C7 LT1 Cam - how do I choose?
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C7 LT1 Cam - how do I choose?
After months of trying to convince myself to supercharge my 2014 C7 Z51 M7, I've landed on heads/cam.
But how to choose the cam? There are very few grinds published that I can see (with the exception of Comp Cams XFI DOD-compatible cams). There are some dyno charts from some of the vendors but again hard to compare without grinds.
I get why vendors aren't releasing exact grinds publicly and I don't expect them to.
But what are the general parameters for lift, duration and lobe separation for stage 1 vs. 2 vs. 3 on an LT1? How does adding heads affect the choice if at all?
I'm looking for drivability without sacrificing low end, but adding some mid-range and top end. Other mods will include heads, LT headers, and Halltech CAI. I don't need DOD.
Given my goals and bolt ons, what's the best stage for me? I'm thinking fairly mild and just trying to ballpark this a bit. Any thoughts and advice appreciated!
But how to choose the cam? There are very few grinds published that I can see (with the exception of Comp Cams XFI DOD-compatible cams). There are some dyno charts from some of the vendors but again hard to compare without grinds.
I get why vendors aren't releasing exact grinds publicly and I don't expect them to.
But what are the general parameters for lift, duration and lobe separation for stage 1 vs. 2 vs. 3 on an LT1? How does adding heads affect the choice if at all?
I'm looking for drivability without sacrificing low end, but adding some mid-range and top end. Other mods will include heads, LT headers, and Halltech CAI. I don't need DOD.
Given my goals and bolt ons, what's the best stage for me? I'm thinking fairly mild and just trying to ballpark this a bit. Any thoughts and advice appreciated!
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My advice, don't worry about peak HP numbers, think hard about your lope tolerance.
How averse are you to the characteristics of overlap? Rough idle, smellier idle (but a good tune can mitigate a lot), fluctuations in RPM and ability to catch idle reliably, etc.
I'm a huge fan of small cams in cars driven on the street. If it's a track only car then spec the cam for your specific purpose. Get a stage 1, imo.
Heads are debatable on stock cubes....15-20 HP.
Make sure you find a tuner that knows how to tune the E92 ECM. Where do you live?
How averse are you to the characteristics of overlap? Rough idle, smellier idle (but a good tune can mitigate a lot), fluctuations in RPM and ability to catch idle reliably, etc.
I'm a huge fan of small cams in cars driven on the street. If it's a track only car then spec the cam for your specific purpose. Get a stage 1, imo.
Heads are debatable on stock cubes....15-20 HP.
Make sure you find a tuner that knows how to tune the E92 ECM. Where do you live?
#3
After months of trying to convince myself to supercharge my 2014 C7 Z51 M7, I've landed on heads/cam.
But how to choose the cam? There are very few grinds published that I can see (with the exception of Comp Cams XFI DOD-compatible cams). There are some dyno charts from some of the vendors but again hard to compare without grinds.
I get why vendors aren't releasing exact grinds publicly and I don't expect them to.
But what are the general parameters for lift, duration and lobe separation for stage 1 vs. 2 vs. 3 on an LT1? How does adding heads affect the choice if at all?
I'm looking for drivability without sacrificing low end, but adding some mid-range and top end. Other mods will include heads, LT headers, and Halltech CAI. I don't need DOD.
Given my goals and bolt ons, what's the best stage for me? I'm thinking fairly mild and just trying to ballpark this a bit. Any thoughts and advice appreciated!
But how to choose the cam? There are very few grinds published that I can see (with the exception of Comp Cams XFI DOD-compatible cams). There are some dyno charts from some of the vendors but again hard to compare without grinds.
I get why vendors aren't releasing exact grinds publicly and I don't expect them to.
But what are the general parameters for lift, duration and lobe separation for stage 1 vs. 2 vs. 3 on an LT1? How does adding heads affect the choice if at all?
I'm looking for drivability without sacrificing low end, but adding some mid-range and top end. Other mods will include heads, LT headers, and Halltech CAI. I don't need DOD.
Given my goals and bolt ons, what's the best stage for me? I'm thinking fairly mild and just trying to ballpark this a bit. Any thoughts and advice appreciated!
