The General should be ashamed!
09-28-2016, 07:07 PM
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09-28-2016, 07:15 PM
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09-28-2016, 07:18 PM
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09-29-2016, 12:06 AM
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Reflection tells the story.
09-29-2016, 01:09 AM
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People are talking about 2 different things here.
Orange peel has been a common issue on Corvettes for years, and hopefully the new paint shop will resolve that.
However, the new lightweight panels, particularly front fenders and doors on C7s also suffer from waviness. Hopefully, they are working that issue as well, because the best custom paint job or paint correction on the planet will still look wavy if the panel naked panel underneath is not uniform.
Orange peel has been a common issue on Corvettes for years, and hopefully the new paint shop will resolve that.
However, the new lightweight panels, particularly front fenders and doors on C7s also suffer from waviness. Hopefully, they are working that issue as well, because the best custom paint job or paint correction on the planet will still look wavy if the panel naked panel underneath is not uniform.
They look like glass plenty of members have some pretty nice looking paint. The orange peel is in the clear coat.
My car was repainted and it is much better than most of what GM does with out the paint correction(wet sanding).
09-29-2016, 01:13 AM
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Hopefully the paint quality will significantly improve.
09-29-2016, 02:21 AM
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"There is a fellow in town who paints custom cars. He can make the car look like glass. However be prepared to pay ~$15,000!!" JerryU
I would've expected it to be more since some custom paint shops used to charge in the $10K range many years ago. Then again, tech has gotten better. But painting is still about ability and "art."
I would've expected it to be more since some custom paint shops used to charge in the $10K range many years ago. Then again, tech has gotten better. But painting is still about ability and "art."
Assume for a Vette they would start with an epoxy primer and wet sand to a mirror finish to get perfectly flat panels. Perhaps several coats and sanding efforts. That is what the shop that painted my street rod did. That could add to the cost.
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09-30-2016, 09:44 AM
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I wouldn't want to repaint a new car, but blocking the doors might be an option.
09-30-2016, 10:05 AM
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Maybe you better look a Corvette's that have had "paint correction"
They look like glass plenty of members have some pretty nice looking paint. The orange peel is in the clear coat.
My car was repainted and it is much better than most of what GM does with out the paint correction(wet sanding).
They look like glass plenty of members have some pretty nice looking paint. The orange peel is in the clear coat.
My car was repainted and it is much better than most of what GM does with out the paint correction(wet sanding).
However, the panels underneath, particularly doors and front fenders have a little waviness. To correct that would require stripping all the paint and block sanding it smooth, followed by a repaint, wet-sand and polish.
You were correct that a paint correction can work wonders on the paint, as it did on mine. I suspect there may be some variation in panel waviness due to the manufacturing process and the complex shapes on those panels. Some cars are better than others. Most significantly, on light-colored cars, panel waviness is pretty hard to detect. On black under fluorescent lights, it's very noticeable. However, it's not worth the minimum of $15K it would require to strip the car down and have all the panels completely smoothed out.
I think my car looks fantastic, and I'm happy with it even with the insignificant "warts" that a meticulous car judge would easily spot. I no longer see the panel waviness, except when I'm cleaning the surface and examining backlit panels under harsh lighting. The average person would never see it.
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09-30-2016, 10:32 AM
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Paint problems
I have just purchased my first "new" car ever a 17 z06. While it is disappointing that I expect the paint quality to be far better on my wife's car of less than half the value ( 2010 Audi) I am just preparing to do the paint correction myself. The car will arrive at the dealership in late November early December so I will have 5 months to make even more pretty!
09-30-2016, 01:22 PM
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09-30-2016, 01:27 PM
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09-30-2016, 01:34 PM
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09-30-2016, 02:32 PM
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Here's my suggestion......... I took this attitude several years ago after being a fanatic and wasting money and time as a waxer..........
IF ya got to squint its not there!!!! Drive it and enjoy it!
IF ya got to squint its not there!!!! Drive it and enjoy it!
09-30-2016, 03:01 PM
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People are talking about 2 different things here.
Orange peel has been a common issue on Corvettes for years, and hopefully the new paint shop will resolve that.
However, the new lightweight panels, particularly front fenders and doors on C7s also suffer from waviness. Hopefully, they are working that issue as well, because the best custom paint job or paint correction on the planet will still look wavy if the panel naked panel underneath is not uniform.
Orange peel has been a common issue on Corvettes for years, and hopefully the new paint shop will resolve that.
However, the new lightweight panels, particularly front fenders and doors on C7s also suffer from waviness. Hopefully, they are working that issue as well, because the best custom paint job or paint correction on the planet will still look wavy if the panel naked panel underneath is not uniform.
I have both orange peel and the doors and upper part of the front fenders behind the vents look like unprepped VFN fiberglass panels. You have to look down the side of the car to see it, most people wont notice in the sun or from the side.
I dont really pay much attention to the paint anymore but I was talking to a guy in a grocery store parking loy with a 50th anniversary C5 he parked next to mine (mint with 14K miles) and it made my paint/body panels look pretty bad.
But I'll still take the C7, luckily I dont see the really bad parts when I'm driving it. But certainly GM could do better.
09-30-2016, 04:55 PM
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It's essentially unavoidable w/ water based paints, and the only way to get rid of it is a wet-sand or paint correction in some cases. The really high-end cars get this, but, of course, you're paying dearly for it.
Having said that, the finish quality out of Bowling Green is a bit below average.
09-30-2016, 06:31 PM
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I read that the new Acura NSX paint takes 120 hours of work to get a flawless finish. I think the msrp is around $160k.
09-30-2016, 07:17 PM
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The paint on my daughter's $17k Mexican built Golf is better than my C7. Kinda sad but I still love it.