Left lane woes
#41
Pro
It is an attitude like this that causes issues on the road. You decide what is safe and then force your view on other people without any standing of any kind other than your opinion. This is a country of freedom. Exercise some common courtesy and let the other driver go by, if he or she is unsafe, they will have moved out of your area and made your life safer, otherwise you just allowed someone to go on their way without interfering.
Sitting in the left lane is one of the most dangerous things one can do! Even if you are going significantly over the speed limit.
It's not the fast lane, it's not the faster lane, it's the fastest lane; if someone is wanting to go faster than you, let them by. It's not your job to be lane monitor, unless you have a badge.
Many states have that codified, and even those that don't, have laws against allowing you to impede traffic in the left lane, regardless of speed. In all 50 states the left lane is recognized as the PASSING lane. THOSE are the rules, BTW.
Much of the road rage is people dawdling in the left lane, so why would you (as a mature adult) want to purposefully **** off an "dangerously immature" driver?
It's not the fast lane, it's not the faster lane, it's the fastest lane; if someone is wanting to go faster than you, let them by. It's not your job to be lane monitor, unless you have a badge.
Many states have that codified, and even those that don't, have laws against allowing you to impede traffic in the left lane, regardless of speed. In all 50 states the left lane is recognized as the PASSING lane. THOSE are the rules, BTW.
Much of the road rage is people dawdling in the left lane, so why would you (as a mature adult) want to purposefully **** off an "dangerously immature" driver?
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#42
It is an attitude like this that causes issues on the road. You decide what is safe and then force your view on other people without any standing of any kind other than your opinion. This is a country of freedom. Exercise some common courtesy and let the other driver go by, if he or she is unsafe, they will have moved out of your area and made your life safer, otherwise you just allowed someone to go on their way without interfering.
#43
Racer
Here is my position....anyone driving the speed limit is doing OK. If someone wants to break the limit - and endanger the lives of my wife and kids and any others - has to play by my rules. If a flasher approaches me and I am BELOW the limit, I gladly move out of the way. But those who want to speed and risk other people's lives? No way. I know many of us are quite capable of driving fast safely, but how does any guy in front of you know that? Speeding is for the track. I track my cars. But on the highway I follow the rules. Those who think they can flash people out of their way and yap on their phones, etc. do NOT have my blessing. The majority of them are dangerously immature.
So, if you see a white C7 in front of you - driving under the posted speed limit - flash me ONCE and I will dive for the right lane. But if I am at or near the posted speed limit - and you signal me to move so you can speed up and endanger my family and others who use that road? You have a fight on your hands.
So, if you see a white C7 in front of you - driving under the posted speed limit - flash me ONCE and I will dive for the right lane. But if I am at or near the posted speed limit - and you signal me to move so you can speed up and endanger my family and others who use that road? You have a fight on your hands.
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#44
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Last time I drove there for a meeting, had the wife's Porsche Cayenne. Was in the center lane and put my directional signal on to move to the right lane for an exit! A Jeep SUV well behind on my right proceeded to accelerate in an attempt not to left me in! The Porsche hit redline (~7000 rpm) and I made the exit!
That evening at dinner I mentioned the incident to the folks who work in our Miami office. They laughed and said you never use your directional signals here! You're just asking for someone to cut you off! And if they hit you, your insurance will have to pay as 1/3 don't have insurance!
Glad I live in a civilized rural area!
It is an attitude like this that causes issues on the road. You decide what is safe and then force your view on other people without any standing of any kind other than your opinion. This is a country of freedom. Exercise some common courtesy and let the other driver go by, if he or she is unsafe, they will have moved out of your area and made your life safer, otherwise you just allowed someone to go on their way without interfering.
Recall the sales manager (co-managing director) in our Germany company who drove a special Mercedes (biggest engine- all badges removed) the company purchased as part of his compensation package. He drove as fast as the car went-typically ~150 mph. I asked what happens if someone following a truck in the right lane moves around it and moves into your left lane. He said they don't live long and are no longer on the road!
The speed difference in German was a significant problem, IMO. He also drove that way at night- way past his lights. Made me nervous!
