2016 Z06 Engine Failure !
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2016 Z06 Engine Failure !
Hello guys and gals, I am new here and I am looking for direction and possible help. My engine failed me Sunday morning. I have a 2016 Z06 that I purchased brand new in October of 2015, which I ordered. Broke it in properly and I DO NOT dog my car out. I don't do burn outs or drag race the car. At the 5500 mile marker, I upgraded the headers w/American Racing long tube headers 2x3x3, Borla Atak exhaust and an AFE Momentum cold air intake. I paid good money to have them installed by a professional and even brought the car back to him after 700 miles, to have everything double checked and made sure nothing came loose. Well I just broke into the 8K mile range and Sunday morning, while coming out of a U-turn and then driving down a hwy at about 40, I heard a metal clanking sound and my dash is telling me engine reducing power. I wasn't quite sure what was going on, but I could not accelerate and I just cruised as far as I could and coasted into a parking lot. Once I got out, I saw oil on the ground and I surely thought that something must have come loose, so I had it towed to the dealer. The next day, Monday, I get a call from the dealership and they tell me there is a hole in the block, so I asked, how does that happen? First response was, well you have this intake and the headers and the exhaust on here and my response was, that just affects the air/fuel to my understanding, nothing on the bottom of the block. So I was told that since it's a $12K engine, that what ever decision would be made, was not on the dealership level, but a corporate tech would have to come in and do a snap shot of the calibration and then a decision on what will be done will be made. Is there anything I can do or should expect? Thanks in advance for any help / advice.
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Le Mans Master
Hello guys and gals, I am new here and I am looking for direction and possible help. My engine failed me Sunday morning. I have a 2016 Z06 that I purchased brand new in October of 2015, which I ordered. Broke it in properly and I DO NOT dog my car out. I don't do burn outs or drag race the car. At the 5500 mile marker, I upgraded the headers w/American Racing long tube headers 2x3x3, Borla Atak exhaust and an AFE Momentum cold air intake. I paid good money to have them installed by a professional and even brought the car back to him after 700 miles, to have everything double checked and made sure nothing came loose. Well I just broke into the 8K mile range and Sunday morning, while coming out of a U-turn and then driving down a hwy at about 40, I heard a metal clanking sound and my dash is telling me engine reducing power. I wasn't quite sure what was going on, but I could not accelerate and I just cruised as far as I could and coasted into a parking lot. Once I got out, I saw oil on the ground and I surely thought that something must have come loose, so I had it towed to the dealer. The next day, Monday, I get a call from the dealership and they tell me there is a hole in the block, so I asked, how does that happen? First response was, well you have this intake and the headers and the exhaust on here and my response was, that just affects the air/fuel to my understanding, nothing on the bottom of the block. So I was told that since it's a $12K engine, that what ever decision would be made, was not on the dealership level, but a corporate tech would have to come in and do a snap shot of the calibration and then a decision on what will be done will be made. Is there anything I can do or should expect? Thanks in advance for any help / advice.
Last edited by robertbruce; 07-02-2016 at 12:23 AM.
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#5
Le Mans Master
I had a 2011 GS that I added an aftermarket air intake system. The check engine light came on so I took it to The Chevrolet dealer I bought it from. He told me I had just voided the warranty and wouldn't touch it. I took it to a local tune shop and they tuned it and the check engine light went away. I have bought three new Corvettes since I had the GS and I leave them bone stock. Maybe you will get lucky and get your engine replaced. I am sure sellers of aftermarket added horsepower goodies will say that I am full of $hit so please tell us how you made out.
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I had a 2011 GS that I added an aftermarket air intake system. The check engine light came on so I took it to The Chevrolet dealer I bought it from. He told me I had just voided the warranty and wouldn't touch it. I took it to a local tune shop and they tuned it and the check engine light went away. I have bought three new Corvettes since I had the GS and I leave them bone stock. Maybe you will get lucky and get your engine replaced. I am sure sellers of aftermarket added horsepower goodies will say that I am full of $hit so please tell us how you made out.
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I'm afraid to say that as soon as you made mods to the engine to improve performance then you have given GM every "get out of jail free card" they need. Doesn't matter how unrelated you think your modifications are, the text of the warranty is explicit in this regard
Still very sad to hear your news and hope you get a good outcome. Hopefully personal relationships with the dealer might help
Mark
Still very sad to hear your news and hope you get a good outcome. Hopefully personal relationships with the dealer might help
Mark
#8
Le Mans Master
I'm afraid to say that as soon as you made mods to the engine to improve performance then you have given GM every "get out of jail free card" they need. Doesn't matter how unrelated you think your modifications are, the text of the warranty is explicit in this regard
Still very sad to hear your news and hope you get a good outcome. Hopefully personal relationships with the dealer might help
Mark
Still very sad to hear your news and hope you get a good outcome. Hopefully personal relationships with the dealer might help
Mark
Unfortunately all car manufacturers now stipulate in their warranty language any add-ons, aftermarket parts or other "mods" voids the powertrain warranty irregardless how unrelated those items may be to the actual failure. Even software modification voids the warranty.
It's not fair but that's their restriction.
The following does help you but may help others. NEVER mod a car until the warranty expires or put it all back to stock BEFORE bringing the car into the dealer.
