DSC Sport Magnetic Shock controller observations
#482
Team Owner
#483
Le Mans Master
I was just curious about how the DSC controller may change the approach of tuning the springs and stabilizer bars. I don't plan on changing any components. If I change anything, it will just be uploading different settings.
#484
Le Mans Master
I have a Z51 and loaded the Tour Plush settings. I notice a little float with the setting. It takes longer to settle now than it did with the stock controller when I go over a big undulation. I haven't tried the "stock" setting for the DSC controller. I may try it once Wi-Fi is enabled just to check it out.
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Dif (03-26-2017)
#485
Melting Slicks
I have a Z51 and loaded the Tour Plush settings. I notice a little float with the setting. It takes longer to settle now than it did with the stock controller when I go over a big undulation. I haven't tried the "stock" setting for the DSC controller. I may try it once Wi-Fi is enabled just to check it out.
#486
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I have a Z51 and loaded the Tour Plush settings. I notice a little float with the setting. It takes longer to settle now than it did with the stock controller when I go over a big undulation. I haven't tried the "stock" setting for the DSC controller. I may try it once Wi-Fi is enabled just to check it out.
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If I'm cruising on the freeway (with the flow of traffic) or following a long line of cars I have my car in Tour mode. Once I get a chance to pass and the road has opened up in front of me I put the car in Sport mode. The float is definitely not there in Sport mode. My comment about the float was more of an observation, not a complaint. If it is true that that the Z51 with MSRC actually has the softest springs (even softer than base) it would make sense that I get more float than a GS/Z06 using the Plush file (or would it?). I'll probably try the standard file some time in the future when I have time to do a good comparison. If I notice a harsher ride in Tour mode I'd probably go back to the Plush file. The car definitely feels more "planted" with the DSC controller in Sport mode than it did with the OEM controller.
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I installed Tour Plush afterwards, and it's Noticeably softer.
If you install the DSC OEM Tour file, you will notice it is "slightly" stiffer and does not float as much, but it is not Harsh by any means.
Still a noticeable improvement in ride over the GM OEM Controller setup.
I agree with your comments, .. with Tour Plush passing over a short quick rise and drop in the road, the suspension will go up and down, then settle.
I only notice it at Highway speeds when it's nice to have a comfortable ride.
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RKCRLR (03-26-2017)
#489
Melting Slicks
I have a Z51 and loaded the Tour Plush settings. I notice a little float with the setting. It takes longer to settle now than it did with the stock controller when I go over a big undulation. I haven't tried the "stock" setting for the DSC controller. I may try it once Wi-Fi is enabled just to check it out.
I'm going to try the non-plush tour that originally came loaded on the DSC controller for comparison purposes. In sport mode, the car feels awesome - it rides better and is a more comfortable setting for daily driving than the OEM tour mode was. As many had suggested, I left the USB cable plugged in just so I could update/change settings.
#490
Former Vendor
My DSC Controller did Not have Tour Plush when I ordered it.
I installed Tour Plush afterwards, and it's Noticeably softer.
If you install the DSC OEM Tour file, you will notice it is "slightly" stiffer and does not float as much, but it is not Harsh by any means.
Still a noticeable improvement in ride over the GM OEM Controller setup.
I agree with your comments, .. with Tour Plush passing over a short quick rise and drop in the road, the suspension will go up and down, then settle.
I only notice it at Highway speeds when it's nice to have a comfortable ride.
I installed Tour Plush afterwards, and it's Noticeably softer.
If you install the DSC OEM Tour file, you will notice it is "slightly" stiffer and does not float as much, but it is not Harsh by any means.
Still a noticeable improvement in ride over the GM OEM Controller setup.
I agree with your comments, .. with Tour Plush passing over a short quick rise and drop in the road, the suspension will go up and down, then settle.
