Fellow Vette Owners & Members....Please Help Me!!!
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My attorney (family friend) said that this tactic would do nothing to hasten the buy-back decision... and would only harm me (my credit) in the long run. I took his advise and shelved the "not make payments" idea.
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No sir, i don't expect lawyers to want to work for free, but when i walk into your office or call you and explain my situation and you don't sound optimistic or feel like you can win the case...i just see throwing money at a problem and hoping for the best. I just can't afford those types of fees. i mean two or 3 days at a couple hours a day could cost $5+ grand, and i'd still be no better off than i am now. I'm mean i'm sure i could work something out if a lawyer was like "i understand you were wronged here and i have a good feeling or i'm confident we can resolve this issue" i would try to work out some type of payment plan or have everything covered on the back end after things are settled.
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I may be mistaken but it looks like the OP would take the total loss in a heartbeat.
It looks to me like some kind of problem started when he took the advice of forum members and got a third party involved pursuing diminished value.
Not that it was bad advise, but bad luck that the original shop and the third party had some sort of bad history.
To the point of not wanting to finish the work just sounds strange to me.
Not to mention it also sounds like he alienated everybody that was trying to help him.
Again, I hope that a call to the state insurance commissioner will straighten this out for you OP.
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If this helps any, I once had a new vehcle taken back via the Lemon Law route. During the process of gettng the mfgr to eventually agree to do a buy-back... I intended to stop making payments.
My attorney (family friend) said that this tactic would do nothing to hasten the buy-back decision... and would only harm me (my credit) in the long run. I took his advise and shelved the "not make payments" idea.
My attorney (family friend) said that this tactic would do nothing to hasten the buy-back decision... and would only harm me (my credit) in the long run. I took his advise and shelved the "not make payments" idea.
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OP: I'm not sure what you're seeking from CF members? Advice?
Based on what you've written, it's my humble opinion that you are going to work this out by yourself. GEICO's legal obligation is to pay for repair of your car. Insurance companies usually work hard to find a repair facility that they've worked with in the past that they trust will do professional work. You've explained that several repair facilities don't want the work. There can be any number of reasons why a store owner wouldn't want to take responsibility for your car. Corvettes can be very difficult to repair. But, as you've discovered, you can't make a repair facility repair your car. And, some of this, quite frankly, may be personality driven -- you've alienated them.
Time to start over. If you can't calmly discuss this with the claim adjuster GEICO assigned this matter, put someone else on the phone and let that person -- your wife, perhaps -- work with the adjuster to find a repair facility for you. No one wants to fight with you, but clearly what you've done so far isn't working, and you need to start over or have someone acting for you work this out.
Finally, expecting GEICO to declare your car a total loss is unrealistic. If you take the approach, you're going to paint yourself into a corner.
Based on what you've written, it's my humble opinion that you are going to work this out by yourself. GEICO's legal obligation is to pay for repair of your car. Insurance companies usually work hard to find a repair facility that they've worked with in the past that they trust will do professional work. You've explained that several repair facilities don't want the work. There can be any number of reasons why a store owner wouldn't want to take responsibility for your car. Corvettes can be very difficult to repair. But, as you've discovered, you can't make a repair facility repair your car. And, some of this, quite frankly, may be personality driven -- you've alienated them.
Time to start over. If you can't calmly discuss this with the claim adjuster GEICO assigned this matter, put someone else on the phone and let that person -- your wife, perhaps -- work with the adjuster to find a repair facility for you. No one wants to fight with you, but clearly what you've done so far isn't working, and you need to start over or have someone acting for you work this out.
Finally, expecting GEICO to declare your car a total loss is unrealistic. If you take the approach, you're going to paint yourself into a corner.
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I may be mistaken but it looks like the OP would take the total loss in a heartbeat.
It looks to me like some kind of problem started when he took the advice of forum members and got a third party involved pursuing diminished value.
Not that it was bad advise, but bad luck that the original shop and the third party had some sort of bad history.
To the point of not wanting to finish the work just sounds strange to me.
Not to mention it also sounds like he alienated everybody that was trying to help him.
Again, I hope that a call to the state insurance commissioner will straighten this out for you OP.
At this point you are right, i would take a total loss. I mean would you want to have this vehicle at this point, even if its your dream car...with all the damage the car has had and risk of future problems moving forward? Would you want to continue to pay for a car thats not valued anywhere near the amount you are paying for it? and one that no one else wants quite frankly?
I got a third party involved because that is my right. Its my right to have a 3rd party look at the car, and my right to go after diminished value. It also seems like breach of contract on behalf of the dealership with regards to stoping work on my car mid repair because of an issue with another individual, sounds like discrimination of my legal rights. I agree that it is strange and i've never heard of any of this.