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other c7 z06s with engine failures
http://gmauthority.com/blog/2014/12/...nly-891-miles/
http://gmauthority.com/blog/2015/06/...-just-6-miles/
gm parts direct wants 9500 for a new engine and 2500 for core charge. are there any alternatives to paying a dealer for a new engine that might fail such as an independent engine builder if it's not covered under warranty?
http://gmauthority.com/blog/2014/12/...nly-891-miles/
http://gmauthority.com/blog/2015/06/...-just-6-miles/
gm parts direct wants 9500 for a new engine and 2500 for core charge. are there any alternatives to paying a dealer for a new engine that might fail such as an independent engine builder if it's not covered under warranty?
Last edited by senah; 07-02-2016 at 02:44 AM.
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Unfortunately all car manufacturers now stipulate in their warranty language any add-ons, aftermarket parts or other "mods" voids the powertrain warranty irregardless how unrelated those items may be to the actual failure. Even software modification voids the warranty.
It's not fair but that's their restriction.
The following does help you but may help others. NEVER mod a car until the warranty expires or put it all back to stock BEFORE bringing the car into the dealer.
#11
Just because the manufacturers put a statement in the warranty doesn't make it legal. Just like valet service putting a statement saying they're not responsible for damage to your car, those are there, but they are not legal. The current law as I understand them means GM must prove that the aftermarket item contributed to the cause of the failure. If this is not true and every manufacturer put that get-out-of-jail card in the warranty, I'm pretty sure SEMA will be all over it.
"Further, under the act, aftermarket equipment that improves performance does not automatically void a vehicle manufacturer's original warranty, unless the warranty clearly states the addition of aftermarket equipment automatically voids your vehicle's warranty, or if it can be proven that the aftermarket device is the direct cause of the failure."
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/conten...ty-intact.html
Last edited by amphora001; 07-02-2016 at 02:39 AM.
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Le Mans Master
Did you have it tuned after the mods? If so, it might have been a bad tune. If not, installing LT headers, usually requires a new tune.
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Hello guys and gals, I am new here and I am looking for direction and possible help. My engine failed me Sunday morning. I have a 2016 Z06 that I purchased brand new in October of 2015, which I ordered. Broke it in properly and I DO NOT dog my car out. I don't do burn outs or drag race the car. At the 5500 mile marker, I upgraded the headers w/American Racing long tube headers 2x3x3, Borla Atak exhaust and an AFE Momentum cold air intake. I paid good money to have them installed by a professional and even brought the car back to him after 700 miles, to have everything double checked and made sure nothing came loose. Well I just broke into the 8K mile range and Sunday morning, while coming out of a U-turn and then driving down a hwy at about 40, I heard a metal clanking sound and my dash is telling me engine reducing power. I wasn't quite sure what was going on, but I could not accelerate and I just cruised as far as I could and coasted into a parking lot. Once I got out, I saw oil on the ground and I surely thought that something must have come loose, so I had it towed to the dealer. The next day, Monday, I get a call from the dealership and they tell me there is a hole in the block, so I asked, how does that happen? First response was, well you have this intake and the headers and the exhaust on here and my response was, that just affects the air/fuel to my understanding, nothing on the bottom of the block. So I was told that since it's a $12K engine, that what ever decision would be made, was not on the dealership level, but a corporate tech would have to come in and do a snap shot of the calibration and then a decision on what will be done will be made. Is there anything I can do or should expect? Thanks in advance for any help / advice.
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Hello guys and gals, I am new here and I am looking for direction and possible help. My engine failed me Sunday morning. I have a 2016 Z06 that I purchased brand new in October of 2015, which I ordered. Broke it in properly and I DO NOT dog my car out. I don't do burn outs or drag race the car. At the 5500 mile marker, I upgraded the headers w/American Racing long tube headers 2x3x3, Borla Atak exhaust and an AFE Momentum cold air intake. I paid good money to have them installed by a professional and even brought the car back to him after 700 miles, to have everything double checked and made sure nothing came loose. Well I just broke into the 8K mile range and Sunday morning, while coming out of a U-turn and then driving down a hwy at about 40, I heard a metal clanking sound and my dash is telling me engine reducing power. I wasn't quite sure what was going on, but I could not accelerate and I just cruised as far as I could and coasted into a parking lot. Once I got out, I saw oil on the ground and I surely thought that something must have come loose, so I had it towed to the dealer. The next day, Monday, I get a call from the dealership and they tell me there is a hole in the block, so I asked, how does that happen? First response was, well you have this intake and the headers and the exhaust on here and my response was, that just affects the air/fuel to my understanding, nothing on the bottom of the block. So I was told that since it's a $12K engine, that what ever decision would be made, was not on the dealership level, but a corporate tech would have to come in and do a snap shot of the calibration and then a decision on what will be done will be made. Is there anything I can do or should expect? Thanks in advance for any help / advice.
The cold air intake will not void the warranty. Long tube headers most likely will and here is why. With any long tubed headers a tune is required. So if the person doing your tune did a poor job i think the dealer is going to tell you the cost is on you. What you could do is if it is determined that the tune was bad you might be able to have the dealer print out the tables. Then go back to the tuner and sue him in small claims court most small claims courts are $5000 max. It is not enough to cover a new engine but it could help.
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Oh well is all I can say, I don't understand why you would take a 650hp car and put pepboys crap on it, so I don't feel bad for you, people do this all the time and I laugh when I see there faces. You take a car that has been tested over and over again and is proven and let some ball bag hack it all up, that's why these cars sell for nothing when traded in!!
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