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#46
Melting Slicks
Patience, a minute on the freeway seems like forever but it's only a minute.
You will eventually get the space to go around, even if its on the right.
What gets my goat the most is tractor trailers passing one another, going at least one tenth of a mile an hour faster than the other. They see you barreling up in the passing lane, wait till you get close, and then cut you off. Takes em two days to pass. Happens every time.
You will eventually get the space to go around, even if its on the right.
What gets my goat the most is tractor trailers passing one another, going at least one tenth of a mile an hour faster than the other. They see you barreling up in the passing lane, wait till you get close, and then cut you off. Takes em two days to pass. Happens every time.
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#47
I don't tolerate left lane truckers.
#48
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It isn't for you to say what obeying the rules means.
In my own case I get out of the way when someone wants to pass me and stay in the right lane as much as possible. I figure, if they are speeding, they will get a ticket and I can wave at them as I drive by. Has happened many times
In my own case I get out of the way when someone wants to pass me and stay in the right lane as much as possible. I figure, if they are speeding, they will get a ticket and I can wave at them as I drive by. Has happened many times
#49
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Here is my position....anyone driving the speed limit is doing OK. If someone wants to break the limit - and endanger the lives of my wife and kids and any others - has to play by my rules. If a flasher approaches me and I am BELOW the limit, I gladly move out of the way. But those who want to speed and risk other people's lives? No way. I know many of us are quite capable of driving fast safely, but how does any guy in front of you know that? Speeding is for the track. I track my cars. But on the highway I follow the rules. Those who think they can flash people out of their way and yap on their phones, etc. do NOT have my blessing. The majority of them are dangerously immature.
So, if you see a white C7 in front of you - driving under the posted speed limit - flash me ONCE and I will dive for the right lane. But if I am at or near the posted speed limit - and you signal me to move so you can speed up and endanger my family and others who use that road? You have a fight on your hands.
So, if you see a white C7 in front of you - driving under the posted speed limit - flash me ONCE and I will dive for the right lane. But if I am at or near the posted speed limit - and you signal me to move so you can speed up and endanger my family and others who use that road? You have a fight on your hands.
Please stay out of Florida with that attitude.
I don't want to be stuck in traffic anywhere around you when you do encounter some Yahoo looking for a fight and packing a gun.
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#50
Drifting
So, if you see a white C7 in front of you - driving under the posted speed limit - flash me ONCE and I will dive for the right lane. But if I am at or near the posted speed limit - and you signal me to move so you can speed up and endanger my family and others who use that road? You have a fight on your hands.
I remember asking him, "Grandpa, why don't you move over and let these faster cars go by?" I was about 12 years old at the time.
He told me the speed limit was 65 and that was as fast as he'd go, and that it didn't matter what anyone else thought or did. Loved Gramps, but sheesh.....
Since I'm always scanning at least 12 seconds ahead, I have plenty of time to determine if a driver in front of me is too slow. I can easily flip on a blinker and pass on the right, without riding up on his bumper. No muss, no fuss, no anger. Perfect!
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#51
Yep, nice part about the Corvette is that it is nimble, with good acceleration. It is almost like a motorcycle where you can treat cars like stationary obstacles.
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I do know that in Virginia it is illegal to block a faster moving vehicle in the left lane EVEN if you are exceeding the speed limit. People blocking the left lane do pose a serious safety issue for those behind who begin jockeying for position. As a result of people observing the speed limit and blocking the left lane, the government must spend millions to add lanes which might not be needed IF people observed Drive Right - Pass Left. Safety for all.
#53
I used to. Now I just wait and pass on the right. Some people will still move over. Some are clueless, and some have some kind of vendetta (as soon as you pass them they try speeding up), and then there are those on their cell phones and not paying attention. Brand new SUVs, and can't figure out hands free so they have that cell phone glued to their ear.
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#54
Le Mans Master
Here is my position....anyone driving the speed limit is doing OK. If someone wants to break the limit - and endanger the lives of my wife and kids and any others - has to play by my rules. If a flasher approaches me and I am BELOW the limit, I gladly move out of the way. But those who want to speed and risk other people's lives? No way. I know many of us are quite capable of driving fast safely, but how does any guy in front of you know that? Speeding is for the track. I track my cars. But on the highway I follow the rules. Those who think they can flash people out of their way and yap on their phones, etc. do NOT have my blessing. The majority of them are dangerously immature.