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After months of trying to convince myself to supercharge my 2014 C7 Z51 M7, I've landed on heads/cam.
But how to choose the cam? There are very few grinds published that I can see (with the exception of Comp Cams XFI DOD-compatible cams). There are some dyno charts from some of the vendors but again hard to compare without grinds.
I get why vendors aren't releasing exact grinds publicly and I don't expect them to.
But what are the general parameters for lift, duration and lobe separation for stage 1 vs. 2 vs. 3 on an LT1? How does adding heads affect the choice if at all?
I'm looking for drivability without sacrificing low end, but adding some mid-range and top end. Other mods will include heads, LT headers, and Halltech CAI. I don't need DOD.
Given my goals and bolt ons, what's the best stage for me? I'm thinking fairly mild and just trying to ballpark this a bit. Any thoughts and advice appreciated!
But how to choose the cam? There are very few grinds published that I can see (with the exception of Comp Cams XFI DOD-compatible cams). There are some dyno charts from some of the vendors but again hard to compare without grinds.
I get why vendors aren't releasing exact grinds publicly and I don't expect them to.
But what are the general parameters for lift, duration and lobe separation for stage 1 vs. 2 vs. 3 on an LT1? How does adding heads affect the choice if at all?
I'm looking for drivability without sacrificing low end, but adding some mid-range and top end. Other mods will include heads, LT headers, and Halltech CAI. I don't need DOD.
Given my goals and bolt ons, what's the best stage for me? I'm thinking fairly mild and just trying to ballpark this a bit. Any thoughts and advice appreciated!
Last edited by Kip Fabre; 01-22-2015 at 03:50 PM.
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We offer a few different choices for the LT1, but does depend on your car and what you are looking for.
We have three very popular choices in stock. We have tested 20-30 different grinds to get what we think are the best choices.
We can get you into the Heads/Cam package that best fits your needs. We can also do New Cylinder heads or port your existing ones to save you some money.
Give us a call and we can go over your options.
TSP
512-863-0900
We have three very popular choices in stock. We have tested 20-30 different grinds to get what we think are the best choices.
We can get you into the Heads/Cam package that best fits your needs. We can also do New Cylinder heads or port your existing ones to save you some money.
Give us a call and we can go over your options.
TSP
512-863-0900
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All good information, thanks. Sounds like I need to work with my shop (down in Calgary) and a vendor to get to the right grind for my set up, and tuning is the trick.
My car is a somewhat a daily driver (nice days) and sounds like mild is the way to go.
Will mild be easier to tune?
My car is a somewhat a daily driver (nice days) and sounds like mild is the way to go.
Will mild be easier to tune?
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All good information, thanks. Sounds like I need to work with my shop (down in Calgary) and a vendor to get to the right grind for my set up, and tuning is the trick.
My car is a somewhat a daily driver (nice days) and sounds like mild is the way to go.
Will mild be easier to tune?
My car is a somewhat a daily driver (nice days) and sounds like mild is the way to go.
Will mild be easier to tune?
I have no affiliation with them.
Their site also has dyno's of all their different cam profiles.
https://www.texas-speed.com/c-2848-camshafts.aspx
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After months of trying to convince myself to supercharge my 2014 C7 Z51 M7, I've landed on heads/cam.
But how to choose the cam? There are very few grinds published that I can see (with the exception of Comp Cams XFI DOD-compatible cams). There are some dyno charts from some of the vendors but again hard to compare without grinds.
I get why vendors aren't releasing exact grinds publicly and I don't expect them to.
But what are the general parameters for lift, duration and lobe separation for stage 1 vs. 2 vs. 3 on an LT1? How does adding heads affect the choice if at all?
I'm looking for drivability without sacrificing low end, but adding some mid-range and top end. Other mods will include heads, LT headers, and Halltech CAI. I don't need DOD.
Given my goals and bolt ons, what's the best stage for me? I'm thinking fairly mild and just trying to ballpark this a bit. Any thoughts and advice appreciated!
But how to choose the cam? There are very few grinds published that I can see (with the exception of Comp Cams XFI DOD-compatible cams). There are some dyno charts from some of the vendors but again hard to compare without grinds.
