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Old 08-12-2014, 10:46 PM
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Looking at installing a supercharger next month. Wondering how the stock Z51 wheel setup is keeping traction with the extra horsepower and torque? How many people have kept the stock setup or gone with 20x11 rear wheel for wider tires and how much that helps? Would love to get some more power but not make the car a pain to drive
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Originally Posted by mikebid15
Looking at installing a supercharger next month. Wondering how the stock Z51 wheel setup is keeping traction with the extra horsepower and torque? How many people have kept the stock setup or gone with 20x11 rear wheel for wider tires and how much that helps? Would love to get some more power but not make the car a pain to drive
at the least you will need tires with a supercharger if you plan to race it. if its just a DD just don't get over 3k rpms and you will be fine
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Originally Posted by mikebid15
Looking at installing a supercharger next month. Wondering how the stock Z51 wheel setup is keeping traction with the extra horsepower and torque? How many people have kept the stock setup or gone with 20x11 rear wheel for wider tires and how much that helps? Would love to get some more power but not make the car a pain to drive
In part really depends on what type of blower you intend to go with (Roots or Centri)...the latter makes power up high so traction upon engagement is not so much an issue. I have the A&A kit, hasnt been a problem. Roots may be a different story.
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In part really depends on what type of blower you intend to go with (Roots or Centri)...the latter makes power up high so traction upon engagement is not so much an issue. I have the A&A kit, hasnt been a problem. Roots may be a different story.
I will kindly disagree with you on that. I have had an ECS kit with meth for 5 months now and all I did was spin during hard acceleration, through several gears. I just went with 315" Toyo 888s and I have only driven the car once with them on, but it seems to have much better traction.
Old 08-13-2014, 01:40 AM
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I have an ECS and Meth and all I do is spin.

I even spin unintentionally when I make the right hand turn out of my neighborhood.
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Originally Posted by Motohead279
I will kindly disagree with you on that. I have had an ECS kit with meth for 5 months now and all I did was spin during hard acceleration, through several gears. I just went with 315" Toyo 888s and I have only driven the car once with them on, but it seems to have much better traction.
My apologies for jacking the thread, are you using the WW reservoir for your meth and roughly how long does it last for? I just got my ECS S/C and Alky kits and I'm still on the fence with the meth. Feel free to PM me so we don't take it over any further.

FWIW, I recently installed Toyo r888's on my stock z51 wheels in anticipation of the blower. I can say that so far, they aren't great at the drag strip but definitely better than stock. They were made for road racing and should stick nicely.
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Originally Posted by mikebid15
Looking at installing a supercharger next month. Wondering how the stock Z51 wheel setup is keeping traction with the extra horsepower and torque? How many people have kept the stock setup or gone with 20x11 rear wheel for wider tires and how much that helps? Would love to get some more power but not make the car a pain to drive
Depends on the temperture. Colder nights not so good. In such case I layoff first gear. Warm days are not too bad. I try to with drive an educated foot at all times and am careful to lay on it too hard.

I like the stock rubber!
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I have a a&a supercharger..no way can you push it on 1st
I want to try nitto nt05 tires on stock z51 wheels but they are out of stock
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I'm surprised by the responses here honestly, I think the C7 hooks up surprisingly well with stock tires, let alone aftermarket tires. Much better then the C5/6 platform even though they are not much different.
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You will get a ton of opinions on this. Tire temp, pressure, road temp, condition, surface, cleanliness, wear on tires, power level will all vary. Spinning a little maybe fine to one person but not to another. Any of the 550+rwhp cars can probably light them up at will in first. Centri or PD will have enough to overpower the tires at that level which is why I'm not a huge fan of PD blowers. The advantage of more low end just translates into more tire smoke in my experience.
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I too have R888's and light them up under hard acceleration in 1st, 2nd and sometimes 3rd if it's cold.

If you want straight line traction drop down to 19s or 18s and get the MT drag radials.
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i just ordered cray brickyards 20x11 in back with 305 mickey Thompson e/t street. I figured it will be needed with the ecs kit.
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Originally Posted by "BoneStock"
i just ordered cray brickyards 20x11 in back with 305 mickey Thompson e/t street. I figured it will be needed with the ecs kit.
Let me know how that works out. I that's a REALLY tall tire and I think you're going to be the first person to run them on a C7. I was advised against it.
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Originally Posted by Jay Farber
Let me know how that works out. I that's a REALLY tall tire and I think you're going to be the first person to run them on a C7. I was advised against it.
They will be here next week. If they dont work im gunna be pissed!
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I've been running the Ecs set up with Meth for five months now and 2800 miles and I have used this power on both the stock run flats as well as the Toyo's with 11 inch rear. With the stock tire set up first gear is mostly unless the tires are extremely warm. Even if you do a burnout before you launch with the car you have to shift before 5000 RPMs unless you want to excessive wheel spin and you won't be able to launch the car at high rpm.

With that being said with warm stock tires you can drop the car into second gear at 55 mph hammer it redline shifting all the way through the gears without any issues with traction. I did several roll races with a new viper starting at around 50 mph and was able to destroy him by three cars every race.

No I have a custom set of HRE wheels with Toyo's front and back. When the tires are warm you can completely launch the car from a dead standstill with plenty of traction. I have yet to launch the car any higher than 2500 rpm's from a dead stop but it hooks up perfectly it launches pretty nice. I'll be going to the dragstrip in a couple weeks and I can take some higher rpm launches then and report back
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Very interested in your results.
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You guys might not want to run the new Mickey Thompsons e/t. I got caught in the rain and this happend running 60 mph.

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thats not good
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more interested if insurance will cover this having dry pavement only drag tires on.
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OMG thats terrible!

Because of your post i just changed my order from NT05R's to NT05's!!!

Any more details? Is your insurance footing the bill?


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