So, if you see a white C7 in front of you - driving under the posted speed limit - flash me ONCE and I will dive for the right lane. But if I am at or near the posted speed limit - and you signal me to move so you can speed up and endanger my family and others who use that road? You have a fight on your hands.
So, if you see a white C7 in front of you - driving under the posted speed limit - flash me ONCE and I will dive for the right lane. But if I am at or near the posted speed limit - and you signal me to move so you can speed up and endanger my family and others who use that road? You have a fight on your hands.
#55
Burning Brakes
In a very short time I've reached some basic understanding about driving a Corvette. Along with safe driving principles, they govern my behavior on the road.
First and most important, we're the little guy, we may be able to outrun most of the "big boys", but we're small and not built for impact, so I tend to just get out of the way of "flyers" (wreckless speeders) and the infamous "left lane" cruisers. Aside from flyers on phones, nothing annoys me more than someone riding on my *** in the left lane when I'm doing 65-70.
Second...Folks have a definite attitude about us. We drive a car that's built for racing, so we're all expected to treat our public roadways like Indy or Daytona. Armed with that knowledge I'm always trying to be the safer, more considerate driver (who knows if I need to get there faster...I definitely can!).
My car stands out...my driving doesn't need to...especially when it's for the wrong reasons.
First and most important, we're the little guy, we may be able to outrun most of the "big boys", but we're small and not built for impact, so I tend to just get out of the way of "flyers" (wreckless speeders) and the infamous "left lane" cruisers. Aside from flyers on phones, nothing annoys me more than someone riding on my *** in the left lane when I'm doing 65-70.
Second...Folks have a definite attitude about us. We drive a car that's built for racing, so we're all expected to treat our public roadways like Indy or Daytona. Armed with that knowledge I'm always trying to be the safer, more considerate driver (who knows if I need to get there faster...I definitely can!).
My car stands out...my driving doesn't need to...especially when it's for the wrong reasons.
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#56
Drifting
Originally Posted by rmorin1249
My 3 years in Germany was driving Nirvana. Driving in the left lane while not overtaking is strictly verboten. The Germans do enforce the law.
#57
Racer
Here is my position....anyone driving the speed limit is doing OK. If someone wants to break the limit - and endanger the lives of my wife and kids and any others - has to play by my rules. If a flasher approaches me and I am BELOW the limit, I gladly move out of the way. But those who want to speed and risk other people's lives? No way. I know many of us are quite capable of driving fast safely, but how does any guy in front of you know that? Speeding is for the track. I track my cars. But on the highway I follow the rules. Those who think they can flash people out of their way and yap on their phones, etc. do NOT have my blessing. The majority of them are dangerously immature.
So, if you see a white C7 in front of you - driving under the posted speed limit - flash me ONCE and I will dive for the right lane. But if I am at or near the posted speed limit - and you signal me to move so you can speed up and endanger my family and others who use that road? You have a fight on your hands.
So, if you see a white C7 in front of you - driving under the posted speed limit - flash me ONCE and I will dive for the right lane. But if I am at or near the posted speed limit - and you signal me to move so you can speed up and endanger my family and others who use that road? You have a fight on your hands.
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#58
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My take
With all due respect to the C7Horray (something he/she is not affording other drivers!) this is a free country and that is what makes it great.
Sitting you A** in the left lane because YOU are traveling the speed limit is dangerous, childish, illegal, and downright stupid. You are not the "authority" on the road and trying to independently push your agenda by doing so is welcoming all the dangerous and illegal driving you are trying to "prevent", to be even worse. People trying to pass you in the "PASSING" lane, now having to pass on the right, (where people like you are correctly driving) are causing increased risk to others because of you.
You are part of this forum because I assume you enjoy the speed, style and performance that you buy a Corvette to enjoy. Don't stop other from enjoying it too! I respect good drivers, ones that know the road, enjoy their cars, drive responsibly and don't risk the life and safety of others.
