What I Wish
#41
Le Mans Master
#42
Safety Car
Man, you got that right! I totally agree.
I've had every version of the Vette from the C4 on, and IMO, the C7 stands head and shoulders above all of them in terms of looks, comfort, and performance. Would just like a "choice" between the older traditional "look", (not to mention functionallity) of the center stack vs the new touch screen stuff. That applies to all my cars, not just the C7. For those who like the look and function of a touch pad computer screen there, I'm glad for you. It's just not my cup of tea. But I'll learn to live with it. The other advantages of the car far outweigh this.
Hope I haven't given some of you the wrong impression. I marvel at what can be done with all the new high tech tools available to folks these days. Just being able to share ideas, opinions, photos etc from the comfort of my easy chair by touching a few simple buttons on this iPad is nothing short of amazing. I'm sure I'll eventually come to embrace more of the technology that's showing up in cars these days.
I've had every version of the Vette from the C4 on, and IMO, the C7 stands head and shoulders above all of them in terms of looks, comfort, and performance. Would just like a "choice" between the older traditional "look", (not to mention functionallity) of the center stack vs the new touch screen stuff. That applies to all my cars, not just the C7. For those who like the look and function of a touch pad computer screen there, I'm glad for you. It's just not my cup of tea. But I'll learn to live with it. The other advantages of the car far outweigh this.
Hope I haven't given some of you the wrong impression. I marvel at what can be done with all the new high tech tools available to folks these days. Just being able to share ideas, opinions, photos etc from the comfort of my easy chair by touching a few simple buttons on this iPad is nothing short of amazing. I'm sure I'll eventually come to embrace more of the technology that's showing up in cars these days.
You have a good argument if you say something like "Well to get to function X I have to tap here, do that, change screen and then finally the button is there for me to tap. If I had a button on the face of it I could just hit it". With that I'd agree but that problem is not one of having a touch screen, rather it's one of having poorly designed the UI such that all of those additional actions are first required before you can activate the button. That could be fixed or addressed or changed even with a software update. But physical ****? Well if they didn't put it on the faceplate or within easy reach chances are you're totally stuck with it.
Could the GM engineers have done their UI better. Hell yes! But that's gonna be different for everybody. Yes you can use preference to radically alter the UI but with added preferences comes added complexity.
You do admit however that you enjoy sharing opinions on the internet here with a few simple buttons on the iPad. Now I'm not an iPadder but I've heard it only has one button - the home button. There rest are essentially a touch screen. So why is it you're OK with your iPad but not the touch screen in the car? Seems contradictory to me.
And before you say "Well I'm in the car therefore I don't want additional distractions" remember what I said in my first paragraph - whether it's a physical button or an image of a button, the action of activating it is essentially the same.
#44
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
I'm still struggling to understand what you find so difficult about a touch screen. Seems to me, whether it's a physical button or **** or it's a screen with an image of a button or **** the action of activating it is essentially the same. IOW no more nor less distracting.
You do admit however that you enjoy sharing opinions on the internet here with a few simple buttons on the iPad. Now I'm not an iPadder but I've heard it only has one button - the home button. There rest are essentially a touch screen. So why is it you're OK with your iPad but not the touch screen in the car? Seems contradictory to me.
You do admit however that you enjoy sharing opinions on the internet here with a few simple buttons on the iPad. Now I'm not an iPadder but I've heard it only has one button - the home button. There rest are essentially a touch screen. So why is it you're OK with your iPad but not the touch screen in the car? Seems contradictory to me.
Playing with my iPad, you have no idea how many mistakes I make trying to accomplish some tasks. It's been almost comical at times. But from my easy chair I can try to learn or correct them without harming anyone. I can take my time and try again (or call my techie son for help). Makes no difference if I get distracted there. Like I said, I'm sure I'll get more comfortable with the systems in these cars with practice. Just need to do that from the safety of my driveway.
#45
Burning Brakes
I'm 64, and totally agree with capecodvette....the days of of pulling out the choke on the carb, mashing the gas pedal and turning the key and listening to the crank until it finally caught, backfired and then started to idle are (happily) distant memories....progress is good!
#46
Le Mans Master
And here I thought we were going to have a gunfight.
