Seannyc

Which will have more Rwhp

stangkilrproductions

Just depends on your setup. I love my Pro Charger

DOUG @ ECS

They will all produce the same amount of power, what you need to break down is the quality of the kit, what is included with your purchase, and how well the kit can be tuned.

We feel we excel in leaps and bounds over our competition in those regards. Feel free to contact us if you wish to speak in length about it.

Seannyc

How much did u dyno at the hp and Tq

Seannyc

I'm looking for 650 700Rwhp and around the same torque if I want that do I have to change anything or I could get that horse power with just headers and Ecs

breecher_7

Headers, Meth, and a ECS kit will break 700whp with no issues at all.

stangkilrproductions

On 12lbs 814rwhp/768tq on E85 with a mild cam at 6,200 rpms. The quality of the kit and the install process is awesome!

DOUG @ ECS

As Breecher said, you will need to add meth injection for the necessary octane and fueling. Other then that you can reach your goals without adding headers if you chose too.

There are plenty of build threads on here with base ECS kits in the 700 rwhp area.

Seannyc

Great numbers

Seannyc

Sounds good thx

ElFingers

Doug, dumb question. Would a meth injection setup still be required if, for example, you run 97+ octane race fuel, or supplement 93 octane pump gas with a booster like, say, Torco? Or is it the cooling effects of the meth that you're really after?

0ProChargerTech

For OEM fit and finish, we got you covered....and Performance!


- Plug and Play MAF extension harness (no cutting of wires)
- No cutting of your factory airbox
- No cutting of your OEM trim parts (we supply precut parts for you)
- One piece molded silicon hoses (no random metal tubes, and clamps)
- Inlet can be mated to OEM airbox with our CNC billet plate
- Brackets and supercharger can be had in satin, polished, and black
- LARGEST intercooler on the market, AND two different mounting options
- Tuning comes included for stock cars and pump gas (if you run meth, custom tuning required)
- Two Crank pulley options, Anoidized black OEM interface, or SFI balancer (two brands)

Power and Performance are 100%... and your car remains 100% reversible back to stock. (Even the tune in the ECU is undetected)

thegame

ECS has always been top notch and all class in my books. These guys have talked me OUT of buying parts I really didn't need and cause them self sales. They are honest and they KNOW THEIR STUFF!! ECS all the way

arcticZ51

Do you have to splice wires on the ECS kit?

RpeterK

The ECS kit requires

Absolutely no wire cutting or splicing.

breecher_7

The kit is also better engineered in my opinion and supplies you with better parts. Not to mention is capable of more power out of the box in its "base" configuration...

It would be wise of the OP to take a look at the parts break down and bracket designs available as well as blower head capability of the unit supplied in the "base" kits without a upcharge. You will see two clear choices at that point, ECS or A&A in my opinion. Take that along with their proven track record in the C5/C6 platform and you will see its a no brainer on what direction to go.

stangkilrproductions

I am at 10k miles on my Pro-Charger kit and counting. I have a customer that has over 230,000 miles on his P1SC unit and has NEVER replaced a single part other than changing the S/C oil every 10k miles. After visiting the Pro-Charger factory here in Kansas City I see how much work and design goes into each part. They are all car guys just like us.

tkbigsky

Am I wrong to think that Meth is just a short term fix and possible future problem should you lose injection, not too mention an ongoing additional cost to run the vehicle. In my talks with some of the engineers and tuners it also sounds like the cams are just going to help accelerate a fuel pump failure. My understanding is that the real change needs to be a new high pressure fuel pump which LPE and others are currently working on. I really want to S/C my Z51 but, have been told to wait by some of the bigger shops until fuel pumps are available. Obviously I'm not an expert on this but, know that I can't afford to run the motor lean. Would greatly appreciate any expertise.

Bucknut2006

When it comes time for a s/c on my car it will be ECS first or A&A second.

breecher_7

What "bigger shops" told you to wait for a fuel pump or that meth is a band aid? The big box shops that no nothing about real power? Because if you talk to the big power shops in the ls/lt world like ECS, Vengeance, or LMR, you won't get any silly answers like that.

Meth is totally safe if tuned correctly. My best friend is a avid road racer and has been running a 940whp c5z with a totally meth dependent tune for 3 years now. He goes through a 55 gallon drum of meth in a season with no issues. Meth is safe, just needs to be tuned correctly.