ZR1 or Grand Sport
03-28-2017, 08:10 PM
#21
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This is a great question. In the best of both worlds I would keep the C6 ZR1 and buy a C7 GS, the C7 GS is the best car for the bang . . . It has the C7z body, mechanics, etc . . . but the power of the C7 . . . it is by far the better track car because the handling fits the power . . I think it's the sweet spot when it comes to the C7 era . . .
With all that said it's always person preference but, if i could do it all over I would have bought a C7 GS . . . no regrets with my choice, just the old hind sight is always 20/20 . . .
Good Luck and whatever you choose will be the best for you.
With all that said it's always person preference but, if i could do it all over I would have bought a C7 GS . . . no regrets with my choice, just the old hind sight is always 20/20 . . .
Good Luck and whatever you choose will be the best for you.
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03-28-2017, 08:10 PM
#23
Le Mans Master
Nice ZR1, but I'd go w/the GS... but why not the Z06, which will have similar performance? It might be more affordable than you think.
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03-28-2017, 08:36 PM
#25
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C7Z w/Z07, best of both worlds.
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03-28-2017, 08:48 PM
#26
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Keep your ZR1. It's a great looking, great performing car that is truly unique.
If you follow this forum at all you'll notice that everyone is flocking to the GS. The want the looks of a Z06 without the performance capabilities (and, of course, price). But the GS is by no means unique, as you'll see when the production figures are made available. They're just the latest and greatest marketing blitz by GM.
If you're absolutely committed to getting something "new". Go for the Z06 or wait for the new ZR1.
If you follow this forum at all you'll notice that everyone is flocking to the GS. The want the looks of a Z06 without the performance capabilities (and, of course, price). But the GS is by no means unique, as you'll see when the production figures are made available. They're just the latest and greatest marketing blitz by GM.
If you're absolutely committed to getting something "new". Go for the Z06 or wait for the new ZR1.
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03-28-2017, 08:52 PM
#27
Burning Brakes
HP is something that once you become accustomed to it, it's VERY evident when it's missing.
We just sold a 2011 Carbon Edition and replaced it with a C7 Z06/Z07. The C7 Z06 is light years ahead of the C6, and very happy with the decision. But - to replace the ZR1 with a Stingray - think you might regret it. Agree with the posters that advise if you're going to go C7, definitely go Z06.
We just sold a 2011 Carbon Edition and replaced it with a C7 Z06/Z07. The C7 Z06 is light years ahead of the C6, and very happy with the decision. But - to replace the ZR1 with a Stingray - think you might regret it. Agree with the posters that advise if you're going to go C7, definitely go Z06.
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03-28-2017, 09:21 PM
#29
Keep your ZR1. It's a great looking, great performing car that is truly unique.
If you follow this forum at all you'll notice that everyone is flocking to the GS. The want the looks of a Z06 without the performance capabilities (and, of course, price). But the GS is by no means unique, as you'll see when the production figures are made available. They're just the latest and greatest marketing blitz by GM.
If you're absolutely committed to getting something "new". Go for the Z06 or wait for the new ZR1.
If you follow this forum at all you'll notice that everyone is flocking to the GS. The want the looks of a Z06 without the performance capabilities (and, of course, price). But the GS is by no means unique, as you'll see when the production figures are made available. They're just the latest and greatest marketing blitz by GM.
If you're absolutely committed to getting something "new". Go for the Z06 or wait for the new ZR1.
OP get the C7 ZR1!
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03-28-2017, 10:24 PM
#30
Melting Slicks
Keep the ZR1!
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03-28-2017, 10:27 PM
#31
C7 GS then supercharge it or C7Z. Else you'll be very disappointed in the power difference.
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03-29-2017, 10:41 AM
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It seems to me that you don't seem to be married to your current ZR1 and are open to replacing so I would say go with your heart. If I were you and I could afford to have both then I would keep both in a heartbeat.
However, if one cannot afford to keep both and considering you mentioned that you do not track your car and only on occasion are you able to let her run on the freeway somewhat. Power just sitting is just that power unused so what does it matter that it has the 650 vs. 470 horse power other than HP bragging rights
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I know of two people who have traded their C7 Z06 for a Grand Sport because they do not track their cars and felt that the C7 Z06 was too much power as either a daily driver or weekend vehicle which are things to consider as many can't handle the power of the C7 Z06.
Lastly, you get the C7 Z06 Wide Body on the 470 HP Grand Sport which also has more horse power than most will ever need or even attempt to tap in. So I wouldn't make my decision solely because of the amount of HP's but what really tugs at my heart and emotions in either the ZR1 or GS.
