2600 Miles Motor Knocking Already!!!!!!!
07-17-2014, 10:53 AM
#21
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I had a bent rod in my 2010 Grand Sport with only 2,100 miles on it. Got the dealership to replace the entire engine - much better piece of mind.
07-17-2014, 11:42 AM
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There are no "new motors" available for your car. New motors go in new cars. Rebuilt motors go in used cars. You have a used car. It is titled and has 3,000 miles on it. So realign your expectations with reality.
If indeed your engine was flawed from a non-local assembly mechanic/factory, what makes you think the next one won't be as well? Personally, I would much rather have a local engine builder hand build my engine like you are about to have. The small block chevy is one of the easiest and well known engines to work on and repair or modify. You should have no concerns with it.
A factory trained and certified dealer technician will rebuild your engine properly, GM is not going to have a "local mechanic" perform the repair, especially since GM is paying to have the work done, not you.
There are laws in place governing these situations. These laws exist because this type of thing does happen. And it happens across the industry and the world on a fairly regular basis. You do not have a unique circumstance. I do understand it is frustrating or annoying or disheartening, but it's time to accept that it has happened and all you can do is move to the next day, the next step, and just get through it.
More than likely you will be well taken care of and GM/Chevy will correct the problem and you will have your car back to enjoy for many years to come. If the repair is not completed within the required parameters to keep it out of your state's lemon law criteria then you can pursue that. Until then, let them do their thing.
If indeed your engine was flawed from a non-local assembly mechanic/factory, what makes you think the next one won't be as well? Personally, I would much rather have a local engine builder hand build my engine like you are about to have. The small block chevy is one of the easiest and well known engines to work on and repair or modify. You should have no concerns with it.
A factory trained and certified dealer technician will rebuild your engine properly, GM is not going to have a "local mechanic" perform the repair, especially since GM is paying to have the work done, not you.
There are laws in place governing these situations. These laws exist because this type of thing does happen. And it happens across the industry and the world on a fairly regular basis. You do not have a unique circumstance. I do understand it is frustrating or annoying or disheartening, but it's time to accept that it has happened and all you can do is move to the next day, the next step, and just get through it.
More than likely you will be well taken care of and GM/Chevy will correct the problem and you will have your car back to enjoy for many years to come. If the repair is not completed within the required parameters to keep it out of your state's lemon law criteria then you can pursue that. Until then, let them do their thing.
07-17-2014, 12:00 PM
#23
Jukebox Graduate
A little context is in order
So lets get a grip and step away from the panic button. Sadly, these things happen with every auto manufacturer in the world. A friend just had his brand new Bentley replaced by Bentley with a new car because the original was a lemon.
I have learned in my short time here that GM takes care of these customers, albeit slower than any of us would like. The Bentley was flatbed trucked from Saint Louis to Dallas for repair before Bentley relented.
I am so sorry for the OP and I know if it were me, I'd be just as angry and upset. However, Higgs might have been a little too blunt, but he's right on all points.
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07-17-2014, 12:00 PM
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Guess what, the second car is another sale for GM and the corresponding dealer. What a world!!!
Dealer fixes the buyback and sells it as a used car.
07-17-2014, 12:52 PM
#25
Happened to me as well. Had my motor replaced at 1300 or so miles (see my thread for my story).
This is happening way too many times. I'm seeing threads at least once a week or biweekly...
I wish you the best of luck. Fight for a new motor at minimum!
This is happening way too many times. I'm seeing threads at least once a week or biweekly...
I wish you the best of luck. Fight for a new motor at minimum!
07-17-2014, 03:11 PM
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Did I say that they never replace the car or did I say that new engines go in new cars? Seems like the thinking man would realize that this validates my statement.....he did not get a new engine for his used car.
Guess what, the second car is another sale for GM and the corresponding dealer. What a world!!! Dealer fixes the buyback and sells it as a used car.
Guess what, the second car is another sale for GM and the corresponding dealer. What a world!!!
Dealer fixes the buyback and sells it as a used car.BTW - how does the 2nd car count as another sale for GM? Who pays for it? Sure, the first one becomes a used car lemon law buy back but I don't see how GM gets a 2nd new car sale out of this.
07-17-2014, 03:14 PM
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Lemon law buyback? Where do you get your information? It never went to lemon law status. GM replaced the car for customer satisfaction. Customers car will be fixed and sold as a used car. 
