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Old 03-02-2014, 12:34 PM
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Default 305 rear tires on stock Z51 rims?

Has anyone been running wider tires on stock Z51 rims? If so I'l like to hear comments. I'd like to go 265 front 305 rear and would really rather not put after market wheels on the car. I just don't want to be the guinea pig to find out if it rubs. Advice welcome. Thanks.
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The stock wheels aren't wide enough, IMO, for wider tires. They will look balloonish and the handling will become sloppy as the sidewall won't be as well supported. My opinion is that of you want to go wider you need to get a wider wheel.

Also, keep in mind that wider is not necessarily better for traction. The PSS tires on a Z51 car have a very grippy and aggressive compound... more aggressive than normal PSS tires which are already great. You could go with a wider tire and find you actually get LESS performance because the rubber compound isn't as good as the OEM tire.

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You might be able to go with a 295 width. Does anyone recall the C5Z rear rim width? That came standard with a 295 tire.
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Originally Posted by gthal
The stock wheels aren't wide enough, IMO, for wider tires. They will look balloonish and the handling will become sloppy as the sidewall won't be as well supported. My opinion is that of you want to go wider you need to get a wider wheel.
Yep, that was my concern as well. Wish the rears were 10.5"... wouldn't be a problem.

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Also, keep in mind that wider is not necessarily better for traction. The PSS tires on a Z51 car have a very grippy and aggressive compound... more aggressive than normal PSS tires which are already great. You could go with a wider tire and find you actually get LESS performance because the rubber compound isn't as good as the OEM tire.
Obviously something I'd try to avoid. Just because I want to go wider doesn't mean I'm keen to lessen the quality of the tire. While the Michelin Super Sport ZP's that were designed in concert with the development of the C7 are not available outside of stock sizes, the non run-flat version Super Sport is available in a 305/30ZR20. I also have a hunch that as we get closer to the release of the Z07 we may just see the Zero Pressure ZP's in wider sizes, perhaps 295's or even 305's. I guess only time will tell.

Thanks for the input.
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Originally Posted by Turbooo2u
You might be able to go with a 295 width. Does anyone recall the C5Z rear rim width? That came standard with a 295 tire.
I think you are right that a 295 would fit with no issues. Just a lot of $ to spend for a small difference. Maybe after burn through these.
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This has a lot of good wheel info: http://www.corvettecentral.com/wheel-offset/
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Originally Posted by B Stead
Here are the least expensive custom wheels that I can find:

Oz Superleggera III

Front, 19 x 9.5, 59mm, use 5mm spacer, 265 or 275 tire sizes, $859 each
Rear, 19 x 11, 75mm, 305 tire sizes, $885 each
Rear, 20 x 11, 75mm, 305 tire sizes, $975 each

Or wait for the BBS RS-GT in more sizes:

Front, 18 x 9, 54mm, 255/40-18 tire size, $900 each
Rear, 19 x 10.5, 74mm, 295/35-19 tire size, $1320 each

Or custom order Forgeline wheels are about $1400 each.

And the Cray 2014 line is developing 9.5"/11" wide wheels at the correct wheel offsets. Of course those are lower-end and about $450 each
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Thanks for the suggestions. If I do go aftermarket wheels, I think that I'll have to overlook price as a gating issue. I particularly like these from West Coast Corvette, although I'd go with the white pinstripe to match my car. Take a look. Anybody had any experience with these?

http://www.westcoastcorvette.com/p-1...om-wheels.aspx
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I had the rear wheels widened on my 2011 CTSV Coupe and put on the Toyo Proxes R888 in 305-30 19. It was a big improvement.
I'm doing the same with my C7. Widen the rears and put on 315-30-20 Toyo Proxes R888s. I measured everything and there should be no issues. There's a good amount of room on the inside.
I'm well over 600 RWHP and the stock tires are just awful.
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Originally Posted by Andy@AandASuperchargers
Widen the rears and put on 315-30-20 Toyo Proxes R888s. I measured everything and there should be no issues.
Are you saying 315's on the stock C7 Z51 10" rims? Or once I get new wider rims? I can see the latter; a bit dubious on the former.
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Originally Posted by B Stead
The wheel width range for the C7 295 rear tire sizes includes 10" wide wheels but calls for 10.5". And the C7 255 front tire sizes include 8.5" wide wheels but call for 9".

