2017 Grand Sport torque converter replacement complete (with pics)
#141
Melting Slicks
And, go to www.gmpartsonline.net and type in part # 24279495 and it will tell you that it replaces 24273061 & 24264542.
Then go to www.gmpartsgiant.com and type in 24280631 and it will tell you it replaces 24279495.
I share your confusion as to how two of the very first build A8 C7's wound up getting TC# 24279495 ???????
Then go to www.gmpartsgiant.com and type in 24280631 and it will tell you it replaces 24279495.
I share your confusion as to how two of the very first build A8 C7's wound up getting TC# 24279495 ???????
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My TC and stator support was replaced on 8/30/16 at 7500 miles. I don't know what the part number of the old TC was but the new one is:
24279495. Have about 2K miles on the new one and so far so good.
24279495. Have about 2K miles on the new one and so far so good.
#144
Melting Slicks
YES , ordered new. Another interesting twist is I posted last winter about my golf buddy, who has a Sept 2014 build 2015 MY A8 , who at that time was up to about 26000 miles and had no issues. He was kind enough to let me drive his car which had none of the TC issues I was having . I remember telling him at the time that the general consensus was that if you were going to have a failure it would be in the first 10,000 miles or so.
Well, come June 2016 at 32000 miles he took his car in for shudder etc and got a new TC. After reading KrikGS TC post recently I asked him about TC part numbers on his car. His paper work shows they removed TC # 24279495 and installed the same , TC # 24279495.
So there you go, another early build 2015 A8 with 24279495 AND a TC failure at 32000 miles . When I drove his car at the 26000 mile mark it was butter smooth and had none of the symptoms we have been reading about..........go figure !
Well, come June 2016 at 32000 miles he took his car in for shudder etc and got a new TC. After reading KrikGS TC post recently I asked him about TC part numbers on his car. His paper work shows they removed TC # 24279495 and installed the same , TC # 24279495.
So there you go, another early build 2015 A8 with 24279495 AND a TC failure at 32000 miles . When I drove his car at the 26000 mile mark it was butter smooth and had none of the symptoms we have been reading about..........go figure !
#145
Pro
Yes, I checked that several times with the DIC displaying the V8/V4 icon as I wanted to see if his car makes the "ch" or "sh" sound momentarily when it switches from V8 to V4.. There is already a thread about that noise and my car does make that noise.
#146
Pro
Would a car invoiced (built ?) in Dec 2016 , vin ending in ...134XX , have the most recent torque converter update?
#147
Ford was smart to go M6 only in their GT500's plus they don't have the transmission capacity (larger) ones for this kind of torque. Ford uses GM tranny's in their V10 trucks (Allison's).
But stubborn GM want's all the market share so they will succeed at getting it right for now and later on these big motor designs.
But stubborn GM want's all the market share so they will succeed at getting it right for now and later on these big motor designs.
#148
Melting Slicks
I don't think anyone outside GM knows that, but I think would be very close. Keep your fingers crossed. If your car was invoiced in Dec. I would think it was built later, perhaps in Jan., and that would get you even closer to the cutoff date. Just speculating here.
#149
Melting Slicks
I'd like to give a hopefully final report on my TC maladies. Got the car back yesterday, no shudder on the way home but no highway driving. Today I took a test ride and can report no shudder or tach oscillation in V4 mode. Verdict: Success, for the time being anyway.
I did notice that when I drop it to M at cruise and it moves from V4 to V8 the tach drops about 50 rpm, but that may be normal. Anyone else notice this?
See below the relevant portion of the receipt. It looks like they purged the old fluid, installed new, purged again, then a final install of fluid. PIP5337E specifies Dexron®HP Fluid (19331925, 19331926 in Canada), but my receipt refers to PIP5337H, which I can't find on-line without paying for it, and the fluid is now 19353429. Thus, I think we have yet another revision scenario here. I'm getting to really love these revision changes and look forward to each and every one, don't you? The latter number is higher, so I assume they've revised the earlier fluid. Are there any accountants in the group who would volunteer to keep up with all this?
Since I like this car so much I may put off my decision to buy a new car with M7. Since I'm miffed at GM (not the Corvette itself) I was even thinking about moving to a Porsche Cayman, so I may be slowly going insane, folks. Not putting the Cayman down with that remark, just my eradic behavior that's steeped in frustration.
I did notice that when I drop it to M at cruise and it moves from V4 to V8 the tach drops about 50 rpm, but that may be normal. Anyone else notice this?