07-17-2014, 07:30 PM
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OK, go with your definition then. How does that still make it count for two new car sales by GM - which was my point.
07-17-2014, 08:49 PM
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So you did notice it........ seems like the thinking man could have just said so. A simple "yes" would have sufficed, with out the need to try and appear more intelligent.
BTW - how does the 2nd car count as another sale for GM? Who pays for it? Sure, the first one becomes a used car lemon law buy back but I don't see how GM gets a 2nd new car sale out of this.
BTW - how does the 2nd car count as another sale for GM? Who pays for it? Sure, the first one becomes a used car lemon law buy back but I don't see how GM gets a 2nd new car sale out of this.
there is no magic involved in these situations.
07-18-2014, 03:50 PM
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weak, bro. weak.
Just using your own phrase back at ya!
Ok, Mr, "god particle" - you win. You've proved that you think you're you're smarter than the average bear, even in your choice of screen name.... I didn't enter this thread looking for word games and mind games, so if that's your intent find yourself another playmate.
two separate registered vins, two reported sales. broken car is simply a trade in, gm eats the negative equity instead of the customer. car deal and ownership experience just starts over.
there is no magic involved in these situations.
Just using your own phrase back at ya!
Ok, Mr, "god particle" - you win. You've proved that you think you're you're smarter than the average bear, even in your choice of screen name.... I didn't enter this thread looking for word games and mind games, so if that's your intent find yourself another playmate.
two separate registered vins, two reported sales. broken car is simply a trade in, gm eats the negative equity instead of the customer. car deal and ownership experience just starts over.
there is no magic involved in these situations.
07-18-2014, 06:42 PM
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It's not because I say so, it's because that is how it works. Maybe you don't agree on a "that ain't right, somebody gotta suffer" perspective, but no, GM or the dealer doesn't have to eat a whole car, just the negative equity, ie. depreciation (and GM pays for the repair like a normal warranty).
Then the dealer gets to make profit on the used car sale not to mention GM pays them to fix the car.....
Why does that really matter? The initial customer is taken care of, the car is fixed while no one is waiting impatiently on it, two businesses have to opportunity to remain in business, and another potential Vette owner can become a realized Vette owner. Nobody loses in the long run.
Then the dealer gets to make profit on the used car sale not to mention GM pays them to fix the car.....
Why does that really matter? The initial customer is taken care of, the car is fixed while no one is waiting impatiently on it, two businesses have to opportunity to remain in business, and another potential Vette owner can become a realized Vette owner. Nobody loses in the long run.
07-18-2014, 08:25 PM
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Second thing is yes there are brand new motors as warranty stock, just like everything else on the car. When there is truly catastrophic failure they do not ship the dealer 900 parts to put a motor together. Not all engines can be rebuilt.
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07-18-2014, 09:09 PM
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I worked in engineering at the Big 3 for twenty years. First thing, dealers don't know what is going on.
Second thing is yes there are brand new motors as warranty stock, just like everything else on the car. When there is truly catastrophic failure they do not ship the dealer 900 parts to put a motor together. Not all engines can be rebuilt.
Second thing is yes there are brand new motors as warranty stock, just like everything else on the car. When there is truly catastrophic failure they do not ship the dealer 900 parts to put a motor together. Not all engines can be rebuilt.
there are replacement engines available but 99% of the time they are not new they are remanufactured (which to the factory peeps is as good as new). I am sure this depends on the life cycle of the product. how many brand new, never started LT1 engines are available for warranty use? no doubt in some respects Chevy is different in that there is a large crate motor market and truthfully I do not know if they pull from the retail shelves to fill warranty claims, but I would put my money on no, it's remans for warranty.
typically there are no in dealership rebuilds, I agree. usually it is torn down to find cause of failure and shipped back to manufacturer for verification and hopefully, revision of future product.
07-19-2014, 12:43 AM
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There are no "new motors" available for your car. New motors go in new cars. Rebuilt motors go in used cars. You have a used car. It is titled and has 3,000 miles on it. So realign your expectations with reality.
If indeed your engine was flawed from a non-local assembly mechanic/factory, what makes you think the next one won't be as well? Personally, I would much rather have a local engine builder hand build my engine like you are about to have. The small block chevy is one of the easiest and well known engines to work on and repair or modify. You should have no concerns with it.
