Who thinks the 2018 changes will be significant?
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I really don't see any significant changes for the Stingray, GS and Z06, however the introduction of the ZR1 is very probable. Also, they may drop the Z51 pkg. in the Stingray like they did with the C6 when the GS model came out.
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GM should do something to generate a little excitement about the 2018s since this will be the 5th year of the C7 run. The GS model was the "excitement" added for the 2017 model year and now it is a year further into the run-there will be something of a refresh done, albeit a small HP increase, new option(s), something to make people want to get an 18 and keep sales from sliding and discounts from increasing.
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Look at the 2008 C6. They upped the power and made a number of changes that effected the transmission, steering and a few other refinements. But the styling inside and out was essentially unchanged.
I would expect similar types of changes for '18.
I would expect similar types of changes for '18.
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My gut feeling is that the base C7 and the Grand Sport will be as they are currently. No changes.
The base Z06 will receive the new front fascia and a small spoiler(similar to the current Z06's). That will differentiate the Z06 from the grand Sport, appearance wise, plus solve the overheating problems.
Z06 stage two will have a larger splitter and a small wing.
The Z06/Z07 will receive the new front fascia and the big rear wing, larger front splitter, etc making it more of a track car than the current Z06/Z07. Very possible a DCT(with the transmission behind the differential) will be in the Z06/Z07(DCT that will be shared with upcoming mid engine car; Caddy and/or Corvette).
I don't see any changes in horsepower in any model. Gotta' save something for the next generation, along with all new body panels.
They did up the horsepower in 2008 from 400 to 430/436 for the 2008 models, but they also increased the displacement from 6L to 6.2L. When they designed the LS3 6.2L they made significant changes in the block's design so that it would be the base block to be used for the ZR1 LS9 in the following year(2009).
They did not up the horsepower just to up the horsepower to improve sagging sales(as the C6 sales were not sagging in 2006/2007, when they were preparing for the 2008), but to have a stronger block for the 2009 LS9/ZR1.
Of course, increasing the displacement from 6L to 6.2L resulted in a nice horsepower bump.
Same with changing the transmission across the board from the T56 to the TR6060 in 2008. The TR6060 was not needed for the 436 HP Base C6 or the 505 HP Z06's in 2008. That too, was in preparation for the higher horsepower/higher torque LS9.
They did make some other "under the skin" changes like with the steering for 2008, but they also improved the steering again in the 2009 models as well as other improvements that were used in the ZR1(rear half shafts for the Z06) in the 2009 models.
Product standardization across the different model lines.
The base Z06 will receive the new front fascia and a small spoiler(similar to the current Z06's). That will differentiate the Z06 from the grand Sport, appearance wise, plus solve the overheating problems.
Z06 stage two will have a larger splitter and a small wing.
The Z06/Z07 will receive the new front fascia and the big rear wing, larger front splitter, etc making it more of a track car than the current Z06/Z07. Very possible a DCT(with the transmission behind the differential) will be in the Z06/Z07(DCT that will be shared with upcoming mid engine car; Caddy and/or Corvette).
I don't see any changes in horsepower in any model. Gotta' save something for the next generation, along with all new body panels.
They did not up the horsepower just to up the horsepower to improve sagging sales(as the C6 sales were not sagging in 2006/2007, when they were preparing for the 2008), but to have a stronger block for the 2009 LS9/ZR1.
Of course, increasing the displacement from 6L to 6.2L resulted in a nice horsepower bump.
Same with changing the transmission across the board from the T56 to the TR6060 in 2008. The TR6060 was not needed for the 436 HP Base C6 or the 505 HP Z06's in 2008. That too, was in preparation for the higher horsepower/higher torque LS9.
They did make some other "under the skin" changes like with the steering for 2008, but they also improved the steering again in the 2009 models as well as other improvements that were used in the ZR1(rear half shafts for the Z06) in the 2009 models.
Product standardization across the different model lines.
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^^^ That's my biggest question going in is whether the camo mule is the refreshed Z06 or an entirely new model ZR1. I really don't care (at this point) about the mid-engine mule whether it's a (C8) Corvette or new Cadillac. I'm wanting to pull the trigger on a new Z06 and I'm just wondering if any of the test mule aero or vents will be incorporated into the 2018 Z06. Hard to believe GM would only include it on a new model ZR1 considering the cooling issues the Z06 has experienced. If it is the Z06, I am surprised that they went ahead with the minor fixes (higher intercooler, secondary M7 cooler, etc.) for 2017 if they knew something bigger was happening for 2018. I also like the idea of further differentiating the Z06 from the Grand Sport.
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I bet they bring an orange back to the C7. Probably an orange similar to Atomic or some bright orange.
Hopeing to hell for a power bump. I asked Tadge about this saying I'd love to see a little power bump in the LT1.
He said Oh man so would we....but it's so hard to battle emissions. He was breaking it down for me and said that as an example of how strict the EPA is- A car has to let less "emissions" into the air over the entire lifetime of the car than what is let into the air when you fill up your lawnmower.
So from what he said they do want to give it a power bump, but are struggling to maintain emissions compliance. Sounds like they are working on it or have tinkered with it at some point anyway. Maybe they are saving the power bump that they can do with this engine and technology for the next engine, like an LT2 or something
Another thing to mention is in a lot of reviews of the GS many say that the power level is fine, and the car doesn't need more power.
Hopeing to hell for a power bump. I asked Tadge about this saying I'd love to see a little power bump in the LT1.
He said Oh man so would we....but it's so hard to battle emissions. He was breaking it down for me and said that as an example of how strict the EPA is- A car has to let less "emissions" into the air over the entire lifetime of the car than what is let into the air when you fill up your lawnmower.
So from what he said they do want to give it a power bump, but are struggling to maintain emissions compliance. Sounds like they are working on it or have tinkered with it at some point anyway. Maybe they are saving the power bump that they can do with this engine and technology for the next engine, like an LT2 or something
Another thing to mention is in a lot of reviews of the GS many say that the power level is fine, and the car doesn't need more power.