davepl

Not me, but someone in the household lost BOTH sets of keys to their 2015 GM.

I know if you lose one you need the other to reprogram or bond them to the car. But I have no idea what the protocol is if you lose both.

Is he looking at getting the car towed in, new keys ordered, and bonded to the car with the Tech2? Or is there a way that doesn't require having the vehicle towed to the dealership?

Thanks,
Dave

Kent1999

If no fobs are available, there is a "long" programming method available to wipe out the records of any old fobs and setup brand new fobs. On the C6, this method took over 30 minutes, and can be performed at home (as long as your car is not a Canadian market car -- those have to go to the dealer). I assume the process is similar for C7.

EDITED TO ADD: You *do* need a metal key to initiate the process. If the metal key is also missing, any GM dealer can cut a new metal key using the car's VIN and proof of ownership.

davepl

Thanks! Based on what you've said and what I've read elsewhere, sounds like you go to the dealership with proof of ownership, get two physical keys cut, and then you do the "long programming" steps that takes about 30 minutes per key.

owc6

This is providing your dealership has the fancy expen$ive new machine to laser cut the keys. If they don't, they can order an already cut key from GM.

themonk

then you're an idiot and don't deserve to drive a car.

Kent1999

1) It doesn't hurt to have two metal keys (good idea to have a spare), but technically, you only need 1 metal key to start the programming process.

2) Once you have 1 fob programmed with the "long" programming method, all subsequent fobs can be programmed with the 5 minute "short" method.

vbdenny

Try losing 1 key first and after you pay for that, you'll never lose another. Much cheaper than losing both.

pickleseimer

Yeah, I was a bit of an idiot the day before I took delivery of my 2015.

It's Tuesday, Nov 25, 2014. I ordered a car with a forum dealer the prior month. Was quietly watching the order progress online and eventually the car is built on Nov 17 and it is proceeding through the shipping process. On the afternoon of the 25th my salesman calls me and says the car is at the dealer! Well the dealer is 200 miles away but I just had to go see it. Salesman puts the car in the Vette showroom and keeps the shipping cover on the car until I get there and we unwrap it together. Everybody's feeling good now and the salesman hands me the keys that came with it so I can start it and hear it idle etc. We're all smiling when we go back to the salesman's office and chat a few minutes, I pay for the car and ask when he can have it ready for delivery, and he says the next day (the day after that is Thanksgiving). Great! I'll be back in the late morning with my wife as she's been waiting too. I leave the dealership as they are about to close and drive the 200 miles back home.

I'm at home about ready to go to bed around midnight and start emptying my pockets. Yep, I had the keys to the Vette in my pocket, both of them, tied together with a black tie-rap, just like they are handed to the dealer when the transport guy takes the car off the truck. It's a real 'Oh-$hit!' moment. So I'm thinking okay, they must have a way to program another fob so the PDI team can move the car and get it prepped. I email the salesman right away telling him I walked out with the keys. I get up about 6 am and he has already emailed me back at 5 am and says that's a problem.

Okay, the wife and I get an early start and we're at the dealer at 9:30. The guys who cleans the car up from the delivery had just finished the car, doing it in exactly the same place I left it the prior evening. Feeling significantly sheepish, I handed over the keys, they took it back to the service dept to do their thing, and I was on my way home with it by noon. Can laugh now when I think about it.

Allpro

I might be wrong but if you lose your key fob or both, you can call On Star to do a remote start avoiding a tow to the dealer.

Boiler_81

OnStar could remote start but you will not be able to drive it without the fob. The process requires you press the start button with the fob in the car in order to engage the transmission.

eboggs_jkvl

Here is a link to the "Long Program". It also has hints with it to make sure you get it correct the first time.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-g...s-and-rke.html


Elmer

owc6

pickleseimer, thanks for the laugh. Yours is one sale that they will remember.

2K14C7

Plus, when you touch the brake pedal, the engine will die.

davepl

Where's the Helpful button? I want to click it!

JDM111er

That's a little harsh. Accidents do happen. And something similar will most likely happen to you at some point in your life.

TyBoo

Idiots have as much a right to drive as ******** have a right to be on public forums.

themonk

Tell me, what kind of responsible adult loses both sets of keys, wait, not a key it's a 2" X 1" key fob? Yeah accidents happen but most are totally preventable if you have half a brain. I've been sporting the same key fob for the last 3 years, I have my second in a safe place where I know exactly where it is. Part of the problem with society is that it's one big hug fest, people don't take time to think and others embrace that. I may be an ahole for telling it like it is but at least I don't lose my both my key fobs.

davepl

No responsible adult. It's a 16-year-old kid. Which is why I'm making it into a lesson.

When he lost the first key, he should have stepped up, paid the money, got it replaced. But he didn't. I just watched.

Then 6 months later he lost the second key. Now he's hooped.

I could parachute in and fix the problem, but I'm not. But I do want to know what the solution is.

I'm leaving it up to him to get a ride/take the bus to buy two new keys and go through the programming steps. But I wanted to know what those were.

Sorry it offended you. It's parenting, I'm doing my best. If you have other helpful advice, share it.

I'd like a private enumeration of any mistakes you made at 16 so we can review them and lend our criticisms. Yeah, you've got all the answers now. But how'd you learn them? That's why I'm doing this.

JDM111er

I like the way your handling it. Making the kid learn to fix the problem he created. Good for you

TyBoo

You are doing it very well.

As soon as I saw the thread title I pictured a teenager! Having raised some myself I have a very real understanding of the struggles.