A factory trained and certified dealer technician will rebuild your engine properly, GM is not going to have a "local mechanic" perform the repair, especially since GM is paying to have the work done, not you.
There are laws in place governing these situations. These laws exist because this type of thing does happen. And it happens across the industry and the world on a fairly regular basis. You do not have a unique circumstance. I do understand it is frustrating or annoying or disheartening, but it's time to accept that it has happened and all you can do is move to the next day, the next step, and just get through it.
More than likely you will be well taken care of and GM/Chevy will correct the problem and you will have your car back to enjoy for many years to come. If the repair is not completed within the required parameters to keep it out of your state's lemon law criteria then you can pursue that. Until then, let them do their thing.
If indeed your engine was flawed from a non-local assembly mechanic/factory, what makes you think the next one won't be as well? Personally, I would much rather have a local engine builder hand build my engine like you are about to have. The small block chevy is one of the easiest and well known engines to work on and repair or modify. You should have no concerns with it.
A factory trained and certified dealer technician will rebuild your engine properly, GM is not going to have a "local mechanic" perform the repair, especially since GM is paying to have the work done, not you.
There are laws in place governing these situations. These laws exist because this type of thing does happen. And it happens across the industry and the world on a fairly regular basis. You do not have a unique circumstance. I do understand it is frustrating or annoying or disheartening, but it's time to accept that it has happened and all you can do is move to the next day, the next step, and just get through it.
More than likely you will be well taken care of and GM/Chevy will correct the problem and you will have your car back to enjoy for many years to come. If the repair is not completed within the required parameters to keep it out of your state's lemon law criteria then you can pursue that. Until then, let them do their thing.
07-19-2014, 07:59 AM
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when I say there are no new engines, transmission etc available for warranty, I mean, real actual brand new stuff that they can pull from the assembly line. just-in-time manufacturing doesn't allow room for overproduction (or under) of components and surplus. everything down to the paint is ordered based on projected volume. so remans are used because new ones are not in supply.
could new stuff be available after production ceases for a given model? sure I guess, but is your car still under warranty by then?
I am also interested to hear what you already know as well. I don't know everything, but I am willing to share what I do know.
07-24-2014, 03:19 AM
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Uhhh fellas I smell a troll. Just signed up to the forums a couple of days ago. Poor punctuation and spelling. Run on sentences.
I call bs unless you post pics and proof you got a c7.
You sound like a ford crybaby trying to troll us!
Go back to your parents basement! You bad bad boy.
I call bs unless you post pics and proof you got a c7.
You sound like a ford crybaby trying to troll us!
Go back to your parents basement! You bad bad boy.
07-25-2014, 08:06 PM
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Been through the GM engine replacement process twice. Once with my LS7 and once with my daughter's Pontiac Torrent 3.6 V6. Unless the engine has grenaded and is obviously not rebuildable the process starts with a tear down to find out what is wrong. Then a Should Cost analysis is done to see how much it would cost to repair the engine Vs replace it. If the Should Cost is too high GM will replace the engine Vs repair it. Most repair shops would prefer replacing the engine Vs rebuilding it since doing a rebuild will tie up shop equipment longer and can reduce the shop's and mechanic's income. I believe this influence results in inflated Should Costs since when I looked at the one for my LS7 there were a bunch of items on the list that made me ask why this one or why that one. The answer was we don't know for sure but there is a potential for that part to have been damaged so we decided to include it in the repair cost.
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08-27-2014, 09:06 AM
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Hi, is there any count on how many engine problems there is with C7 ?
In Europe it seems they have an even bigger problem, there is 450 ish sold Corvettes and over 40 dead engines..... rumor mill is running high, and a few guys a convinced to switch from other camps are now hesitating...
the high number is Europe is possible due to different usage, we tend to drive harder, faster and have the roads to do so (unlimited speed limits)
Are all problems related to spun bearings ?
In Europe it seems they have an even bigger problem, there is 450 ish sold Corvettes and over 40 dead engines..... rumor mill is running high, and a few guys a convinced to switch from other camps are now hesitating...
the high number is Europe is possible due to different usage, we tend to drive harder, faster and have the roads to do so (unlimited speed limits)
Are all problems related to spun bearings ?