See below the relevant portion of the receipt. It looks like they purged the old fluid, installed new, purged again, then a final install of fluid. PIP5337E specifies Dexron®HP Fluid (19331925, 19331926 in Canada), but my receipt refers to PIP5337H, which I can't find on-line without paying for it, and the fluid is now 19353429. Thus, I think we have yet another revision scenario here. I'm getting to really love these revision changes and look forward to each and every one, don't you? The latter number is higher, so I assume they've revised the earlier fluid. Are there any accountants in the group who would volunteer to keep up with all this?
Since I like this car so much I may put off my decision to buy a new car with M7. Since I'm miffed at GM (not the Corvette itself) I was even thinking about moving to a Porsche Cayman, so I may be slowly going insane, folks. Not putting the Cayman down with that remark, just my eradic behavior that's steeped in frustration.
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#150
Melting Slicks
Does it drive any different other than the shudder? Shift the same, etc.?
#151
Melting Slicks
Edit: After another long drive today I don't think the shifting is any different, but my A8 always did perform very well. First 1-2 cold shift is not as sloppy, IMO, and now feels normal--but two tries is insufficient evidence. Performance was never an issue for me with this tranny.
Last edited by iclick; 02-06-2017 at 01:03 PM.
#153
Melting Slicks
That's my worry, but I have three years left in my warranty and have apparently found a dealer who can do the job. So, it would be a matter of driving to the dealer (10 miles), waiting two days, then coming back to pick it up. Not a big hassle, but I still don't like techs doing major surgery of that sort. I got one small scratch on my rear fascia from this last ordeal, but touched it up where you can't see it without getting on hands and knees and squinting.
What's more, after the drive train warranty expires, who wants to have an A8 without an extended warranty? Not me, and that will probably be the time to trade.
What's more, after the drive train warranty expires, who wants to have an A8 without an extended warranty? Not me, and that will probably be the time to trade.
#154
That's my worry, but I have three years left in my warranty and have apparently found a dealer who can do the job. So, it would be a matter of driving to the dealer (10 miles), waiting two days, then coming back to pick it up. Not a big hassle, but I still don't like techs doing major surgery of that sort. I got one small scratch on my rear fascia from this last ordeal, but touched it up where you can't see it without getting on hands and knees and squinting.
What's more, after the drive train warranty expires, who wants to have an A8 without an extended warranty? Not me, and that will probably be the time to trade.
What's more, after the drive train warranty expires, who wants to have an A8 without an extended warranty? Not me, and that will probably be the time to trade.
#155
Melting Slicks
#157
Just installed the Range this morning. No check engine lights, no drama. Purchased directly from Range with latest firmware.
Car drove like a dream. No V4 mode, just all 8 cylinders like God and Zora Duntov intended. Just filled up a new tank so too early to comment on fuel economy. Let's be honest, though. We didn't exactly purchase these cars for how good they are with gas, lol. But I understand where you are coming from. My guess is it will have minimal impact. So far, Range worth every penny.
Car drove like a dream. No V4 mode, just all 8 cylinders like God and Zora Duntov intended. Just filled up a new tank so too early to comment on fuel economy. Let's be honest, though. We didn't exactly purchase these cars for how good they are with gas, lol. But I understand where you are coming from. My guess is it will have minimal impact. So far, Range worth every penny.
2016 Stingray Z51
#158
Burning Brakes
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No pretending here I love my Laguna blue which is very popular and looks good inside or outside Just Sayin Have a great day
#159
Team Owner
Sorry to resurrect an old thread but 2 related questions:
1) For those who had the new at the time TC part installed, is the car still operating without any issues?
2) Is the TC replacement covered under the 60k powertrain warranty?
1) For those who had the new at the time TC part installed, is the car still operating without any issues?
2) Is the TC replacement covered under the 60k powertrain warranty?
#160
Safety Car
A good tech could do it in 5 hours for sure. But that is really ripping through it. Also, there is a possibility they just did the triple fluid flush and showed you a converter from another job.
When I had A8 issues in my 2017 Camaro SS Fifty, the triple flush and TCM flash solved the issue. The tech said the cars that exhibit the shudder and are brought in immediately can usually be solved with the triple flush and TCM update. But those that allow the shudder to persist end up damaging the torque converters and that is why they have to replace them.
When I had A8 issues in my 2017 Camaro SS Fifty, the triple flush and TCM flash solved the issue. The tech said the cars that exhibit the shudder and are brought in immediately can usually be solved with the triple flush and TCM update. But those that allow the shudder to persist end up damaging the torque converters and that is why they have to replace them.