Some days, at age 74, I wish I didn't have a lawn. But, there are trade offs. I've got a rifle and pistol range in my back yard. And, yes, I do have a shotgun, in fact, two.
#47
Le Mans Master
Squeaky Wheel - how many miles do you have on your C7?
I ask because all the controls are second nature to me - I have 28,000 miles on my car.
If you find it confusing maybe you should play with the system while parked and gain familiarity.
I ask because all the controls are second nature to me - I have 28,000 miles on my car.
If you find it confusing maybe you should play with the system while parked and gain familiarity.
#48
Instructor
I recently just bought my first Vette, and honestly, the infotainment is what tipped the scales from a C6 to a C7. Now, I concur that this type of tech doesn't belong in a restomod '69 but if you're going new, it's a must.
#50
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Hope I've provided some entertainment with this thread, but think I've said enough about this topic. How about we move on to chrome vs black wheels? Bet you can guess which of them I prefer!
#51
Burning Brakes
GM/Chevy has concluded it needs to make the Corvette more appealing to a younger customer base if the car is to survive. Most here would agree with this reality. Thus, the increasing technology featured in our favorite car. This is not a bad thing. Many of such improvements have resulted in higher levels of performance and convenience.
However, as an "old dog" who has a hard time learning new tricks, I also find it difficult to adopt some of the new technology. But the payoffs make it worth the effort. My "need for speed" is better gratified, and I find I enjoy many new features after mastering them. Further, adopting new technology helps Corvette keep up with the competition.
So, Chevy - keep up the good work. Continue to improve the Corvette, but I beg you, don't do it if it means pricing the Vette beyond the reach of its best fans.
However, as an "old dog" who has a hard time learning new tricks, I also find it difficult to adopt some of the new technology. But the payoffs make it worth the effort. My "need for speed" is better gratified, and I find I enjoy many new features after mastering them. Further, adopting new technology helps Corvette keep up with the competition.
So, Chevy - keep up the good work. Continue to improve the Corvette, but I beg you, don't do it if it means pricing the Vette beyond the reach of its best fans.
#52
Le Mans Master
Have only had it for a few months and less than 500 mi's. Traded a 2011 C6 Grand Sport with a similar set up for it. Also have a couple of other late model Chevys with similar touch screens. Really don't use many of the screen features on any of them though. No phone or Gps. Just the radio occasionally, but mostly my iPod. I set one of many long playlists on shuffle before pulling out of the driveway and don't fool with it while driving. Do find the back-up cameras very useful however. As far as the looks, I don't find a smudged touch screen particularly attractive in a car.
Hope I've provided some entertainment with this thread, but think I've said enough about this topic. How about we move on to chrome vs black wheels? Bet you can guess which of them I prefer!
Hope I've provided some entertainment with this thread, but think I've said enough about this topic. How about we move on to chrome vs black wheels? Bet you can guess which of them I prefer!
I split the DD duties between the Ferrari and the C7.
#53
Safety Car
It's because I first have to find the right image, then tap or drag to something else, and if I make a mistake, then try and correct it while attempting to avoid an 18 wheeler or stay between the lines. The focus of my attention has been diverted away from the road.
Plus aesthetically, I just prefer the look of the chrome accented *****. To each his own, eh?
Playing with my iPad, you have no idea how many mistakes I make trying to accomplish some tasks. It's been almost comical at times.
But from my easy chair I can try to learn or correct them without harming anyone. I can take my time and try again (or call my techie son for help). Makes no difference if I get distracted there.
Like I said, I'm sure I'll get more comfortable with the systems in these cars with practice. Just need to do that from the safety of my driveway.
#54
Safety Car
Have only had it for a few months and less than 500 mi's. Traded a 2011 C6 Grand Sport with a similar set up for it. Also have a couple of other late model Chevys with similar touch screens. Really don't use many of the screen features on any of them though. No phone or Gps. Just the radio occasionally, but mostly my iPod.
I set one of many long playlists on shuffle before pulling out of the driveway and don't fool with it while driving. Do find the back-up cameras very useful however. As far as the looks, I don't find a smudged touch screen particularly attractive in a car.
Hope I've provided some entertainment with this thread, but think I've said enough about this topic. How about we move on to chrome vs black wheels? Bet you can guess which of them I prefer!
