Stingray weight Z51 vs. Base
#1
Drifting
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Stingray weight Z51 vs. Base
Anyone ever weigh a base or Z51? GM says they weigh the same but I find it hard to believe all the hardware the Z51 has weighs nothing. Not making a case against the Z51 but GM is clear to point out exactly how much advantage the Z51 has based on 5hp advantage.
Really .3 seconds 0 to 60 for 5hp?!?!?
I'd be interested in knowing real world weights!
Dry sump, more oil/tank w/larger pump, rear diff cooler, sensors on 4 corners, larger brakes/wheels, additional rear sway bar that the base does not have. I'm thinking 100 lbs more at least?
Stingray 3298lbs
0 to 60 4.0 seconds
power to weight 7.25:1 (curb weight/horsepower)
Stingray with Z51 3298lbs
0 to 60 3.8 M7 - 3.7 seconds w/A8
power to weight 7.17:1 (curb weight/horsepower)
Really .3 seconds 0 to 60 for 5hp?!?!?
I'd be interested in knowing real world weights!
Dry sump, more oil/tank w/larger pump, rear diff cooler, sensors on 4 corners, larger brakes/wheels, additional rear sway bar that the base does not have. I'm thinking 100 lbs more at least?
Stingray 3298lbs
0 to 60 4.0 seconds
power to weight 7.25:1 (curb weight/horsepower)
Stingray with Z51 3298lbs
0 to 60 3.8 M7 - 3.7 seconds w/A8
power to weight 7.17:1 (curb weight/horsepower)
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Z51 is 80-100 lbs heavier and does not make more power than the base except that npp is standard on z51 in 2015 but it wasn't in 2014.
the faster launch is attributable to the automatic transmission and possibly different gearing only. the A6 was also faster from a dig than the M7, all else equal.
either way it's a drivers race. you buy a Z51 if you need a dry sump motor, which 90% do not and/or you want magnetic ride suspension.
the faster launch is attributable to the automatic transmission and possibly different gearing only. the A6 was also faster from a dig than the M7, all else equal.
either way it's a drivers race. you buy a Z51 if you need a dry sump motor, which 90% do not and/or you want magnetic ride suspension.
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#7
Race Director
The dry sump and electronic differential prevented me from purchasing the Z51 option. I went with the base suspension. I too am very happy with my decision.
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#9
No!
Magazine tests showed a curb wight of 3444 lbs for the 2014 M7 Z51. As I posted above, my M7 Z51 1LT with mag dampers almost full of fuel weighs 3411 on my corner weighing scales. That is almost 140-150 lbs more than GM's advertised weight for the base model. And I would imagine a 3LT Z51 weighs even more.
Magazine tests showed a curb wight of 3444 lbs for the 2014 M7 Z51. As I posted above, my M7 Z51 1LT with mag dampers almost full of fuel weighs 3411 on my corner weighing scales. That is almost 140-150 lbs more than GM's advertised weight for the base model. And I would imagine a 3LT Z51 weighs even more.
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Team Owner
Anyone ever weigh a base or Z51? GM says they weigh the same but I find it hard to believe all the hardware the Z51 has weighs nothing. Not making a case against the Z51 but GM is clear to point out exactly how much advantage the Z51 has based on 5hp advantage.
Really .3 seconds 0 to 60 for 5hp?!?!?
I'd be interested in knowing real world weights!
Dry sump, more oil/tank w/larger pump, rear diff cooler, sensors on 4 corners, larger brakes/wheels, additional rear sway bar that the base does not have. I'm thinking 100 lbs more at least?
Stingray 3298lbs
0 to 60 4.0 seconds
power to weight 7.25:1 (curb weight/horsepower)
Stingray with Z51 3298lbs
0 to 60 3.8 M7 - 3.7 seconds w/A8
power to weight 7.17:1 (curb weight/horsepower)
Really .3 seconds 0 to 60 for 5hp?!?!?
I'd be interested in knowing real world weights!
Dry sump, more oil/tank w/larger pump, rear diff cooler, sensors on 4 corners, larger brakes/wheels, additional rear sway bar that the base does not have. I'm thinking 100 lbs more at least?
Stingray 3298lbs
0 to 60 4.0 seconds
power to weight 7.25:1 (curb weight/horsepower)
Stingray with Z51 3298lbs
0 to 60 3.8 M7 - 3.7 seconds w/A8
power to weight 7.17:1 (curb weight/horsepower)
So 50-60 pounds heavier is a Z51 over a base car.
#13
Team Owner
Mine had no mag dampers that's the weight difference. Those are heavy!