One last note, i've noticed that Z06's depreciation and drop in value is much steeper than C7 Stingray, Z51 or GS and I think their values will drop even more as the next release come in 2018. I would only buy a 2015/2016 used Z06 as there are a ton out there 15-25k less than what people paid and most have under 5k in miles which is a NEW Car in my mind and someone else paid for the depreciation. The higher the price of a new car he higher immediate deprecation pulling off the lot!
Aesthetically, the new C7 is just a beautiful head turning car in both the interior and exterior not withstanding all the newer technology.
However, if one cannot afford to keep both and considering you mentioned that you do not track your car and only on occasion are you able to let her run on the freeway somewhat. Power just sitting is just that power unused so what does it matter that it has the 650 vs. 470 horse power other than HP bragging rights
. I know of two people who have traded their C7 Z06 for a Grand Sport because they do not track their cars and felt that the C7 Z06 was too much power as either a daily driver or weekend vehicle which are things to consider as many can't handle the power of the C7 Z06.
Lastly, you get the C7 Z06 Wide Body on the 470 HP Grand Sport which also has more horse power than most will ever need or even attempt to tap in. So I wouldn't make my decision solely because of the amount of HP's but what really tugs at my heart and emotions in either the ZR1 or GS.
One last note, i've noticed that Z06's depreciation and drop in value is much steeper than C7 Stingray, Z51 or GS and I think their values will drop even more as the next release come in 2018. I would only buy a 2015/2016 used Z06 as there are a ton out there 15-25k less than what people paid and most have under 5k in miles which is a NEW Car in my mind and someone else paid for the depreciation. The higher the price of a new car he higher immediate deprecation pulling off the lot!
Aesthetically, the new C7 is just a beautiful head turning car in both the interior and exterior not withstanding all the newer technology.
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03-29-2017, 11:43 AM
#33
Burning Brakes
Well if you're looking for a exclusivity, then that ZR1 is a keeper.
But, if you want a fun car to drive around town and take trips in, and track it when the urge hits you, and such, well the C7GS is the way to go. (Full disclosure: I just bought a new C7GS so my opinion is biased!).
The GS will not be a collectible and will be just another Vette soon enough. But,, you will enjoy driving this car all over God's creation and not worrying about miles, imperfections due to road rash, routine maintenance, depreciating value, etc; You can actually treat it like a regular car and THAT is what the reward is. These new C7 Grand Sports are unbelievable bargains right now. I know some think you need the C7 Z's 650hp to have fun, but, in my day to day driving experience (I sold my beloved LS7 C6 Z for this), that is just not the case. 460hp combined with this balanced chassis and the majorly upgraded infotainment and interior finish (read: SEATS!) just cannot be overstated.. this car is flat out fun as hell to drive! Rip on it, and it begs for more! Drop into Tour Mode on the highway and it rides like a Cadillac.. amazing what GM did developing this car.
Good luck with your decision! Can't go wrong either way because they are ALL Corvettes.
But, if you want a fun car to drive around town and take trips in, and track it when the urge hits you, and such, well the C7GS is the way to go. (Full disclosure: I just bought a new C7GS so my opinion is biased!).
The GS will not be a collectible and will be just another Vette soon enough. But,, you will enjoy driving this car all over God's creation and not worrying about miles, imperfections due to road rash, routine maintenance, depreciating value, etc; You can actually treat it like a regular car and THAT is what the reward is. These new C7 Grand Sports are unbelievable bargains right now. I know some think you need the C7 Z's 650hp to have fun, but, in my day to day driving experience (I sold my beloved LS7 C6 Z for this), that is just not the case. 460hp combined with this balanced chassis and the majorly upgraded infotainment and interior finish (read: SEATS!) just cannot be overstated.. this car is flat out fun as hell to drive! Rip on it, and it begs for more! Drop into Tour Mode on the highway and it rides like a Cadillac.. amazing what GM did developing this car.
Good luck with your decision! Can't go wrong either way because they are ALL Corvettes.
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03-29-2017, 12:53 PM
#34
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I can't thank you guys enough for the feedback you've provided me. After some thought, I'm kinda leaning on keeping my ZR1. Like many of you have said, the grand sport is an outstanding car, but the lack of horsepower would probably get to me. IMO, something feels special about the ZR1, yes the interior sucks, but GM threw everything they had to make it corvette's big dog for a few short years. The C7Z is the top dog until they release the new ZR1. Damn you Chevy for making such outstanding cars! But like SLOWRYDE said, we all win at the end of the day because they're all Corvettes!