I'm not sure how i'm alienating anyone or have alienated anyone. i've done everything and accepted every thing that has happened to the best of my ability and have only tried to help the process along, but at some point enough is enough. Everything that could have possibly went wrong with this has, and i don't see any of it being my fault. I mean how was i suppose to know there was a history between the first body shop and the 3rd party? The body shop allowed him into their shop to take the pics of my car. if there was any issue don't you think they would have stopped him from entering their business or called me the day this happened and now wait 3-4 days later?
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No sir, i don't expect lawyers to want to work for free, but when i walk into your office or call you and explain my situation and you don't sound optimistic or feel like you can win the case...i just see throwing money at a problem and hoping for the best. I just can't afford those types of fees. i mean two or 3 days at a couple hours a day could cost $5+ grand, and i'd still be no better off than i am now. I'm mean i'm sure i could work something out if a lawyer was like "i understand you were wronged here and i have a good feeling or i'm confident we can resolve this issue" i would try to work out some type of payment plan or have everything covered on the back end after things are settled.
Again, good luck!
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From my perspective, State Farm should pay, at a minimum, the amount of the initial estimate to Geico. Geico should pay OP for the total loss on his corvette. Geico can choose whether to pursue compensation from dealer #3 and towing company. If OP has a shortfall between what he owes on the car loan and the amount he gets from Geico for the total loss, he can decide if he wants to pursue payment for this difference from State Farm. (It was their insured who was the initial cause for this loss) Not diminished value, but similar to the extent that it represents a loss to OP that was caused by action initiated by State Farm's insured.
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Contact the Better Business Bureau and your State's Attorney General Office. Might not hurt to contact your local TV News channel. But first, sit down in person with your insurance carrier's representative and discuss where we go from here. Stay cool and calm, there are contractual obligations that need to be satisfied under the law. Document everything.
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Usually when a car is a total loss, they research the values of other cars that are exactly alike or very close to what you had using mileage and condition and age of the car. That should come out to FMV....good luck!
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Lance, the mistake you made and this goes for everyone reading this thread. You went to a Chevy store for body work! I used to do this also but quickly learned how incompetent some dealers services are. In the future take any car you own to a place that just repairs collision damage. Call your local Mercedes, Lexus, and BMW dealers and ask them where they Send there body damaged cars to. These higher end body shops have people of much higher skill levels because that's all they do and there lively hood depends solely on the quality of work they put out and word of mouth.
#32
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[QUOTE=lpabsolute;1592970508]When StateFarm started dragging there feet at the beginning thats why i went with my insurance Geico. So basically from what i understand Geico handles the case then goes after StateFarm once everything is over and done with. I agree that now StateFarm is only responsible for the original damages and now the car being wet and moved around from place to place.[/QUOTE
Find out which Insurance Company will handling the total loss settlement of your car. Sounds like you have no fault in this accident so you should be able to go thru Geico or wait for State Farm to get back to you for settlement. But you should be able to decide which company you want to handle your claim. If you go thru Geico, you would be responsible for your collision deduction; otherwise, if you can go thru State Farm, you wouldn't pay a deductible.
Find out which Insurance Company will handling the total loss settlement of your car. Sounds like you have no fault in this accident so you should be able to go thru Geico or wait for State Farm to get back to you for settlement. But you should be able to decide which company you want to handle your claim. If you go thru Geico, you would be responsible for your collision deduction; otherwise, if you can go thru State Farm, you wouldn't pay a deductible.
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If this helps any, I once had a new vehcle taken back via the Lemon Law route. During the process of gettng the mfgr to eventually agree to do a buy-back... I intended to stop making payments.
My attorney (family friend) said that this tactic would do nothing to hasten the buy-back decision... and would only harm me (my credit) in the long run. I took his advise and shelved the "not make payments" idea.
My attorney (family friend) said that this tactic would do nothing to hasten the buy-back decision... and would only harm me (my credit) in the long run. I took his advise and shelved the "not make payments" idea.
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Find out which Insurance Company will handling the total loss settlement of your car. Sounds like you have no fault in this accident so you should be able to go thru Geico or wait for State Farm to get back to you for settlement. But you should be able to decide which company you want to handle your claim. If you go thru Geico, you would be responsible for your collision deduction; otherwise, if you can go thru State Farm, you wouldn't pay a deductible.
Edit: OP, I see you're in Charleston, which is a pretty big city. Most large city TV stations have some kind of consumer help segment where they do a story about someone being wronged, which in a lot of cases gets the problem solved very quickly. Call the local TV stations and see if they have something like this and would be interested in doing a story about your problems. No dealer or insurance company wants to be on the TV news for poor service and screwing a customer.