Last edited by 3 Z06ZR1; 01-18-2015 at 03:25 PM.
#14
That would be stunning if the mag dampers add 94 lbs (3444 lbs less 3350 lbs).
Car and Driver C7 Z51 M7 weight: 3444 lbs
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...he-dash-page-3
Fuel capacity is 18.5 gallons which weighs about 7 lbs per gallon, so the curb weight includes 130 lbs of fuel. If car is weighed with only 3/4 of a tank of fuel, weight will be 33 lbs less, and at half a tank of fuel, 65 lbs less.
Z51 adds a lot of stuff and thus weight over the base car, including the dry sump system with tank and extra oil, the diff cooler and plumbing lines and duct, the transmission cooler and plumbing lines and duct, the eLSD, bigger rotors front and rear, bigger calipers front and rear, bigger wheels front and rear, bigger tires front and rear, larger spoiler, sway bars. It would be amazing if all those extras only added 60 lbs.
Car and Driver C7 Z51 M7 weight: 3444 lbs
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...he-dash-page-3
Fuel capacity is 18.5 gallons which weighs about 7 lbs per gallon, so the curb weight includes 130 lbs of fuel. If car is weighed with only 3/4 of a tank of fuel, weight will be 33 lbs less, and at half a tank of fuel, 65 lbs less.
Z51 adds a lot of stuff and thus weight over the base car, including the dry sump system with tank and extra oil, the diff cooler and plumbing lines and duct, the transmission cooler and plumbing lines and duct, the eLSD, bigger rotors front and rear, bigger calipers front and rear, bigger wheels front and rear, bigger tires front and rear, larger spoiler, sway bars. It would be amazing if all those extras only added 60 lbs.
#15
Assuming the magazines are weighing a 3LT M7 Z51 with mag dampers, they all report about the same weight, slightly higer than mine which is the same except with the 1LT trim level. Here is another road test with the Z51 at 3,443 lbs.
http://www.edmunds.com/chevrolet/cor...son-test1.html
This Z51 at 3469 lbs
http://fastestlaps.com/cars/chevrole..._stingray.html
Motor trend has it at 3444 lbs
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...s/viewall.html
and some good info here on weight of components for the C7 vs C6 and why the car gained weight. Base dry weight is 3160 lbs to which you add 138 lbs for fluids and curb weight is 3298 lbs.
http://www.edmunds.com/chevrolet/cor...son-test1.html
This Z51 at 3469 lbs
http://fastestlaps.com/cars/chevrole..._stingray.html
Motor trend has it at 3444 lbs
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...s/viewall.html
and some good info here on weight of components for the C7 vs C6 and why the car gained weight. Base dry weight is 3160 lbs to which you add 138 lbs for fluids and curb weight is 3298 lbs.
#16
Team Owner
That would be stunning if the mag dampers add 94 lbs (3444 lbs less 3350 lbs).
Car and Driver C7 Z51 M7 weight: 3444 lbs
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...he-dash-page-3
Fuel capacity is 18.5 gallons which weighs about 7 lbs per gallon, so the curb weight includes 130 lbs of fuel. If car is weighed with only 3/4 of a tank of fuel, weight will be 33 lbs less, and at half a tank of fuel, 65 lbs less.
Z51 adds a lot of stuff and thus weight over the base car, including the dry sump system with tank and extra oil, the diff cooler and plumbing lines and duct, the transmission cooler and plumbing lines and duct, the eLSD, bigger rotors front and rear, bigger calipers front and rear, bigger wheels front and rear, bigger tires front and rear, larger spoiler, sway bars. It would be amazing if all those extras only added 60 lbs.
Car and Driver C7 Z51 M7 weight: 3444 lbs
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...he-dash-page-3
Fuel capacity is 18.5 gallons which weighs about 7 lbs per gallon, so the curb weight includes 130 lbs of fuel. If car is weighed with only 3/4 of a tank of fuel, weight will be 33 lbs less, and at half a tank of fuel, 65 lbs less.
Z51 adds a lot of stuff and thus weight over the base car, including the dry sump system with tank and extra oil, the diff cooler and plumbing lines and duct, the transmission cooler and plumbing lines and duct, the eLSD, bigger rotors front and rear, bigger calipers front and rear, bigger wheels front and rear, bigger tires front and rear, larger spoiler, sway bars. It would be amazing if all those extras only added 60 lbs.
Plus some of your facts are wrong the rear rotors are actually lighter and the same size on the rear of the Z51.
Mag tests are all LOADED cars not the same each level weighs more.
Last edited by 3 Z06ZR1; 01-19-2015 at 03:32 PM.