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03-29-2017, 03:45 PM
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[QUOTE=ls7guy;1594403960]Hey guys, I'm kinda torn between these two vehicles. Currently I have a 2009 zr1 24,000 miles. It's completely stock. The c7 grand sport has really began to grow on me. I have the opportunity to get a 2017 admiral blue 2lt nicely loaded with competition seats, and PDR. Honest answers, what car would you choose?
Keep your ZR1, good chance to be a classic years down the road.
Keep your ZR1, good chance to be a classic years down the road.
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03-29-2017, 04:10 PM
#37
Le Mans Master
C6 ZR1's are great cars, but if "classic" means "appreciating in value" -- probably not in the OP's lifetime if he's more than about 35 years old.
Let's review two of the "most-likely-future-classic" Corvettes of the last 40 years:
*1978 Pace Car-- Lots of those were squirreled away with less than 1000 miles because "they're going to be classics". Beautiful cars, to be certain. But today, 40 years later, they are selling for roughly the sticker price in 1978. That's 4 decades of waiting just to get your original, non-inflation-adjusted money back.
*C4 ZR1s, with the lovely LT5 quad cam V8 and unique bodywork, guaranteed "collectors items" and crazy prices at the time. Here we are, over 20 years later, and their used value has not appreciated to anywhere near the point of their original selling price, with a lot of examples still at about 1/3 or less of their original selling price. How many more decades can those owners wait before they get their money back? I'd bet they'll be sold at estate sales long before the value 'evens out'.
Certainly, the C6 ZR1 has been thought to be a "future classic". Do we think the C6 ZR1, as great as it is, will defy that trend, with newer, better, and faster C7's coming out?
For me, life is too short to hang onto a car just because maybe, someday, it will be a classic. INVEST in stocks, RE, etc. But for cars -- get what you *want* and drive it. Most people's lifespans aren't long enough to make their newly-purchased Corvette an appreciating classic.
*unless of course you are Jay Leno -- then you can afford just to store the C6 ZR1 in a corner of your automotive warehouse *and* buy other cars too!
Let's review two of the "most-likely-future-classic" Corvettes of the last 40 years:
*1978 Pace Car-- Lots of those were squirreled away with less than 1000 miles because "they're going to be classics". Beautiful cars, to be certain. But today, 40 years later, they are selling for roughly the sticker price in 1978. That's 4 decades of waiting just to get your original, non-inflation-adjusted money back.
*C4 ZR1s, with the lovely LT5 quad cam V8 and unique bodywork, guaranteed "collectors items" and crazy prices at the time. Here we are, over 20 years later, and their used value has not appreciated to anywhere near the point of their original selling price, with a lot of examples still at about 1/3 or less of their original selling price. How many more decades can those owners wait before they get their money back? I'd bet they'll be sold at estate sales long before the value 'evens out'.
Certainly, the C6 ZR1 has been thought to be a "future classic". Do we think the C6 ZR1, as great as it is, will defy that trend, with newer, better, and faster C7's coming out?
For me, life is too short to hang onto a car just because maybe, someday, it will be a classic. INVEST in stocks, RE, etc. But for cars -- get what you *want* and drive it. Most people's lifespans aren't long enough to make their newly-purchased Corvette an appreciating classic.
*unless of course you are Jay Leno -- then you can afford just to store the C6 ZR1 in a corner of your automotive warehouse *and* buy other cars too!
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03-29-2017, 04:24 PM
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Well Said! 
C6 ZR1's are great cars, but if "classic" means "appreciating in value" -- probably not in the OP's lifetime if he's more than about 35 years old.
*Remember the 78 Pace Car? Lots of those were squirreled away with less than 1000 miles because "they're going to be classics". Beautiful cars, to be certain. But today, 40 years later, they are selling for roughly the sticker price in 1978. That's 4 decades of waiting just to get your original, non-inflation-adjusted money back.
*C4 ZR1s, with the lovely LT5 quad cam V8 and unique bodywork, guaranteed "collectors items" and crazy prices at the time. Here we are, over 20 years later, and their used value has not appreciated to anywhere near the point of their original selling price, with a lot of examples still at about 1/3 or less of their original selling price. How many more decades can those owners wait before they get their money back? I'd bet they'll be sold at estate sales long before the value 'evens out'.
Do we think the C6 ZR1, as great as it is, will defy that trend, with newer, better, and faster C7's coming out?
For me, life is too short to hang onto a car just because maybe, someday, it will be a classic. INVEST in stocks, RE, etc. But for cars -- get what you *want* and drive it.
