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Old 02-15-2017, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Mister Big
To be fair to the driver of the car, he didn't have anything to do with the video. It was shot by a production company and he tried suing them for posting it. Still, I'm glad he got caught.
To be fair....??? Did the production company tell his insurance company it happened on a public street or did the driver of the car?

"Hey, I'll sue someone else because if it weren't for them I would have gotten away with insurance fraud"
Old 02-15-2017, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jschindler
To be fair....??? Did the production company tell his insurance company it happened on a public street or did the driver of the car?

"Hey, I'll sue someone else because if it weren't for them I would have gotten away with insurance fraud"
I know right? This guy is a real piece of work..

I hope he is stuck driving a Yugo the rest of his life..
Old 02-15-2017, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by thill444
I know right? This guy is a real piece of work..

I hope he is stuck driving a Yugo the rest of his life..
Yeah, if you could sue for that, nobody would ever stop and offer to be a witness at an accident for fear of being sued.
Old 02-15-2017, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by LT1 Z51
You just contradicted yourself. Deceleration at a high rate is what causes the damage. Two things, one the rate is independent of speed, and the actual thing that would kill is deceleration.

Ergo, speed kills is a vulgar statement.
If you fall off something it's not the fall that kills you it's the sudden stop at the end. Rather fall off a step stool or a skyscraper?
Old 02-15-2017, 09:45 AM
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I guess it all depends. If I fall off a stepstool, break my neck, become a quadriplegic, a financial, and emotional drain on my family for the rest of my life. I'd prefer the skyscraper.

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Old 02-15-2017, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Roadrogue
If you fall off something it's not the fall that kills you it's the sudden stop at the end. Rather fall off a step stool or a skyscraper?
The Step-Stool, but this discussion is like saying would you rather fall off a 10 story, or a 100 story building.

Honestly, probably the 100, death would be more instant. But dead is still dead.
Old 02-15-2017, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by LT1 Z51
The Step-Stool, but this discussion is like saying would you rather fall off a 10 story, or a 100 story building.

Honestly, probably the 100, death would be more instant. But dead is still dead.
Much better analogy than the step stool although a rock climber was in the news this week for surviving a...get this, a 100 foot drop!

The outlier aside, that fall would kill if not for the rocks jagged surface breaking his fall on the way down.
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Old 02-15-2017, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ZenicaPA
I live in the same world you do only I expect more from companies willing to offer a service and charge for it. You can't advertise "drivers are able to enjoy a safe and fun day at the track" and "controlled and professionally staffed environment" or "Overall SAFETY and SAFE DRIVING is the paramount priority" and then claim zero accountability when an accident occurs that can be attributed to a surface condition.

FYI, one of those quotes is from a Porsche affiliated track website
It is all hype to get people to attend. They can only do so much to make it safe. All it really means is you can go fast without as many unknowns as you face on the street. There is still a lot of risk, and if the track and event providers charged fees to take on the risk then no one would be able to afford to attend. The only way this works is if those attending accept the risk. You can try to change that by suing them (even though you have signed to waive your right to sue) and you might win, but that does not mean you should have won. Eventually track motorsports would be dead if everyone says the track has to take the risk. I understand expecting more from people putting on track events, but most people don't want to pay for it and it will never eliminate all risk that a participant has accepted. The biggest risk is usually other participants and your own natural desire to push the limits.
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Old 02-15-2017, 12:11 PM
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Absolutely no excuse for filing a false insurance claim - if you wreck a car doing things not covered under your insurance policy, then too bad for you. Now the guy faces legal action - not the way to go. Then to post up a video of the event - .
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Old 02-15-2017, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by LT1 Z51
So the car is obliterated? You can't be "deader"

Besides, when was the last time you saw an accident where the person struck the object at over 100 MPH?

I don't think I ever have seen or heard of one. #1 cause everybody brakes, and #2 even on many tracks going over 100 MPH can be difficult in most street cars (I think on all the tracks I've actually driven, there is a singular straight where I get over 100, and then it's usually 110-140 MPH and I brake so that if I did stuff it I'd hit whatever wall at less than 100 MPH).

