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Old 03-11-2017, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Always Red Dave
YES BUT A STINGRAY WITH Z51 which becomes its own separate model when ordering the combination of both together at the same time!
An esoteric, mundane and inconsequential bookkeeping trick of no import that few customers ever see or know about. Everything has a "code." Chevy SELLS the car and MARKETS the car as a "Corvette Stingray with the Z51 Performance Package" that looks exactly like any other option on the site. You can even get half the Z51 options separately if you order MSRC because you are forced to get larger tires and wheels and a silly spoiler on the back just to get MSRC. All that's left is gearing and a Sump package. Are you telling me THAT's enough to warrant a separate model? Really? Same engine, same body, same options, same everything except a sump. Next thing you know if you order NPP they'll call THAT a "separate model."

Once again, the evidence is on the Chevy site. They MARKET the car as a Corvette Stingray with an optional Performance Package. That doesn't transform the car into a separate model any more than a duck can turn into a swan.

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What's with the tiny little discs on this car?
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Originally Posted by mschuyler
An esoteric, mundane and inconsequential bookkeeping trick of no import that few customers ever see or know about. Everything has a "code." Chevy SELLS the car and MARKETS the car as a "Corvette Stingray with the Z51 Performance Package" that looks exactly like any other option on the site. You can even get half the Z51 options separately if you order MSRC because you are forced to get larger tires and wheels and a silly spoiler on the back just to get MSRC. All that's left is gearing and a Sump package. Are you telling me THAT's enough to warrant a separate model? Really? Same engine, same body, same options, same everything except a sump. Next thing you know if you order NPP they'll call THAT a "separate model."

Once again, the evidence is on the Chevy site. They MARKET the car as a Corvette Stingray with an optional Performance Package. That doesn't transform the car into a separate model any more than a duck can turn into a swan.
That's not what Consumer Reports magazine says.
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Originally Posted by mschuyler
An esoteric, mundane and inconsequential bookkeeping trick of no import that few customers ever see or know about. Everything has a "code." Chevy SELLS the car and MARKETS the car as a "Corvette Stingray with the Z51 Performance Package" that looks exactly like any other option on the site. You can even get half the Z51 options separately if you order MSRC because you are forced to get larger tires and wheels and a silly spoiler on the back just to get MSRC. All that's left is gearing and a Sump package. Are you telling me THAT's enough to warrant a separate model? Really? Same engine, same body, same options, same everything except a sump. Next thing you know if you order NPP they'll call THAT a "separate model."

Once again, the evidence is on the Chevy site. They MARKET the car as a Corvette Stingray with an optional Performance Package. That doesn't transform the car into a separate model any more than a duck can turn into a swan.
with you it is a marketing ploy by GM like RedC7AZ states but it is enough evidence that it is TECHNICALY SPEAKING ITS OWN SEPERATE MODEL even though in previous generations it was definitely a option only.
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Old 03-11-2017, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by patentcad
What's with the tiny little discs on this car?
That's front Z51 MODEL regulation size!
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So words usually have more than one definition. Some are right that "base" can refer to a car model that has absolutely NO options. How many of those cars are produced? I'd bet none. But here is an ordering guide for 2016 before the GS was introduced. Here is what a "base" car costs and the way I see it in 2016 there were 6 models.
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Originally Posted by falconhulk
Umm...The z51 is a Stingray.


Still, it is a STINGRAY!!!!

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lol nope, nobody says to people they have a z51. They say they have a stingray

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Presently there are 3 models of Corvette....Stingray, Grand Sport and Z06. All 3 models make a Coupe and Convertible version in trim levels of 1LT, 2LT and 3LT (1LZ, 2LZ and 3LZ for Z06 models). Each of these 3 models has a performance handling pkg. available as an option.... Stingray...Z51,.... Grand Sport...Z07 and Z06...Z07. For 2018 most likely there will be a 4th model of Corvette called ZR1. Z51 is no more a model than Z07 is, or for that matter, 1LT, 2LT or 3LT etc.

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Originally Posted by GR Jay
A friend told me that his brother-in-law's next door neighbor knows a guy that used to golf with a guy that went fishing once with a guy that worked at GM and he confirmed that the Z51 is it's own model. I think the GM website is wrong.
That's a darn good authority but, unless Gail's milkman's sister backs him up, worthless! That's been my final authority for at least the last 60 years!

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I got rooked, they only sold me the Stingray with Z51 preformance package!

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Z51 owner.. This whole debate is pointless. To 99.9% of the world we all drive a Corvette. Whether it's a base, Z06, Z51, Grand Sport, ZR1, etc. Nobody cares. You drive a Corvette...
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Check a registration of a z51 and it doesn't mention it. Z06 does.
This is like saying the 1LE package is a model on the gen6 Camaro. It's not

And as a z51 owner I really don't care, except since in Michigan my registration is based off of base price of MODEL it's nice that my 1LT is "cheap".
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Must be a slow day
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from the 2016 order guide:

Coupe
1YY07

Coupe with Z51
1YX07

Coupe for GS
1YW07

Coupe for Z06
1YX07

Looks like the model designation is different for the base vs the Z51 and the GS and Z06. Different model number would indicate different models.

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Originally Posted by Walt White Coupe
So words usually have more than one definition. Some are right that "base" can refer to a car model that has absolutely NO options. How many of those cars are produced? I'd bet none. But here is an ordering guide for 2016 before the GS was introduced. Here is what a "base" car costs and the way I see it in 2016 there were 6 models.
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Walt White Coupe STINGRAY with coupe or convertible have different model #'s than a STINGRAY with coupe or convertible with Z51. Their are 6 different models for 2016 in your chart!!
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