*unless of course you are Jay Leno -- then you can afford just to store the C6 ZR1 in a corner of your automotive warehouse *and* buy other cars too!
*Remember the 78 Pace Car? Lots of those were squirreled away with less than 1000 miles because "they're going to be classics". Beautiful cars, to be certain. But today, 40 years later, they are selling for roughly the sticker price in 1978. That's 4 decades of waiting just to get your original, non-inflation-adjusted money back.
*C4 ZR1s, with the lovely LT5 quad cam V8 and unique bodywork, guaranteed "collectors items" and crazy prices at the time. Here we are, over 20 years later, and their used value has not appreciated to anywhere near the point of their original selling price, with a lot of examples still at about 1/3 or less of their original selling price. How many more decades can those owners wait before they get their money back? I'd bet they'll be sold at estate sales long before the value 'evens out'.
Do we think the C6 ZR1, as great as it is, will defy that trend, with newer, better, and faster C7's coming out?
For me, life is too short to hang onto a car just because maybe, someday, it will be a classic. INVEST in stocks, RE, etc. But for cars -- get what you *want* and drive it.
*unless of course you are Jay Leno -- then you can afford just to store the C6 ZR1 in a corner of your automotive warehouse *and* buy other cars too!
03-29-2017, 04:35 PM
#39
Burning Brakes
You must not have test drove a c7z to be saying that! Haha just messing with you. But seriously, I absolutely loved my c6z prior to driving the C7Z. The only thing my c6 had was slightly faster straight line speed. Everything else and I mean everything, is done better by the c7 platform
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03-29-2017, 05:34 PM
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C6 ZR1's are great cars, but if "classic" means "appreciating in value" -- probably not in the OP's lifetime if he's more than about 35 years old.
Let's review two of the "most-likely-future-classic" Corvettes of the last 40 years:
*1978 Pace Car-- Lots of those were squirreled away with less than 1000 miles because "they're going to be classics". Beautiful cars, to be certain. But today, 40 years later, they are selling for roughly the sticker price in 1978. That's 4 decades of waiting just to get your original, non-inflation-adjusted money back.
*C4 ZR1s, with the lovely LT5 quad cam V8 and unique bodywork, guaranteed "collectors items" and crazy prices at the time. Here we are, over 20 years later, and their used value has not appreciated to anywhere near the point of their original selling price, with a lot of examples still at about 1/3 or less of their original selling price. How many more decades can those owners wait before they get their money back? I'd bet they'll be sold at estate sales long before the value 'evens out'.
Certainly, the C6 ZR1 has been thought to be a "future classic". Do we think the C6 ZR1, as great as it is, will defy that trend, with newer, better, and faster C7's coming out?
For me, life is too short to hang onto a car just because maybe, someday, it will be a classic. INVEST in stocks, RE, etc. But for cars -- get what you *want* and drive it. Most people's lifespans aren't long enough to make their newly-purchased Corvette an appreciating classic.
*unless of course you are Jay Leno -- then you can afford just to store the C6 ZR1 in a corner of your automotive warehouse *and* buy other cars too!
Let's review two of the "most-likely-future-classic" Corvettes of the last 40 years:
*1978 Pace Car-- Lots of those were squirreled away with less than 1000 miles because "they're going to be classics". Beautiful cars, to be certain. But today, 40 years later, they are selling for roughly the sticker price in 1978. That's 4 decades of waiting just to get your original, non-inflation-adjusted money back.
*C4 ZR1s, with the lovely LT5 quad cam V8 and unique bodywork, guaranteed "collectors items" and crazy prices at the time. Here we are, over 20 years later, and their used value has not appreciated to anywhere near the point of their original selling price, with a lot of examples still at about 1/3 or less of their original selling price. How many more decades can those owners wait before they get their money back? I'd bet they'll be sold at estate sales long before the value 'evens out'.
Certainly, the C6 ZR1 has been thought to be a "future classic". Do we think the C6 ZR1, as great as it is, will defy that trend, with newer, better, and faster C7's coming out?
For me, life is too short to hang onto a car just because maybe, someday, it will be a classic. INVEST in stocks, RE, etc. But for cars -- get what you *want* and drive it. Most people's lifespans aren't long enough to make their newly-purchased Corvette an appreciating classic.
*unless of course you are Jay Leno -- then you can afford just to store the C6 ZR1 in a corner of your automotive warehouse *and* buy other cars too!
As for choosing between the two. Do you want the latest and greatest new tech/styling or the big HP? Honestly ask yourself how often you are tapping into that 638 HP? Whereas you will appreciate the great interior/styling/etc of the C7 every day. Plus its new with a warranty.
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