I get why vendors aren't releasing exact grinds publicly and I don't expect them to.
But what are the general parameters for lift, duration and lobe separation for stage 1 vs. 2 vs. 3 on an LT1? How does adding heads affect the choice if at all?
I'm looking for drivability without sacrificing low end, but adding some mid-range and top end. Other mods will include heads, LT headers, and Halltech CAI. I don't need DOD.
Given my goals and bolt ons, what's the best stage for me? I'm thinking fairly mild and just trying to ballpark this a bit. Any thoughts and advice appreciated!
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After months of trying to convince myself to supercharge my 2014 C7 Z51 M7, I've landed on heads/cam.
But how to choose the cam? There are very few grinds published that I can see (with the exception of Comp Cams XFI DOD-compatible cams). There are some dyno charts from some of the vendors but again hard to compare without grinds.
I get why vendors aren't releasing exact grinds publicly and I don't expect them to.
But what are the general parameters for lift, duration and lobe separation for stage 1 vs. 2 vs. 3 on an LT1? How does adding heads affect the choice if at all?
I'm looking for drivability without sacrificing low end, but adding some mid-range and top end. Other mods will include heads, LT headers, and Halltech CAI. I don't need DOD.
Given my goals and bolt ons, what's the best stage for me? I'm thinking fairly mild and just trying to ballpark this a bit. Any thoughts and advice appreciated!
But how to choose the cam? There are very few grinds published that I can see (with the exception of Comp Cams XFI DOD-compatible cams). There are some dyno charts from some of the vendors but again hard to compare without grinds.
I get why vendors aren't releasing exact grinds publicly and I don't expect them to.
But what are the general parameters for lift, duration and lobe separation for stage 1 vs. 2 vs. 3 on an LT1? How does adding heads affect the choice if at all?
I'm looking for drivability without sacrificing low end, but adding some mid-range and top end. Other mods will include heads, LT headers, and Halltech CAI. I don't need DOD.
Given my goals and bolt ons, what's the best stage for me? I'm thinking fairly mild and just trying to ballpark this a bit. Any thoughts and advice appreciated!
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Drifting
Centri's are great on the track and even a car on modest 7-8 psi would roast a heads/cam car any rack that I can think of. I compared the two cost-wise because in the OP's first sentence of his OP he states that he has decided on "heads/cam". You are going to pay $4500 for heads/cam with installation, which isn't that far from what blower kits are selling for installed. Blowers are far more fun on the street too
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Centri's are great on the track and even a car on modest 7-8 psi would roast a heads/cam car any rack that I can think of. I compared the two cost-wise because in the OP's first sentence of his OP he states that he has decided on "heads/cam". You are going to pay $4500 for heads/cam with installation, which isn't that far from what blower kits are selling for installed. Blowers are far more fun on the street too
NA baby, that is the way to go on the track. How many racing cars do you see competing with Centrifigal Superchargers, I can't think of one, much less a roots supercharger.
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I have a Centri on my M3, and it is a complete nightmare on the track. You can do about 4 laps before your car is heat soaked and losing power, and I have every cooling trick in the book on that car.
NA baby, that is the way to go on the track. How many racing cars do you see competing with Centrifigal Superchargers, I can't think of one, much less a roots supercharger.
NA baby, that is the way to go on the track. How many racing cars do you see competing with Centrifigal Superchargers, I can't think of one, much less a roots supercharger.
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Centri's are great on the track and even a car on modest 7-8 psi would roast a heads/cam car any rack that I can think of. I compared the two cost-wise because in the OP's first sentence of his OP he states that he has decided on "heads/cam". You are going to pay $4500 for heads/cam with installation, which isn't that far from what blower kits are selling for installed. Blowers are far more fun on the street too
#18
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Did you checkout the tsp grinds? We have engine dyno data for all the tsp grinds! Did you check them out?
We have heads/cam packages starting at $2,000ish!!
We have heads/cam packages starting at $2,000ish!!
#19
Will you post the specs or show them on your website?
#20
Melting Slicks
If I wanted to do just a mild cam, long tubes, CAI, and ported TB, what would expect to pick up for HP and TQ? Thanks, Doug