C6 Z06 LS7 vs C7 LT1
#21
Do you really need to do a head up race? A simple google search will get you plenty of examples of stock 1/4 mile et and trap speeds for both. Sure altitude, temp and track temp will play a role but take an average of 5 or 6 will get you close... My search shows neither car will blow the doors off the other.
Wide range of et/mph for both car. As stated, altitude, temp ...ect
The two cars are close.
Wide range of et/mph for both car. As stated, altitude, temp ...ect
The two cars are close.
I don't need to google anything. I've owned both cars, I know which is faster in stock form.
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Do you really need to do a head up race? A simple google search will get you plenty of examples of stock 1/4 mile et and trap speeds for both. Sure altitude, temp and track temp will play a role but take an average of 5 or 6 will get you close... My search shows neither car will blow the doors off the other.
Wide range of et/mph for both car. As stated, altitude, temp ...ect
The two cars are close.
Wide range of et/mph for both car. As stated, altitude, temp ...ect
The two cars are close.
#23
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I wasnt questioning which is faster in a stock forum, the Z06 would win hands down. MY questions is with headers and E85, I believe I should be able to outrun a STOCK Z06.
Re-cape:
Stock Z06 vs Headers/E85 Stingray
Who would win?
Re-cape:
Stock Z06 vs Headers/E85 Stingray
Who would win?
#24
Z-06... With traction. Can the Z-06 run drag radials?
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C6Z - 11.10 @ 125 (on avg)
C7 - 11.50 @ 120 (on avg)
Difference .4 and 5 MPH (40-50 HP)
C6Z - 505 HP
C7 - 460 HP
Difference (45 HP)
Stock C7 - 415 rwhp
Yours with headers and E85 - 473 rwhp
Gain - 58 rwhp
So it comes down to shifting and tires
#26
Driver's race with the equal driver situation going to the E85/header C7
C6Z - 11.10 @ 125 (on avg)
C7 - 11.50 @ 120 (on avg)
Difference .4 and 5 MPH (40-50 HP)
C6Z - 505 HP
C7 - 460 HP
Difference (45 HP)
Stock C7 - 415 rwhp
Yours with headers and E85 - 473 rwhp
Gain - 58 rwhp
So it comes down to shifting and tires
C6Z - 11.10 @ 125 (on avg)
C7 - 11.50 @ 120 (on avg)
Difference .4 and 5 MPH (40-50 HP)
C6Z - 505 HP
C7 - 460 HP
Difference (45 HP)
Stock C7 - 415 rwhp
Yours with headers and E85 - 473 rwhp
Gain - 58 rwhp
So it comes down to shifting and tires
#27
Drifting
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Driver's race with the equal driver situation going to the E85/header C7
C6Z - 11.10 @ 125 (on avg)
C7 - 11.50 @ 120 (on avg)
Difference .4 and 5 MPH (40-50 HP)
C6Z - 505 HP
C7 - 460 HP
Difference (45 HP)
Stock C7 - 415 rwhp
Yours with headers and E85 - 473 rwhp
Gain - 58 rwhp
So it comes down to shifting and tires
C6Z - 11.10 @ 125 (on avg)
C7 - 11.50 @ 120 (on avg)
Difference .4 and 5 MPH (40-50 HP)
C6Z - 505 HP
C7 - 460 HP
Difference (45 HP)
Stock C7 - 415 rwhp
Yours with headers and E85 - 473 rwhp
Gain - 58 rwhp
So it comes down to shifting and tires
I shift like a mad man ( I like to tell myself ). I hope I can get a chance to make it happen before I get to many more mods
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In my opinion you're a little light on your Z-06 rwhp guesstimate. I've seen them go from low 440's to as high as 460's bone stock. Those are rev happy motors too, so with all this taken into account, I'd still put my money on the Z-06. I respect the op's numbers as they are quite impressive, but still not gonna take a properly driven Z-06.
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In my opinion you're a little light on your Z-06 rwhp guesstimate. I've seen them go from low 440's to as high as 460's bone stock. Those are rev happy motors too, so with all this taken into account, I'd still put my money on the Z-06. I respect the op's numbers as they are quite impressive, but still not gonna take a properly driven Z-06.
No matter how you slice it, 45 HP and 200 lbs separate the two cars when stock. That is like 65 HP. If you bump the C7 by 58 rwhp, that is about 65 bhp. Now you have a driver's race.
#31
That's fine, just going by google searches on C6Z06 rwhp. Sure there are factory freak cars and some in the 10's as well, but most run low to mid 11's, not that much faster than a C7.....
No matter how you slice it, 45 HP and 200 lbs separate the two cars when stock. That is like 65 HP. If you bump the C7 by 58 rwhp, that is about 65 bhp. Now you have a driver's race.
No matter how you slice it, 45 HP and 200 lbs separate the two cars when stock. That is like 65 HP. If you bump the C7 by 58 rwhp, that is about 65 bhp. Now you have a driver's race.
#32
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If you look at the dyno chart I provided, down low, i'm making a much healthier power curve, we are all talking peak power here, which is only relevant until after 5250 rpms. the LT1 with my mods when compared to the Z06 and a tune, makes 25 more HP and 50 more tq the whole power band under 5250 rpms. That's a HUGE difference. only when we get after that point does the LS7 start to pull out a higher peak number.
These LT1's are really crazy different motors when it comes to early power, which I think would really help in the quarter mile, but not as much in a roll race.
These LT1's are really crazy different motors when it comes to early power, which I think would really help in the quarter mile, but not as much in a roll race.
#33
If you look at the dyno chart I provided, down low, i'm making a much healthier power curve, we are all talking peak power here, which is only relevant until after 5250 rpms. the LT1 with my mods when compared to the Z06 and a tune, makes 25 more HP and 50 more tq the whole power band under 5250 rpms. That's a HUGE difference. only when we get after that point does the LS7 start to pull out a higher peak number.
These LT1's are really crazy different motors when it comes to early power, which I think would really help in the quarter mile, but not as much in a roll race.
These LT1's are really crazy different motors when it comes to early power, which I think would really help in the quarter mile, but not as much in a roll race.
#34
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See that's where you and I differ on opinion as to which car would win the short race... The LS7 comes alive in the upper rpm range, which coupled with the lighter weight of the car will accelerate more quickly off the line... And as you know, the car which gets out front the quickest is the hardest to catch.
Crazy to think how a motor designed in 04-05 is still so powerful over 10 years later
#35
I have shaved some weight on the Stingray, I think based on some other people with my mods trapping 127-129mph, that it would be a drivers race from a roll. from a dig, the LT1 has a large advantage with early power being much more usable.
Crazy to think how a motor designed in 04-05 is still so powerful over 10 years later
Crazy to think how a motor designed in 04-05 is still so powerful over 10 years later
#36
I'll run my Cammed C51 against Z06's this weekend at Road America. Camming this car makes the dyno much more like a Z06 pulling hard all the way up to 660 rpm.
I'm making 500whp on a Mustang, this thing should pull Z06's down the straights at Road America no problem.
I'm making 500whp on a Mustang, this thing should pull Z06's down the straights at Road America no problem.
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That'll be interesting... Keep us posted.
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I dont think anyone is saying otherwise. We are comparing a C7 with headers and E85 to a stock C6Z. Also a 6.2 vs 7.0 though, so that makes it even more cooler to me.