Factory offers tune without loss of warranty
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Factory offers tune without loss of warranty
That's right, but it's not GM, it's from FORD. As mentioned in the Motor Trend article linked below, Ford is providing a performance tune option for it's Eco-boost powered cars, and if installed by the dealer it does not void the factory warranty! I'll admit, I am a Chevy guy all the way (my new Z06 gets built next week) but this is the kind of thinking that seems far from anything GM would do.
Come on GM, lets see some performance options out of you that doesn't void the warranty. Do some engineering testing and pick up some of the money that goes into aftermarkets hands. Harley Davidson figured it out, and made a killing. Now Ford is stepping up making them look like a company that has the performance image. I'm not holding my breath. It's likely I'll have to wait until the Warranty is up before thinking about any significant performance mods for my Z06.
http://wot.motortrend.com/1412_ford_...4_engines.html
Come on GM, lets see some performance options out of you that doesn't void the warranty. Do some engineering testing and pick up some of the money that goes into aftermarkets hands. Harley Davidson figured it out, and made a killing. Now Ford is stepping up making them look like a company that has the performance image. I'm not holding my breath. It's likely I'll have to wait until the Warranty is up before thinking about any significant performance mods for my Z06.
http://wot.motortrend.com/1412_ford_...4_engines.html
#2
Le Mans Master
It's genius really! It's basically just a marked-up Diablo InTune or Cobb Accessport with staged upgrades and [reduced] warranty coverage; definitively worth the extra few bucks. I'm looking forward to see how the three compare on an otherwise stock vehicle. Here's my guess in terms of power output:
#1: Cobb
#2: Diablo
#3: Ford (safe bet to say theirs will be the most conservative)
#1: Cobb
#2: Diablo
#3: Ford (safe bet to say theirs will be the most conservative)
Last edited by Kracka; 01-16-2015 at 10:01 AM.
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That's right, but it's not GM, it's from FORD. As mentioned in the Motor Trend article linked below, Ford is providing a performance tune option for it's Eco-boost powered cars, and if installed by the dealer it does not void the factory warranty! I'll admit, I am a Chevy guy all the way (my new Z06 gets built next week) but this is the kind of thinking that seems far from anything GM would do.
Come on GM, lets see some performance options out of you that doesn't void the warranty. Do some engineering testing and pick up some of the money that goes into aftermarkets hands. Harley Davidson figured it out, and made a killing. Now Ford is stepping up making them look like a company that has the performance image. I'm not holding my breath. It's likely I'll have to wait until the Warranty is up before thinking about any significant performance mods for my Z06.
http://wot.motortrend.com/1412_ford_...4_engines.html
Come on GM, lets see some performance options out of you that doesn't void the warranty. Do some engineering testing and pick up some of the money that goes into aftermarkets hands. Harley Davidson figured it out, and made a killing. Now Ford is stepping up making them look like a company that has the performance image. I'm not holding my breath. It's likely I'll have to wait until the Warranty is up before thinking about any significant performance mods for my Z06.
http://wot.motortrend.com/1412_ford_...4_engines.html
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Team Owner
Like Diablo said, nothing new. Ford has been doing that since ~2007ish. Same with all the other nice Ford Racing parts they make. Upgraded axles, rear ends, exhaust, intakes, etc. They really support the enthusiast. That being said, the ford racing parts are generally just aftermarket stuff, rebadged and marked up, so you are just paying extra for the ford name and warranty part.
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Ha, typical. Subaru does the same thing with their SPT parts (Exedy clutches, Eibach lowering springs, etc.).
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I'm sure it's more likely to be offered on vehicles that are not near the limit of performance stock. There is plenty of overhead to bump the performance without causing undue stress on the powertrain.
It's less likely we'd see these types of Factory performance upgrades on the high end vehicles, such as Corvettes, GT350, Hellcat etc.
It's less likely we'd see these types of Factory performance upgrades on the high end vehicles, such as Corvettes, GT350, Hellcat etc.
