fugly1

Oops. I thought this was a vette forum. Must have clicked the wrong button.

T_B

Sorry but maybe you had trouble comprehending my post. The guy asked for a car that has the same power as the Vette AND the gadgets that the OP wanted, as if no such thing existed. I pointed out the fact that not only do they exist, even Chevrolet has one in their lineup(same numbers as the Stingray and even feels peppier) ... so no need to act like the corvette is in some elite league of its own. All you are doing is paying extra for a more "exclusive" styling.

My Camaro was just as powerful, if not moreso than my Vette. It also had lane change indicators, rear sensors, side mirror defrosters .. etc. All for a car that costed almost $20k less. OH and it handled far better too.

Also, the new ZL1 would eat up most Corvettes that are in the same price range ... ALL DAY. "higher level of engineering" lol, get real.

Kent1999

You had me going there for a while, right up until your stuff about a Camaro "handling far better" and having more power (despite the same engine), and that the Corvette's main advantage over the Camaro was "exclusive" styling... good one! LOL

T_B

Oh i said the Camaro has more power? cool thanks. Also lol at you for thinking the same motor means means both cars must put down identical numbers. What are you 12? Anyway, MY Camaro was definitely stronger than my Vette, put up better numbers at the strip and better 0-60 times on a regular basis.

Also, yes far better handling(6th gen Camaro SS). I've owned both cars, and anyone that has driven both will tell you the same thing. Also, the car sounds better, has stock tri-y headers(which the vette doesnt have), better cooling system etc. I can without a doubt say that the 6th gen 2ss is without a doubt a better car than the base/z51 Stingrays. And it costs much less.



LIke i said, all you are doing is paying for the "exclusive" styling.

Kent1999

T_B: "My Camaro was just as powerful, if not moreso than my Vette"

Perhaps you've heard of the SAE ratings for engines? Yeah, it pretty much says that if GM says the LT1 is at 455 HP for Corvettes and 455HP for Camaros, then, yeah, that's exactly what it means, even to us 12 year olds.

Camaro -- same HP but literally hundreds of pounds more weight than the Corvette, and you got better strip times with the Camaro? Perhaps it wasn't the car?


I have yet to read any objective test between the two cars that favors the Camaro SS handling over the Corvette Z51, but I suppose there may be someone somewhere that thinks it is so... but I certainly believe that you think it is so.

So when are you trading your C7 back for a Camaro?

TyBoo

Oh yeah?!? If the Camaro is so much better then why did they have to copy the Corvette tail lights?


That's my 12yo contribution to this thread.

FLATJ

Soon enough your choices will be self-driving cars or public transportation. Enjoy yourselves while it's still legal! If you want doodads, buy doodads!

sTz

Completely happy w/my Z. A few additional creature comfronts and safety features would be nice, but certainly not complaining, however, those who do is equivalent to insulting a family member on this forum, which is entertaining

T_B

You think i was talking about what the HP ratings for the cars are? Must have completely flown over your head. What i was clearly implying is that a car that has the SAME(5hp difference on paper) ENGINE AND HP/TQ puts up better numbers. You think i dont know what the HP numbers/ratings are for each car when i said i've owned both? So you're saying if we dyno a few Stingrays right now, they are all going to give you the same exact numbers? Yeah, im not even going to bother anymore.

And just for the heck of it, here's some food for thought ...

http://jalopnik.com/holy-****-dyno-t...-po-1747436409

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...-the-corvette/

sharpseadog

The only really important safety item is the blind spot monitors. They are desperately needed on the verts. Adaptive cruise control would also be really nice. My 2015 lacks the nose camera and I would have liked to have that. I'm not keen on the after market nose cameras, but I would probably spring for after market replacement mirrors with built in blind spot monitors if they were available. Does anyone know of if they Are? 🦁

jcthorne

No, these are features that add weight to a sports car. This is counter to its design goal.

ZMan64

Agree. I recently came over to the Corvette community after owning two gen 2 CTS-V's (coupe & sedan), and while they certainly are very different from vettes I still can think of no valid reason for not incorporating some of the their standard features on the C7. The weight savings argument carries only so much weight (no pun intended) too, as many of the safety options don't add much to the overall weight, and would have minimal/no noticeable effect on performance. Really, these are not "cheap" vehicles, and like has already been said, GM needs to keep up with other makers or risk losing customers. Just my .02

Trash

The sensors don't have to be visible. Mercedes blind spot radar is completely invisible. Just food for thought.

themonk

Blind spot indicators, the only one I wouldn't mind seeing, everything else, including this one actually, a good driver can do without.

LoganExplosion

Power folding mirrors are stupid.
Blind spot indicators are gimmicky as hell. Use your eyes
Adaptive cruise control - yeah, lets make radar detectors pointless.
Automatic braking? That's what you're there for!
Home depot has some great carpet! haha

Did you not look at the car before you purchased it?? Do your research.
I have many gripes with the car. It being unsafe, isn't one of them.