I only notice it at Highway speeds when it's nice to have a comfortable ride.
that will eliminate that feeling try it
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Dif (03-26-2017)
#491
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LA freeways
I have not experienced this float (or floating) that others recently have talked about in Touring mode. I experienced my Z51 maintains a higher attitude than previously when the road is uneven or undulating. I rate that as improvement over stock.
DSC Sport controller gave improved ride on LA freeways, which are so washboard and bumpy. It was noticible making the ride bearable for the first time ever. It solves the problem of shock response time on hard and complex uneven road surfaces. And response when accelerating in Touring feels like Sport at the outset
I drove mountain roads CA 74, 18, 38 all of which are demanding on suspension during high speed turning, with very positive results.
On mountain roads she was a tiger in Sport, with the most noticeable improvement coming out of a turn when applying throttle. She stood up and excellerated right now. Breaking going into turns gave me a more confident feel just before downshifting.
I verify the DSC sport is a significant improvement on mountain roads at high speed and on CA freeways.
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DSC Sport controller gave improved ride on LA freeways, which are so washboard and bumpy. It was noticible making the ride bearable for the first time ever. It solves the problem of shock response time on hard and complex uneven road surfaces. And response when accelerating in Touring feels like Sport at the outset
I drove mountain roads CA 74, 18, 38 all of which are demanding on suspension during high speed turning, with very positive results.
On mountain roads she was a tiger in Sport, with the most noticeable improvement coming out of a turn when applying throttle. She stood up and excellerated right now. Breaking going into turns gave me a more confident feel just before downshifting.
I verify the DSC sport is a significant improvement on mountain roads at high speed and on CA freeways.
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Foosh (03-27-2017)
#492
Bunk,
I suspect you're using the standard pre-loaded DSC settings, which I agree are great. The "floaty" behavior referred to here is from those who have loaded "Tour Plush," as a result of customer demand.
Even the standard Tour DSC settings provide a much better ride than OEM Tour.
I suspect you're using the standard pre-loaded DSC settings, which I agree are great. The "floaty" behavior referred to here is from those who have loaded "Tour Plush," as a result of customer demand.
Even the standard Tour DSC settings provide a much better ride than OEM Tour.
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In and effort to try and Clarify, this might be redundant so bare with me.
IMO the car is not constantly Floating down the road, and not sure if Float is the word to use.
Tour Plush is a Very, Very, smooth ride, but still planted and controlled cruising along, especially going over a stretch of really rough road.
Aside from the "even" Softer ride with Tour Plush, here's what I notice Tour Plush does that the OEM DSC Tour does not.
When going over a short but gradual Smooth Hump in the road at speed and the car comes down off the hump, the body will Noticeably sink down and rise up, then stabilize.
It does not keep bouncing/floating up and down like it has bad shocks
Tour Plush may not be for everyone.
IMO it's a true Tour setting and I like it the way it is.
As I mentioned in another post, with aggressive throttle and smooth sweeping turns or a 360 degree exit ramp, the car stays planted to the road and pushes straight through.
Under sharp quick repetitive maneuvers it might be too soft.
If, it was the only ride/handling setting, then I would want something tighter.
But with Sport and Track to choose from, I personally don't want to tighten up the Tour Plush settings.
At least not at this time
IMO the car is not constantly Floating down the road, and not sure if Float is the word to use.
Tour Plush is a Very, Very, smooth ride, but still planted and controlled cruising along, especially going over a stretch of really rough road.
Aside from the "even" Softer ride with Tour Plush, here's what I notice Tour Plush does that the OEM DSC Tour does not.
When going over a short but gradual Smooth Hump in the road at speed and the car comes down off the hump, the body will Noticeably sink down and rise up, then stabilize.
It does not keep bouncing/floating up and down like it has bad shocks
Tour Plush may not be for everyone.
IMO it's a true Tour setting and I like it the way it is.
As I mentioned in another post, with aggressive throttle and smooth sweeping turns or a 360 degree exit ramp, the car stays planted to the road and pushes straight through.