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I'm not sure if I have all the info and have it correctly but I don't understand why you would need a lawyer at all??? If Geico says that can't find a shop to repair, my question to you would be...have they totaled your car (yet)? If so, just settle with them at this point, take whatever they owe you (if you're not "upside down" and go buy yourself another vette. Now might a GOOD time to buy a Grand Sport model if you like it and can afford it. I'm not insinuating that you can't afford it but everyone has a budget.
Again, good luck!
Again, good luck!
I need a lawyer to take my case to get someone to pay my car loan off. At this point Geico is not willing to total my car. they are saying its too expensive for them to total with the damages is has. they seem to think they can fix for car for $12K, not including the water issues which they don't seem to think the car has since they went a day later to see if the car was wet and said it was dry. They are telling me i need to find a shop to repair the car,
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I sure don't see an "over reaction" on OPs part as one responder stated. I would be livid!
I've got to believe that if you were hit hard enough to do frame damage you must have suffered some whiplash or back trauma. Hopefully you have not signed any medical release forms yet. Lawyers will salivate at an opportunity for a personal injury claim. I'm betting this would also hasten an offer to total your car. Get to a doctor.
I've got to believe that if you were hit hard enough to do frame damage you must have suffered some whiplash or back trauma. Hopefully you have not signed any medical release forms yet. Lawyers will salivate at an opportunity for a personal injury claim. I'm betting this would also hasten an offer to total your car. Get to a doctor.
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Sir, i took the car to my local Chevy dealership because they had a licensed Chevy body shop with licensed corvette techs. I mean this being a new car only two months old with warranty, i figured that this would be the perfect place to have it fixed. I would never send the car to a "Fender Bender" or mom and pops repair shop, no offense to any of them, but i feel like a licensed corvette tech should be working on my car. I even reached out to a corvette speciality body shop in my area but Geico no longer uses them because they only want to pay someone $45 an hour to work on my car where the speciality shop charges $100-130 an hour. Plus the specialty shop does't have the capability to fix the aluminum frame or even have time to work on the car as they so backed up with other repairs.
Example, this guy is in your area and has THREE shops and has an average rating 4.5 out five stars.
https://www.carwise.com/auto-body-sh...c-29414/540961
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I sure don't see an "over reaction" on OPs part as one responder stated. I would be livid!
I've got to believe that if you were hit hard enough to do frame damage you must have suffered some whiplash or back trauma. Hopefully you have not signed any medical release forms yet. Lawyers will salivate at an opportunity for a personal injury claim. I'm betting this would also hasten an offer to total your car. Get to a doctor.
I've got to believe that if you were hit hard enough to do frame damage you must have suffered some whiplash or back trauma. Hopefully you have not signed any medical release forms yet. Lawyers will salivate at an opportunity for a personal injury claim. I'm betting this would also hasten an offer to total your car. Get to a doctor.
I have not settled any type of personal injury claim yet. I did see a doctor and was diagnosed with whiplash.
Thank you for your time.
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That's one reason why insurance companies sell "Gap" insurance...to pay off any difference that may exist if you owe more money than the car is worth should it be totaled in a car accident, such as yours was. I hope you purchased this additional insurance out when you listed your car with Geico.
Good luck and I sincerely mean that...
Good luck and I sincerely mean that...
And that is exactly how I purchased it with my new C7.
While there may be other ways to get it, this is what I was told and how I did it.
I sure don't see an "over reaction" on OPs part as one responder stated. I would be livid!
I've got to believe that if you were hit hard enough to do frame damage you must have suffered some whiplash or back trauma. Hopefully you have not signed any medical release forms yet. Lawyers will salivate at an opportunity for a personal injury claim. I'm betting this would also hasten an offer to total your car. Get to a doctor.
I've got to believe that if you were hit hard enough to do frame damage you must have suffered some whiplash or back trauma. Hopefully you have not signed any medical release forms yet. Lawyers will salivate at an opportunity for a personal injury claim. I'm betting this would also hasten an offer to total your car. Get to a doctor.
Unfortunately it's probably irrelevant at this stage, because somehow, even though OP hasn't had any dealings with State Farm. I would be willing to bet they have managed to get a medical release under his palm, or recorded verbal release from him. It is the first thing insurance adjusters do. Take advantage of you distracted state of mind to release them from the real monetary obligations.
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This is where your thinking is flawed. If you start to go blind do you go to an internist? No you go to an eye Dr. Same goes for jack of all trades Dealers and shops that only specialize in auto body and frame restoration. A private body shop will also have better equipment to handle more complex repairs. No one said to take it to some "Mom&Pop" shop you take it to a large busy and reputable body shop that services high end vehicles.
Example, this guy is in your area and has THREE shops and has an average rating 4.5 out five stars.
https://www.carwise.com/auto-body-sh...c-29414/540961
Example, this guy is in your area and has THREE shops and has an average rating 4.5 out five stars.
https://www.carwise.com/auto-body-sh...c-29414/540961