Rev match revving on 1->2 shift?
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Rev match revving on 1->2 shift?
Tried searching, but maybe this is a me-only issue. Sometimes, on the 1-2 upshift from a stop with rev-match on, the car will rev up to 3k or so for no apparent reason. Anyone else have this kind of problem? The system works all the time otherwise.
#2
I haven't seen this, but here's an idea that occurs to me. Are you pausing at all with the lever in the neutral position? It's conceivable that you could be triggering the microswitch (if that's what it is) and fooling it into thinking you're going to shift back into first gear.
#3
I think maybe sometimes you are not coming straight down fast into 2nd. depending on what speed you are going, the lockout trying to send you to 4th is probably causing you to push a little left to get it to go into 2nd. This odd circumstance might be what you're experience in that when you go a little left to get it to go down into second, under the right rpm range, it blips.
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NathanS (02-02-2017)
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This has happened to me several times, always when the car is cold - never after the car has warmed up. I was going to mention it to the dealer but it is too inconsistent to replicate.
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NathanS (02-02-2017)
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Wow, yeah, it is only when cold, and come to think of it - I am shifting slowly and easily, since the trans is cold and I like this car. My guess is it's just a quirk of the algorithm or the position sensor, so I'm not too worried. Nice to know it's not just my car though.
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Mine doesn't rev up to 3k rpms but when driving real slow when car is cold and shifting to second I notice the car does kind of push forward into the gear and speed up a bit with rev match on.
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I use rev match all the time and wondered why some said it over revs.
I was able to duplicate the problem on a downshift which may relate to the issue you describe.
Driving at 45 mph in 5th gear I made my often used shift to 3rd as if making a turn. Always get a perfect match. But as a test I moved the shift lever when in neutral toward the 1st/2nd gate. I did NOT put it in either gear, was just moving it while in neutral toward the 1st/2nd gate. Revs went up as if I was going to shift to 2nd!
The Hall sensors anticipate where you are going to shift! By moving the shift lever over a bit too far to the left, it anticipated I was going to shift to 2nd!
I have also had to stop another habit of shifting to an intermediate gear while I had my clutch depressed. In fact that is warned about. For example when coming to a stop light, I would put it in the intermediate gears as I approached the light instead of directly into 1st. Confuses the trans! I would also do that in my common 5th to 3rd shift when making a turn in town. I would put it in 4th with the clutch still depressed (it spools up the cluster gears.) Can't do that, let the triple syncro's manage the gear cluster speeds!
I was able to duplicate the problem on a downshift which may relate to the issue you describe.
Driving at 45 mph in 5th gear I made my often used shift to 3rd as if making a turn. Always get a perfect match. But as a test I moved the shift lever when in neutral toward the 1st/2nd gate. I did NOT put it in either gear, was just moving it while in neutral toward the 1st/2nd gate. Revs went up as if I was going to shift to 2nd!
The Hall sensors anticipate where you are going to shift! By moving the shift lever over a bit too far to the left, it anticipated I was going to shift to 2nd!
I have also had to stop another habit of shifting to an intermediate gear while I had my clutch depressed. In fact that is warned about. For example when coming to a stop light, I would put it in the intermediate gears as I approached the light instead of directly into 1st. Confuses the trans! I would also do that in my common 5th to 3rd shift when making a turn in town. I would put it in 4th with the clutch still depressed (it spools up the cluster gears.) Can't do that, let the triple syncro's manage the gear cluster speeds!
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I have also had to stop another habit of shifting to an intermediate gear while I had my clutch depressed. In fact that is warned about. For example when coming to a stop light, I would put it in the intermediate gears as I approached the light instead of directly into 1st. Confuses the trans! I would also do that in my common 5th to 3rd shift when making a turn in town. I would put it in 4th with the clutch still depressed (it spools up the cluster gears.) Can't do that, let the triple syncro's manage the gear cluster speeds!
I have also had to stop another habit of shifting to an intermediate gear while I had my clutch depressed. In fact that is warned about. For example when coming to a stop light, I would put it in the intermediate gears as I approached the light instead of directly into 1st. Confuses the trans! I would also do that in my common 5th to 3rd shift when making a turn in town. I would put it in 4th with the clutch still depressed (it spools up the cluster gears.) Can't do that, let the triple syncro's manage the gear cluster speeds!
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Wow, yeah, it is only when cold, and come to think of it - I am shifting slowly and easily, since the trans is cold and I like this car. My guess is it's just a quirk of the algorithm or the position sensor, so I'm not too worried. Nice to know it's not just my car though.
#11
I also have a 2017 Z51 M7, I had the same issue from 1st to 2nd shift. I also noticed it was when cold. I did have a down shift from 7 and looking for 6th but never put it in 4th and it did rev high. So if your going fast an searching for a gear, take it it out of rev match. It will rev up even if you do not engage the wrong gear with the clutch in. You are not alone.