Under sharp quick repetitive maneuvers it might be too soft.
If, it was the only ride/handling setting, then I would want something tighter.
But with Sport and Track to choose from, I personally don't want to tighten up the Tour Plush settings.
At least not at this time
#494
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In and effort to try and Clarify, this might be redundant so bare with me.
IMO the car is not constantly Floating down the road, and not sure if Float is the word to use.
Tour Plush is a Very, Very, smooth ride, but still planted and controlled cruising along, especially going over a stretch of really rough road.
Aside from the "even" Softer ride with Tour Plush, here's what I notice Tour Plush does that the OEM DSC Tour does not.
When going over a short but gradual Smooth Hump in the road at speed and the car comes down off the hump, the body will Noticeably sink down and rise up, then stabilize.
It does not keep bouncing/floating up and down like it has bad shocks
Tour Plush may not be for everyone.
IMO it's a true Tour setting and I like it the way it is.
As I mentioned in another post, with aggressive throttle and smooth sweeping turns or a 360 degree exit ramp, the car stays planted to the road and pushes straight through.
Under sharp quick repetitive maneuvers it might be too soft.
If, it was the only ride/handling setting, then I would want something tighter.
But with Sport and Track to choose from, I personally don't want to tighten up the Tour Plush settings.
At least not at this time
IMO the car is not constantly Floating down the road, and not sure if Float is the word to use.
Tour Plush is a Very, Very, smooth ride, but still planted and controlled cruising along, especially going over a stretch of really rough road.
Aside from the "even" Softer ride with Tour Plush, here's what I notice Tour Plush does that the OEM DSC Tour does not.
When going over a short but gradual Smooth Hump in the road at speed and the car comes down off the hump, the body will Noticeably sink down and rise up, then stabilize.
It does not keep bouncing/floating up and down like it has bad shocks
Tour Plush may not be for everyone.
IMO it's a true Tour setting and I like it the way it is.
As I mentioned in another post, with aggressive throttle and smooth sweeping turns or a 360 degree exit ramp, the car stays planted to the road and pushes straight through.
Under sharp quick repetitive maneuvers it might be too soft.
If, it was the only ride/handling setting, then I would want something tighter.
But with Sport and Track to choose from, I personally don't want to tighten up the Tour Plush settings.
At least not at this time
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Greg only uses state of the art Hunter tyre and wheel equipment, so I'd strongly recommend him for all of your wheel, tyre, alignment needs along with loads of other things.
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#498
Melting Slicks
Regarding the 'floaty' feeling in Plush Tour mode:
I was noticing that a small rise or dip would make the car undulate up and down when using the plush Tour mode in the DSC profiles. While generally comfortable, I wasn't happy with this lack of body control. A few others noticed this as well and Mike jumped right in with a tweak. He suggested increasing the default G-comfort parameter to 5.0 rather than 1.0. He described this as 'more hydraulic nose'. While this means nothing to me, I gave his suggestion a try. Boom. No more floaty feeling. Mike is spot on. Spot on.
I was noticing that a small rise or dip would make the car undulate up and down when using the plush Tour mode in the DSC profiles. While generally comfortable, I wasn't happy with this lack of body control. A few others noticed this as well and Mike jumped right in with a tweak. He suggested increasing the default G-comfort parameter to 5.0 rather than 1.0. He described this as 'more hydraulic nose'. While this means nothing to me, I gave his suggestion a try. Boom. No more floaty feeling. Mike is spot on. Spot on.
Last edited by spearfish25; 04-07-2017 at 12:47 PM.
#499
Melting Slicks
If we ever see WIFI available on this I would either go back to the regular file or give this a try. I don't use touring mode enough to get back into the fender.
#500
Originally Posted by cheapthrills
If we ever see WIFI available on this I would either go back to the regular file or give this a try. I don't use touring mode enough to get back into the fender.