Paint problems at 320 miles..
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Paint problems at 320 miles..
Top of front bumper where meets fender.
Top of bumper where meets hood.
So at just 320 miles I've started to notice a defect in my paint along all the corners of the front bumper. Here are a few pictures. I've given it to the dealership to try and make it might. Thing is I told them not to repaint the bumper and if it doesn't look perfect were gonna go through the process and I might lemon law the car.
The more I've been thinking about it I also noticed these small little "t's" written along the bumper. I'm not sure if this is something they do at the plant or if it is something a body shop might have done. I wish I had a picture but I don't. Anyways just wanted to get some advice and see if anyone knows what the "t's" are that are written on the bumper. Sorry for the long rant...
(Great news everyone the dealership acknowledged this along with a defect on the way the bumper fit was unacceptable. The dealership took the car in and is ordering me a brand new one in my color for no additional money. I greatly appreciate David Maus and Lauren in the customer relations department for making it happen. Thank you everyone for your support and just know if it's not right don't accept it. GM has the obligation to deliver cars to us the right way)
Top of bumper where meets hood.
So at just 320 miles I've started to notice a defect in my paint along all the corners of the front bumper. Here are a few pictures. I've given it to the dealership to try and make it might. Thing is I told them not to repaint the bumper and if it doesn't look perfect were gonna go through the process and I might lemon law the car.
The more I've been thinking about it I also noticed these small little "t's" written along the bumper. I'm not sure if this is something they do at the plant or if it is something a body shop might have done. I wish I had a picture but I don't. Anyways just wanted to get some advice and see if anyone knows what the "t's" are that are written on the bumper. Sorry for the long rant...
(Great news everyone the dealership acknowledged this along with a defect on the way the bumper fit was unacceptable. The dealership took the car in and is ordering me a brand new one in my color for no additional money. I greatly appreciate David Maus and Lauren in the customer relations department for making it happen. Thank you everyone for your support and just know if it's not right don't accept it. GM has the obligation to deliver cars to us the right way)
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Just keep on them until they get it right. That sucks, it's not the first time I've seen that kind of damage posted here.
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I would get the correct touch up paint color and carefully touch it up. A sharpened toothpick works wonders. If you take your time the touch up will be hard to find/see. Don't stress, could be worse. My 2014 NRB base convertible had the same issue at the rear spoiler. Easy fix!
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Not that I recall, it looks to be defective because it's like everywhere the bumper meets.
I wouldn't mind fixing it myself but the cars brand new! In my opinion unacceptable.
I would get the correct touch up paint color and carefully touch it up. A sharpened toothpick works wonders. If you take your time the touch up will be hard to find/see. Don't stress, could be worse. My 2014 NRB base convertible had the same issue at the rear spoiler. Easy fix!
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It looks to me like the body panels are too close to each other, and have rubbed against each other.
eta: I've never seen any Ts on mine. Were they written on the paint?
eta: I've never seen any Ts on mine. Were they written on the paint?
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Yeah they look like they were which is weird. I'm worried some body work had been done without me knowing. They look like they were written in like a body shop pencil.
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Temperature change, expansion and retraction of the two adjoining panels causes the paint to stress against each other. Composite panels are famous for this occurring. It is a real problem on Corporate Jet aircraft where temperature changes occur fifty or more degrees on a typical flight. That is why I said to just take your time and touch it up.
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I'm surprised they don't space the panels far enough apart to compensate for that
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Sorry ...unacceptable ..dont listen to that panel expansion stuff...if that was the case ..all the cars would have it ...the reason, and the only reason for this is .... crummy , or close to none QUALITY CONTROL ..probably built on Friday
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^^^ I agree, this is the most expensive car I've owned and for it being brand new I think this is unacceptable.
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That is virtually impossible, composit components expand and contract at different amount/rates. All things considered the manufacturers do pretty good. I have been around composites for longer than I care to admit. When composit fairings were introduced to aircraft paint would not adhere to the material and would come off leaving patches of painted/unpainted areas.
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I've got two spots on my vette like this also. Tight fitting panels is the issue. Very unimpressed with overall paint quality. Also a black piece of "lint" in the hood paint. I've learned to live with it. I drive the car as often as I can so it's gonna get its share of scrapes and chips. What makes me scratch my head is my 2000 trans am had paint that was way better than my Vette. Nothing is perfect but paint quality for a car of this caliber is definitely an issue. Yes I could have it all redone under warranty but why should I have too???
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It is a problem virtually impossible to solve. Some composits expand more than others. My 2014 did it at the rear spoiler. I touched it up you would really have to look to see where the problem area was. Quality Control can't condem something that isn't there. I think if you look hard enough, over time all composit cars will experience it to some degree.
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Temperature change, expansion and retraction of the two adjoining panels causes the paint to stress against each other. Composite panels are famous for this occurring. It is a real problem on Corporate Jet aircraft where temperature changes occur fifty or more degrees on a typical flight. That is why I said to just take your time and touch it up.
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It is a problem virtually impossible to solve. Some composits expand more than others. My 2014 did it at the rear spoiler. I touched it up you would really have to look to see where the problem area was. Quality Control can't condem something that isn't there. I think if you look hard enough, over time all composit cars will experience it to some degree.
I don't think this affects the majority of owners. Sure, some get through QC, but it is far from universal.
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The T's probably stood for Too Tight!
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So at just 320 miles I've started to notice a defect in my paint along all the corners of the front bumper. Here are a few pictures. I've given it to the dealership to try and make it might. Thing is I told them not to repaint the bumper and if it doesn't look perfect were gonna go through the process and I might lemon law the car.
The more I've been thinking about it I also noticed these small little "t's" written along the bumper. I'm not sure if this is something they do at the plant or if it is something a body shop might have done. I wish I had a picture but I don't. Anyways just wanted to get some advice and see if anyone knows what the "t's" are that are written on the bumper. Sorry for the long rant...
The more I've been thinking about it I also noticed these small little "t's" written along the bumper. I'm not sure if this is something they do at the plant or if it is something a body shop might have done. I wish I had a picture but I don't. Anyways just wanted to get some advice and see if anyone knows what the "t's" are that are written on the bumper. Sorry for the long rant...
I plan to touch up with paint, since I may have done it. If it were a new car like yours, I don't know what I would do. I may still touch it up because like you said, if the whole thing gets resprayed it will most likely not match and the issue will snowball from there.
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