If you don't think you can die in a 35 MPH crash, because the video doesn't look like the above, then well I've got news for you: You can, and it's very likely you will if you hit someone at that speed.

Again, dead is dead. Deader or more dead don't exist.
No words for what you just posted.
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Originally Posted by AMFRC
My bros thats the infamous 2nd gear step out.
What does this term mean?
Old 02-15-2017, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mpuzach
What does this term mean?
he meant to say MCOS - mustang car owners syndrome...

"if it starts spinning on a gear, grab the next gear and floor it...itl drift just a little"

-sorry i couldnt help it..
Old 02-15-2017, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by vbdenny
You'll have to admit that it sounded great right up until the impact. A good note seems that these can and will get away from you so it pays to be careful
Which brings us to the question of why Vettes pull to the side, violently, instead of simply spinning both tires and continuing in a straight line?

Why do C7 Z06's pull to the right violently when breaking loose...WTF.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...loose-wtf.html

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Originally Posted by pdiddy972
Which brings us to the question of why Vettes pull to the side, violently, instead of simply spinning both tires and continuing in a straight line?

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...loose-wtf.html

I haven't been following that thread.
Can you give me the short answer as to why?
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Originally Posted by sunsalem
I haven't been following that thread.
Can you give me the short answer as to why?
Bad alignments, and too much torque for inexperienced drivers is the jist I got.

I just read the whole thing....
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Originally Posted by LT1 Z51
Bad alignments, and too much torque for inexperienced drivers is the jist I got.

I just read the whole thing....
Yep that's the summary, plus a dash of "maybe the eLSD is on crack" (get it?) thrown in for good measure.

A lot of C6 and C5 owners with anecdotal comments saying their car NEVER kicks sideways - if it spins it spins, but still goes straight.
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Originally Posted by LT1 Z51
You just contradicted yourself. Deceleration at a high rate is what causes the damage. Two things, one the rate is independent of speed, and the actual thing that would kill is deceleration.

Ergo, speed kills is a vulgar statement.
No, if that were the case, we'd all be deceased. What kills is the body striking an object that is not moving. Such as the windshield and the dashboard once the vehicle has cease moving forward. Unless, said person is thrown from the vehicle because of not being properly restrained.

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Old 02-15-2017, 11:19 PM
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There's some law fail in here. Any racetrack that doesn't have you sign a standard waiver for negligence would be run by dumb bunnies. And a waiver is generally enforceable if properly written (informs signer of the risks, only waives negligence, not recklessness or intentional conduct).

BTW, last I checked, Corvettes are among the top-10 cheapest cars to insure in America, not sure why people are complaining about regular comprehensive. I pay like under $900/yr.

I couldn't tell from the video; was he still on the throttle when he spun out into the wall? Only other way that happens is if his front linkage broke? I don't know how someone owns a hi-po car for more than 10 minutes and doesn't understand GTFO the throttle when you start to fishtail. Edit: OK spinout to the right is a C7Z thing?

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Old 02-15-2017, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Gxpz06
Wtv what's the point of insuring a car if you can't race it and have a bad day ;;; insurance sucks as far as I know you can't pay enough money to get insurance at drag strip !!! If it happen to me I would tell the truth and insist they pay for it *** don't think the guy really deserves since he had to white lie to get what he pays for and in turn has to pay and pay even more

My 2 cents
That "white lie" is a felony.
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Originally Posted by Corvettinator
There's some law fail in here. Any racetrack that doesn't have you sign a standard waiver for negligence would be run by dumb bunnies. And a waiver is generally enforceable if properly written (informs signer of the risks, only waives negligence, not recklessness or intentional conduct).

BTW, last I checked, Corvettes are among the top-10 cheapest cars to insure in America, not sure why people are complaining about regular comprehensive. I pay like under $900/yr.

I couldn't tell from the video; was he still on the throttle when he spun out into the wall? Only other way that happens is if his front linkage broke? I don't know how someone owns a hi-po car for more than 10 minutes and doesn't understand GTFO the throttle when you start to fishtail. Edit: OK spinout to the right is a C7Z thing?
Some people simply don't get it. That driver is one of them.


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