#55
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
^^^^
Geez defaria. Arguing? Bitching? You really think I'm guilty of that? Thought I explained that I was happy for those who enjoy the new technology and was not trying to disparage them or the car. I truly do love the C7 and enjoy interacting with all of you. Just lamented that a choice was no longer available ala the C6. Are differing opinions not welcome here?
Guess I still have a lot to learn about the use of this social medium. Not quite as user friendly as I thought.
Geez defaria. Arguing? Bitching? You really think I'm guilty of that? Thought I explained that I was happy for those who enjoy the new technology and was not trying to disparage them or the car. I truly do love the C7 and enjoy interacting with all of you. Just lamented that a choice was no longer available ala the C6. Are differing opinions not welcome here?
Guess I still have a lot to learn about the use of this social medium. Not quite as user friendly as I thought.
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Will probably sound like a dinasour, but I wish cars these days (including the C7) could be ordered without all the menu driven stuff, especially the touch screen infotainment/mapping systems. I find them terribly distracting!
I'm ok with digital displays on the dash for traditional stuff like speed, tach, etc, and would even like the ft/rear camera displays to be able to be shown there with the push of a button. But in the center stack give me an old fashion high quality sound system with simple ***** and an iPod input. I know the C6 could be ordered that way. Wish that was still available on the C7.
High tech? Pffht. I'll stick to my old fashioned flip phone, which BTW I leave turned off while I drive. And as for directions, I write them down before leaving the house.
Am I the only one that feels this way?
I'm ok with digital displays on the dash for traditional stuff like speed, tach, etc, and would even like the ft/rear camera displays to be able to be shown there with the push of a button. But in the center stack give me an old fashion high quality sound system with simple ***** and an iPod input. I know the C6 could be ordered that way. Wish that was still available on the C7.
High tech? Pffht. I'll stick to my old fashioned flip phone, which BTW I leave turned off while I drive. And as for directions, I write them down before leaving the house.
Am I the only one that feels this way?
I don't use an I pod but believe you can hook one up in the center counsel???? Some needs to confirm this.
For me I set the favorites......... one touch of the screen just like the buttons of the old days......... and use the selector to the left side of the steering wheel. We use to have 5 or 6 buttons on the old cars........ now we have 6 soft keys on the radio. What's the difference?
#58
Safety Car
Thought I explained that I was happy for those who enjoy the new technology and was not trying to disparage them or the car. I truly do love the C7 and enjoy interacting with all of you. Just lamented that a choice was no longer available ala the C6. Are differing opinions not welcome here?
Guess I still have a lot to learn about the use of this social medium. Not quite as user friendly as I thought.
#59
Safety Car
surprise they are there!!!! There is a volume **** and a station changing **** just like the old days.
I don't use an I pod but believe you can hook one up in the center counsel???? Some needs to confirm this.
For me I set the favorites......... one touch of the screen just like the buttons of the old days......... and use the selector to the left side of the steering wheel. We use to have 5 or 6 buttons on the old cars........ now we have 6 soft keys on the radio. What's the difference?
I don't use an I pod but believe you can hook one up in the center counsel???? Some needs to confirm this.
For me I set the favorites......... one touch of the screen just like the buttons of the old days......... and use the selector to the left side of the steering wheel. We use to have 5 or 6 buttons on the old cars........ now we have 6 soft keys on the radio. What's the difference?
#60
Le Mans Master
Geesh. Why would you think that? The new tire's and fuel injection don't cause any driver distractions. That's the only point I was trying to make. Can you say the same if you drive while trying to navigate some of the menus?
Guess I'm just overly sensitive to some of the crazy stuff I'm seeing happen out on our roads. It's obvious a lot of folks have their minds on things other than driving. Maybe the self driving cars will solve the problem and allow those folks more time to mess with the gadgets.
Guess I'm just overly sensitive to some of the crazy stuff I'm seeing happen out on our roads. It's obvious a lot of folks have their minds on things other than driving. Maybe the self driving cars will solve the problem and allow those folks more time to mess with the gadgets.
It ain't as stupid as texting, but it's pretty close.
That's why they have controls on the steering wheel.