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Old 02-20-2014, 11:56 AM
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I've been nothing but impressed with the customer service, product, and quality of ARH headers. The fact that they make killer power is a nice bonus too.

I can text Steve@ARH and get a response back ASAP. Great guy to deal with. Nick the owner is great too. Plus american made with american sourced parts.
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Go with majority, you won't be disappointed with American Racing Headers ..

Nick and crew at ARH are top notch people to deal with and I only Use ARH on my project / drag cars

This 850HP monster ZL1 proudly wears the ARH badge

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Get ARH and talk to them about your application and future needs to select a size. I don't even like headers but I can't find anything wrong with theirs.
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Originally Posted by robertf97
Get ARH and talk to them about your application and future needs to select a size. I don't even like headers but I can't find anything wrong with theirs.


Originally Posted by breecher_7
Im on very thin ice around here right now due to my opinions so I am going to simply agree with your statement and let people know to research your purchase carefully before spending your money.
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Old 02-20-2014, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Unreal
I've been nothing but impressed with the customer service, product, and quality of ARH headers. The fact that they make killer power is a nice bonus too.

I can text Steve@ARH and get a response back ASAP. Great guy to deal with. Nick the owner is great too. Plus american made with american sourced parts.
Ditto here!
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Originally Posted by Theta




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Well educated opinions....
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Got a set of ARH in 1 7/8 with X and high flow on order. Cat back will be B&B bullets.

Went with the NPP from factory and am severely disappointed.

I'll let you know when she is up and running.
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I'm honestly surprised you didn't wait to install the headers before replacing the NPP.

It's an awesome combination with a factory cutout that's loud as hell with headers. But, to each their own.
Old 02-20-2014, 06:07 PM
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Thanks to all for the comments and suggestions. After a series of discussions with Roger Preston from Horsepower Sales I've decided to go with ARH headers. Still discussing whether to go 1 3/8 or 1 7/8. It will depend on the size of the cam. Roger and Jeremy are gathering info on this mod.

As was noted in one of my earlier posts, my C6 was a monster on and off the 1/4 mile. That beast was built by Horsepower Sales and they liked their work so much, they bought my C6 and converted it from a straight line racer to a road rally speedster.
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So a milder cam needs less large primaries? If you don't do a cam the penalty seems pretty high for the 1 7/8, if you look at the comparison dyno's, all under the curve.
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From what I've gathered from ARH, the 1-3/4" still have an advantage up through the 500+whp area. Once you're in blower territory, the 1-7/8" take over.

I actually ordered and planned on using 1-3/4" with my blower, but just switched over to the 1-7/8" on their recommendation.
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So a milder cam needs less large primaries? If you don't do a cam the penalty seems pretty high for the 1 7/8, if you look at the comparison dyno's, all under the curve.
When it comes to which part should be installed I simply go with what Roger and Jeremy suggest. Both guys are Corvette masters and know all the major developers and distributors on a first name basis.

And, they are my friends and have always taken care of my vettes since 2000. Plus, they stand by their work!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Theta
From what I've gathered from ARH, the 1-3/4" still have an advantage up through the 500+whp area. Once you're in blower territory, the 1-7/8" take over.

I actually ordered and planned on using 1-3/4" with my blower, but just switched over to the 1-7/8" on their recommendation.
That's a great measuring stick. I don't plan on ever doing a blower, but maybe a cam and 500whp would probably be the goal or slightly higher. So 1 3/4 sounds like the best set up.
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Originally Posted by Mardis Gras
Got a set of ARH in 1 7/8 with X and high flow on order. Cat back will be B&B bullets.

Went with the NPP from factory and am severely disappointed.

I'll let you know when she is up and running.
ooh..ooh.. (with hand held high in Vinnie Barbarino fashion)

this is exactly what happened to me and I want to do same thing. please let me know how it sounds
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Originally Posted by breecher_7
Im on very thin ice around here right now due to my opinions so I am going to simply agree with your statement and let people know to research your purchase carefully before spending your money. If you are in doubt about what system to purchase I would recommend the OP contact Doug@ECS or Ron@Vengeance for further help. Neither of them will steer you wrong or push you to a inferior product. Togther they have created the most powerful C7 the world has yet to see, I dont think you can find a better group of guys to take advice from.
LMR is a top notch shop also. The quality is comparable with ARH & Kooks. Their isn't a significant difference in HP between the two. Many independent test have been run by several shops.
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I'm not sure I agree with that fully - the independent tests here have all shown ARH being well ahead of Kooks - both the 1-3/4" and 1-7/8" on both stock and cammed cars.
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Originally Posted by Theta
I'm not sure I agree with that fully - the independent tests here have all shown ARH being well ahead of Kooks - both the 1-3/4" and 1-7/8" on both stock and cammed cars.
Let’s just say we are still in “Magic” dyno times LOL. Tune only numbers (no mods) exceeding header x, y, z… At this point I’d take most results with a grain of salt, because it’s a big advertising push on CF for business…

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I should have posted this here, but I had PMed it and forgotten.

The gains and differences between both after tuning is most likely negligible. Not sure, though.

Redline also compared the ARH 1-3/4" to the 1-7/8" and then to the Kooks 1-7/8" on a stock C7. That was a better indicator for most people than cam testing.

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Originally Posted by Redline Motorsports
Hat's off to Ron and his team at Vengence for putting together a comprehensive test of a few C7 header designs. We where doing our own testing at the same time and finally got a chance to test out ARH's 1.75" LT as well....

ALL tests where done with a stock GM calibration, 195-210 coolant temps and 180-200 degree oil temps. Three pulls where made with each header and the runs shown where the middle of each.




The 1.75" header was quite impressive on this 100 percent stock engine. Will be interesting when Ron tries these on his head/cam build and ours on a supercharged engine. Both the 1.75 and 1.875" made the same power over 4800 rpms so it will be interesting to see.

My quick rip around the business park most certainly felt the increase in the punch zone....

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Originally Posted by C6_Demon
there hasn't been a lot of testing. VR did testing, but with a camshaft so unless you're running a cam of similar spec, it is hard to make a decision. TSP did a test on stock cam, engine dyno - this is as good as it gets. Give them a ring

LMR has my C7 right now. They are putting headers, cam & an ESC SC. I know they will do a good job. If I get 740hp and I could have gotten 755hp. I don't think I could tell a difference.
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Originally Posted by marianrc
LMR has my C7 right now. They are putting headers, cam & an ESC SC. I know they will do a good job. If I get 740hp and I could have gotten 755hp. I don't think I could tell a difference.


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