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I'm sure it's more likely to be offered on vehicles that are not near the limit of performance stock. There is plenty of overhead to bump the performance without causing undue stress on the powertrain.
It's less likely we'd see these types of Factory performance upgrades on the high end vehicles, such as Corvettes, GT350, Hellcat etc.
It's less likely we'd see these types of Factory performance upgrades on the high end vehicles, such as Corvettes, GT350, Hellcat etc.
The Ford Racing axles are just Gforce Axles
Catbacks are Borla typically
Blower kits are just whipples with ford racing logo, etc.
#10
BMW and Dinan, do this as well, but they actually engineer the products largely and don't resell other people's equipment.
#11
Drifting
Now, in all fairness, I also owned a 2013 Mustang GT manual and noticed a bit of difference. About .2 quicker in the quarter mile.
If you read the ad for the Pro-Cal that was in the Ford Performance catalog, it mentioned how great it was removing torque management, etc. This led me to believe that for the auto it would do wonders. All it proved to me is that Ford had some graduate from some highly rated university doing it's ads. All style, very little substance.
Either way, I'll go with the Diablo vs. anything similar to the Ford Pro-Cal that Chevy or GM could market.
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#13
Drifting
I don't think GM will offer a tune. Don't you think they spent 1,000's of hours perfecting the tune. They could be leaving some room on the table to boost HP and sales in future year models. It's been standard practice.
BTW, If you blow your engine and have a tune on it. Good luck thinking you can erase it and file a warrantee claim... There is a footprint left behind in the firmware that is traceable. Not trying to spook, just keeping it real.
BTW, If you blow your engine and have a tune on it. Good luck thinking you can erase it and file a warrantee claim... There is a footprint left behind in the firmware that is traceable. Not trying to spook, just keeping it real.
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I don't think GM will offer a tune. Don't you think they spent 1,000's of hours perfecting the tune. They could be leaving some room on the table to boost HP and sales in future year models. It's been standard practice.
BTW, If you blow your engine and have a tune on it. Good luck thinking you can erase it and file a warrantee claim... There is a footprint left behind in the firmware that is traceable. Not trying to spook, just keeping it real.
BTW, If you blow your engine and have a tune on it. Good luck thinking you can erase it and file a warrantee claim... There is a footprint left behind in the firmware that is traceable. Not trying to spook, just keeping it real.
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I get what you're saying. Let me rephrase... Corvette worked hard to get the tune where THEY want it for whatever the reason(s). These engineers are quite sharp! I'd venture to say their weakest man is equal to some of the best tuners in the free world. But don't get bogged down on that concept... The point is, there is a method to their madness and I doubt we will ever see a factory tune option that compromises their goals.
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I get what you're saying. Let me rephrase... Corvette worked hard to get the tune where THEY want it for whatever the reason(s). These engineers are quite sharp! I'd venture to say their weakest man is equal to some of the best tuners in the free world. But don't get bogged down on that concept... The point is, there is a method to their madness and I doubt we will ever see a factory tune option that compromises their goals.
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The turbo engine lend themselves more to this kind of thing from what I see. If you can always use 93 or higher octane gas a tune will achieve great results. My DD is a focus ST that I have a cobb tuner but the tune is from a 3rd party. I have a 93 octane and an E30 tune. The difference from stock and the E30 tune is amazing. Because I went this route if I had an issue I'd remove the tune before bringing the car in as yes this version could void the warranty if they could prove the tune caused the failure.
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The turbo engine lend themselves more to this kind of thing from what I see. If you can always use 93 or higher octane gas a tune will achieve great results. My DD is a focus ST that I have a cobb tuner but the tune is from a 3rd party. I have a 93 octane and an E30 tune. The difference from stock and the E30 tune is amazing. Because I went this route if I had an issue I'd remove the tune before bringing the car in as yes this version could void the warranty if they could prove the tune caused the failure.