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Old 02-02-2017, 10:50 PM
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Hey guys,

So as most of you know, with the Z51 package you get shorter gearing than the standard vette. Now the short gearing makes the shift from 2nd to 3rd feel a little clunky and the car's eco shift thing makes you shift from 1st to 4th (which is awful in its own way).

In slow to moderate acceleration, I've been playing around with shifting from 1st to 3rd and I've really been enjoying it. Like the 3 little bears, to me it feels just right.

Anybody else try this?
Old 02-03-2017, 12:36 AM
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If I'm just putting around town then yeah I'll skip 2nd and go 1st to 3rd. If I decide to drive a little more spirited...I'll use 2nd
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I do 1 to 3 quite often
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Originally Posted by DuvalVette
Hey guys,

So as most of you know, with the Z51 package you get shorter gearing than the standard vette. Now the short gearing makes the shift from 2nd to 3rd feel a little clunky and the car's eco shift thing makes you shift from 1st to 4th (which is awful in its own way).

In slow to moderate acceleration, I've been playing around with shifting from 1st to 3rd and I've really been enjoying it. Like the 3 little bears, to me it feels just right.

Anybody else try this?
I occasionally use 1st to 3rd when the trans is cold as the 1st to 2nd shift is a bit hard until the trans fluid warms.

The forced 1st to 4th is easy to fix with a ~$25 CAGS eliminator. It just pugs into the trans electrical connector and makes the car "think" it activated the solenoid!

Doesn't activate as often as my C6 but why have that annoyance any time (especially in bumper to bumper traffic) when $25 solves the issue. This is a PDF of my install-it's simple: http://netwelding.com/Skip_shift_Eliminator.pdf

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Old 02-03-2017, 01:16 AM
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I never go from 1 to 3, fwiw (though I will probably give it a try now). Regarding skip shift, it used to bug me, but I have just learned to avoid it by shifting from first at higher speeds/rpms. (And if I do get bitten by the skip shift, I just go into neutral, then 2nd gear.) So I'm happy going through the gears the usual way.
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I don't know about that, but my car likes to shift from 7th to 4th occasionally.
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90% of the time I shift 1-3-5. I have the z51 package. Works great around town.
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When I had my Z51 I used 1st to 3rd when the outside temps were cold and trans hadn't warmed up yet to avoid that notchy feel. After that I really like 2nd.

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Originally Posted by ///ADMAN
I don't know about that, but my car likes to shift from 7th to 4th occasionally.


Yeah I once in a while get the 4th to 7th, which isn't as bad as the occasional 4th to 3rd when I was going for 5th.

I installed the CAGS so I'm allowed to shift how ever I please

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Old 02-03-2017, 09:14 AM
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Eh, no. And yep, CAGS eliminator, and the MGW shiter. No reason to ever go 1 to 3...

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Instead of skipping second, try skipping first. I find it much easier to drive smoothly around town taking off in second. Then you can shift from there to 3rd, or even 4th or 5th.
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I hardly ever use 2nd--mostly 1st to 3rd, especially when the engine's cold. After it warms up, I'll run it into the 2000+ rpms and go 1-4, but I like the 1-3 better because it offers more torque at the slower speeds when I'm driving "light-footed".
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when I had the Z51 I would roll out in 2nd then 3-4-5-6 and never used 7
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Originally Posted by snork
when I had the Z51 I would roll out in 2nd then 3-4-5-6 and never used 7
Funny, been at this 3+ years and we're all different!

I usually use 1st, 2nd and 3rd- then may shift to 5th when in our rural area or in town. On our flat section of I95 I usually accelerate thru 4th on the on ramp then directly to 7th. I never use 6th!

On the exit ramp downshift directly to 1:1 4th and skip the other 2 overdrives. In fact the shifter springs are designed to make that an easy shift when not driving in anger! Just pull back on the shift lever and you're in 4th! Rev Match makes a perfectly smooth transition at those low rpm's.

To each their own.

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Originally Posted by jamesw95
I do 1 to 3 quite often


I do too. Doesn't hurt a thing. A car designed to do 1-4 will be comfortable doing a 1-3 shift.

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I go through all the gears so I can hear the engine rev up.
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Originally Posted by Maxpowers
I go through all the gears so I can hear the engine rev up.
Gosh, if you are hear the engine rev in every gear your hitting some pretty high speeds!

Must admit when coming back to my home there is a ~3/4 mile seldom traveled straight road past two farm fields-no houses. If I I don't get near or hit redline in 3rd, feel I haven't been driving the Vette!

Hmm in 4th that's 150 mph -bit much for me! Even a Z06 can't reach redline in 5th!

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Originally Posted by JerryU
I occasionally use 1st to 3rd when the trans is cold as the 1st to 2nd shift is a bit hard until the trans fluid warms.

The forced 1st to 4th is easy to fix with a ~$25 CAGS eliminator. It just pugs into the trans electrical connector and makes the car "think" it activated the solenoid!

Doesn't activate as often as my C6 but why have that annoyance any time (especially in bumper to bumper traffic) when $25 solves the issue. This is a PDF of my install-it's simple: http://netwelding.com/Skip_shift_Eliminator.pdf
Doesn't look easy!! The 1-4 isn't as bad as the C6. I just rev a little higher in first to avoid the 1-4. I'm going to try 1-3 though.
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Originally Posted by DuvalVette
Hey guys,

So as most of you know, with the Z51 package you get shorter gearing than the standard vette. Now the short gearing makes the shift from 2nd to 3rd feel a little clunky and the car's eco shift thing makes you shift from 1st to 4th (which is awful in its own way).

In slow to moderate acceleration, I've been playing around with shifting from 1st to 3rd and I've really been enjoying it. Like the 3 little bears, to me it feels just right.

Anybody else try this?
I do 1 to 3 all the time. whenever the 1-4 block kicks in. I shift to third.
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