Here are the least expensive custom wheels that I can find:

Oz Superleggera III

Front, 19 x 9.5, 59mm, use 5mm spacer, 265 or 275 tire sizes, $859 each
Rear, 19 x 11, 75mm, 305 tire sizes, $885 each
Rear, 20 x 11, 75mm, 305 tire sizes, $975 each


Or wait for the BBS RS-GT in more sizes:

Front, 18 x 9, 54mm, 255/40-18 tire size, $900 each
Rear, 19 x 10.5, 74mm, 295/35-19 tire size, $1320 each


Or custom order Forgeline wheels are about $1400 each.


And the Cray 2014 line is developing 9.5"/11" wide wheels at the correct wheel offsets. Of course those are lower-end and about $450 each
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I'd rather CCW's. They are better made, available in just about any size, offset, and style you could want; and they are cheaper than any other wheel other wheel you mention, (half the price of Forgelines.)

I have had 5 sets of CCW's now, and they have become my first and last stop for custom wheels.


www.ccwheel.com

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These HRE Monobloc's coming out look like a great choice. $3k for a full set up.
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putting R888 will hugely improve grip even with stock width.

is there any evidence supporting the claim that PSS GP compound is better than "normal" PSS?
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Originally Posted by Andy@AandASuperchargers
I had the rear wheels widened on my 2011 CTSV Coupe and put on the Toyo Proxes R888 in 305-30 19. It was a big improvement.
I'm doing the same with my C7. Widen the rears and put on 315-30-20 Toyo Proxes R888s. I measured everything and there should be no issues. There's a good amount of room on the inside.
I'm well over 600 RWHP and the stock tires are just awful.
The proxes R888 are going to handle 600rwhp? I don't have much experience on tires and I've only heard of nittos or MT, not toyo drag radials. Thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by Z513LT
Are you saying 315's on the stock C7 Z51 10" rims? Or once I get new wider rims? I can see the latter; a bit dubious on the former.
Read a little closer to what he said!
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Originally Posted by Rock'n Blue 08
Read a little closer to what he said!
Got it.
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In this thread, 325 drag radials on the rear. Custom Forgeline wheels.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-t...m-weaponx.html
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Originally Posted by Andy@AandASuperchargers
I had the rear wheels widened on my 2011 CTSV Coupe and put on the Toyo Proxes R888 in 305-30 19. It was a big improvement.
I'm doing the same with my C7. Widen the rears and put on 315-30-20 Toyo Proxes R888s. I measured everything and there should be no issues. There's a good amount of room on the inside.
I'm well over 600 RWHP and the stock tires are just awful.
We are running a 20x11.5 rear with 315/30/20 R888 and absolutely LOVE them. I've been running this tire on both customer and personal vehicles for year without any complaints. These stock Michelins are a joke when it comes to performance.

Originally Posted by Zmoy2
The proxes R888 are going to handle 600rwhp? I don't have much experience on tires and I've only heard of nittos or MT, not toyo drag radials. Thanks in advance.
They will handle 600rwhp a whole lot better than any standard street tire will. Just be prepared for the tread wear. Toyo does also have an awesome drag radial (Proxes TQ), but they do not have a 20" fitment yet. The R888 is technically an autocross tire.

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Thank you David that is good to know.
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How about:
275/35-18 front, 25.6" diameter, 3.7" sidewall, 9.5" wheel width
305/35-18 rear, 26.4" diameter, 4.2" sidewall, 11" wheel width

Throw on some Toyo R888s, they might even fit the inexpensive C5Z06 18x10.5 wheels.
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Originally Posted by B Stead
The wheel width range for the C7 295 rear tire sizes includes 10" wide wheels but calls for 10.5". And the C7 255 front tire sizes include 8.5" wide wheels but call for 9".

Here are the least expensive custom wheels that I can find:

Oz Superleggera III

Fornt, 18 x 9.5, 59mm, use 5mm spacer, 265 or 275 tire sizes, $879 each
Front, 19 x 9.5, 59mm, use 5mm spacer, 265 or 275 tire sizes, $859 each
Rear, 19 x 11, 75mm, 305 tire sizes, $885 each
Rear, 20 x 11, 75mm, 305 tire sizes, $975 each


Or wait for the BBS RS-GT in more sizes:

Front, 18 x 9, 54mm, 255/40-18 tire size, $900 each
Rear, 19 x 10.5, 74mm, 295/35-19 tire size, $1320 each


Or custom order Forgeline wheels are about $1400 each.


And the Cray 2014 line is developing 9.5"/11" wide wheels at the correct wheel offsets. Of course those are lower-end and about $450 each
.

All great suggestions above, if you track I recommend CCW with Toyo proxies R888

CCW $700 each for custom wheels

My set up for C7 Z51
Front 18/10 r888 295's
Rear 19/12 r888 325's

No rubbing handles like a race car and it's much cheaper than slicks


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