ChucksZ06

In the lower rpm range that is true. If you will notice though the z28 is always between 5 and 7k rpms, which favors the ls7 by a fair amount...that is what real race car drivers do...keep the engine in the power band. You guys that always push the low end coming out of corners crap should take note of this. I think the c7 will be a little faster, but it would be a lot faster with the ls7 engine vs the lt1. BTW I am waiting for my c7 to be built.

johnglenntwo

Is the new normal going to be CC brakes only for a Ring Time? We already know the Zxx is coming with CC brakes for 2015 (to be shown first in just 3-months). Do they really want to over shadow that in anyway? Would that hurt the “Big Guns” sales? Like I have said a Z52 bump could bolt-on another 10s easy. What a value for under $80K that could be.

Also, that Camaro probably has more tire friction, which, might have actually helped in that raining situation a bit?

Trackaholic

Motortrend has posted an update to their story that indicates GM claims about 6 seconds lost due to weather. So, still not quite into the 7:20's, but very low 7:30s based on their claims.

I suspect the C7 won't be quite as fast, but we'll see.

-T

Racer

The wider the contact patch the more the hydroplane.

johnglenntwo

The Z28 does have more friction:

Weight Reduction

Chevrolet claims that the new Z/28 is 300 pounds lighter than the already-incredible, 580 horsepower ZL1. That puts the new Z/28 in the ballpark of 3,900 pounds. Not exactly a Corvette Stingray, but considering how capable the ZL1 is despite its weight, a 300-pound drop in heft should do wonders for that chassis.

Read more: http://gmauthority.com/blog/2013/03/...#ixzz2hv1baeAw

And my guess is that is probably a little better for plowing through some drizzle?

johnglenntwo

And serious all around 305 tires:

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...ed=0CF8Q9QEwAg

Wow!

PRE-Z06

Interesting torque is rated 11ftlbs higher than the C6Z...awesome driving, congrats GM!

johnglenntwo

hy•dro•plane
verb (used without object)
1.
to skim over water in the manner of a hydroplane.
2.
Also, aquaplane. (of a vehicular tire or vehicle) to ride on a film of water on a wet surface with a resulting decrease in braking and steering effectiveness.

(Need flooding!)

"Been there done that!"

blf0005

The Z28 has no A/c. That's why it is rated a bit higher power wise.

0JDP Motorsports

I think the Z28 takes the C7 with equal track conditions.. They are both excellent cars regardless and for the Camaro to take out some of the cars it has on a wet track is VERY IMPRESSIVE regardless! GM FTW!

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PRE-Z06

HP rating is the same, maybe because they don't want to rate it higher than the Z06...I was thinking it had to do with the intake and exhaust system being different

CPhelps

Yep still rated at 505hp but rated at 481tq instead of the Z06 470. This was attributed to the revised intake and manifolds. The Autoblog article also mentioned Mahle pistons and Pankl titanium connecting rods, which I thought was interesting since the LS7 already had Ti con rods. No mention as to if the Mahle pistons are forged. Seems like GM may have beefed up the durability as well.

Also A/C is optional on Z/28.

johnglenntwo

I have to admit after reviewing it again that track seems to be pretty shiny. And he definitely almost lost the back end at least once. Interesting how getting a 3900lb car to stay flat enough to minimize its inertial effect to not overcome its tire friction could be so successful in the rain? TECH!

I noticed the Z28 in at least one of those earlier promo VIDS being more aggressive.

Anyway!

johnglenntwo

The Z/28 produces 440 pounds more downforce than the SS model.

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz2i1mU9qHh

3837/1320.48 of tire size = 2.906

3444/1103.76 of tire size = 3.120

That means everything else not being equal the Camaro has more bad *** tire, and grip!

ParisTNDude

If the Z28 and the C7 were on the track at the same time earlier and the Z28 was faster than the C7, wouldn't that be good enough reason for Chevy NOT to release the C7 times? Especially since the C7 has been released to the public without the Nurburgring times and the Z28 is months away from being released. LOL...I love the speculation. It's really great that Chevy has so many cars that run great at so many different venues.

Suaveat69

Pankl was/is ZR1 rod. The LS7 was not a pankl. Did GM go to the pankl for the Z28?

CPhelps

A recent Autoblog article about the Z/28 claims that the Z/28 version of the LS7 has Ti Pankl rods and Mahle pistons, so it seems like GM did go to Pankl for the Z/28 LS7 rods. Is it reasonable to assume different design (from the original LS7 Ti rods), vs. just a different supplier making the same part?

LEAVINU

The original LS7 Ti rods are a true piece of art. I've seen them and held them and they are just mind blowing cool. Stupid light too!

Out of curiosity I looked up various aftermarket rods and found none, in my search, that were as light as the factory LS7 rod. Pretty impressive!

johnglenntwo

The front springs are 85 percent stiffer and the rear springs are 65 percent stiffer.

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz2iBl4Aau7

We can't get too excited, since, this IS NOT exactly a grocery getter. Not really up to a production Corvettes creed!

But, hopefully, and similarly, more aero downforce will be available and carry over this time to the new Z. It's pretty easy to see mid teens if that was the case!

LEAVINU

Anyone else read the part about the wheels rotating in the wheels due to tire and brake grip?

I am by no means a Camaro fan but this Z/28 is flat out bad a$$! I would totally buy one for the right price.