You are free to enjoy your car as you see fit but don't impose your agenda on others. MOVE OVER, let people pass...THAT is how you keep yourself and your family out of harms way. NOT by blocking the road!
By the way, flash to pass in Massachusetts is deemed aggressive driving and will get you a ticket if you get caught. I like to drive fast where appropriate and I take responsibility for my actions. If someone wants to go faster than me, I move over as a courtesy, a good driving technique and as a responsible Corvette owner.
Please reconsider your approach and happy motoring.
Sitting you A** in the left lane because YOU are traveling the speed limit is dangerous, childish, illegal, and downright stupid. You are not the "authority" on the road and trying to independently push your agenda by doing so is welcoming all the dangerous and illegal driving you are trying to "prevent", to be even worse. People trying to pass you in the "PASSING" lane, now having to pass on the right, (where people like you are correctly driving) are causing increased risk to others because of you.
You are part of this forum because I assume you enjoy the speed, style and performance that you buy a Corvette to enjoy. Don't stop other from enjoying it too! I respect good drivers, ones that know the road, enjoy their cars, drive responsibly and don't risk the life and safety of others.
You are free to enjoy your car as you see fit but don't impose your agenda on others. MOVE OVER, let people pass...THAT is how you keep yourself and your family out of harms way. NOT by blocking the road!
By the way, flash to pass in Massachusetts is deemed aggressive driving and will get you a ticket if you get caught. I like to drive fast where appropriate and I take responsibility for my actions. If someone wants to go faster than me, I move over as a courtesy, a good driving technique and as a responsible Corvette owner.
Please reconsider your approach and happy motoring.
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#59
Drifting
^^^ Um, the OP is not the left lane hogger.
#60
Burning Brakes
With all due respect to the OP (something he/she is not affording other drivers!) this is a free country and that is what makes it great.
Sitting you A** in the left lane because YOU are traveling the speed limit is dangerous, childish, illegal, and downright stupid. You are not the "authority" on the road and trying to independently push your agenda by doing so is welcoming all the dangerous and illegal driving you are trying to "prevent", to be even worse. People trying to pass you in the "PASSING" lane, now having to pass on the right, (where people like you are correctly driving) are causing increased risk to others because of you.
You are part of this forum because I assume you enjoy the speed, style and performance that you buy a Corvette to enjoy. Don't stop other from enjoying it too! I respect good drivers, ones that know the road, enjoy their cars, drive responsibly and don't risk the life and safety of others.
You are free to enjoy your car as you see fit but don't impose your agenda on others. MOVE OVER, let people pass...THAT is how you keep yourself and your family out of harms way. NOT by blocking the road!
By the way, flash to pass in Massachusetts is deemed aggressive driving and will get you a ticket if you get caught. I like to drive fast where appropriate and I take responsibility for my actions. If someone wants to go faster than me, I move over as a courtesy, a good driving technique and as a responsible Corvette owner.
Please reconsider your approach and happy motoring.
Sitting you A** in the left lane because YOU are traveling the speed limit is dangerous, childish, illegal, and downright stupid. You are not the "authority" on the road and trying to independently push your agenda by doing so is welcoming all the dangerous and illegal driving you are trying to "prevent", to be even worse. People trying to pass you in the "PASSING" lane, now having to pass on the right, (where people like you are correctly driving) are causing increased risk to others because of you.
You are part of this forum because I assume you enjoy the speed, style and performance that you buy a Corvette to enjoy. Don't stop other from enjoying it too! I respect good drivers, ones that know the road, enjoy their cars, drive responsibly and don't risk the life and safety of others.
You are free to enjoy your car as you see fit but don't impose your agenda on others. MOVE OVER, let people pass...THAT is how you keep yourself and your family out of harms way. NOT by blocking the road!
By the way, flash to pass in Massachusetts is deemed aggressive driving and will get you a ticket if you get caught. I like to drive fast where appropriate and I take responsibility for my actions. If someone wants to go faster than me, I move over as a courtesy, a good driving technique and as a responsible Corvette owner.
Please reconsider your approach and happy motoring.
Never heard that before. Been here all my life