Set me straight on aftermarket wheel options
05-15-2015, 03:17 PM
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Set me straight on aftermarket wheel options
I was getting different answers so I figured you guys can tell me the correct answer. For my 15 Z51 A8 stingray I eventually wanted to get new rims with wider tires. Ideally I wanted something similiar to the C6 Z06/GS size. I know those wheels will not work on my car due to offsets but can I get aftermarket wheels in those sizes with new tires??
I eventualy will do the ECS kit and at the same time I wanted new rims and rubber. I know Ben from WeaponX has that 375 tire set up but that is a bit much for me. I was looking for sizes in the C6Z or C7Z tire size to keep handling and also improve traction. I called Ben but got his voicemail
I eventualy will do the ECS kit and at the same time I wanted new rims and rubber. I know Ben from WeaponX has that 375 tire set up but that is a bit much for me. I was looking for sizes in the C6Z or C7Z tire size to keep handling and also improve traction. I called Ben but got his voicemail
05-15-2015, 05:41 PM
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I don't have any voice message from you 
I can do a nice 325 or in also doing the Z06 335 on a set right now too on some brand new C7 max concave wheels too. Let me know!
I can do a nice 325 or in also doing the Z06 335 on a set right now too on some brand new C7 max concave wheels too. Let me know!
05-15-2015, 06:00 PM
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Hi Ben!! I called 614 489 8360 the # on your website under contact us. Is that wrong?? Said google suscriber. Will those wheels and tires fit my car without any cutting or any issues?? The fenders are wide enough??
05-15-2015, 06:13 PM
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05-16-2015, 01:06 AM
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05-16-2015, 10:10 AM
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If you want wheels that will fit without rubbing no matter where you set your suspension, what kind of roads you drive on, or how you drive then get some Forgelines (or other custom....REAL custom wheels) from Ben.
If you want something that may or may not rub depending on conditions, get a TSW or the like.
If you want something that may or may not rub depending on conditions, get a TSW or the like.
05-16-2015, 11:13 AM
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05-16-2015, 11:14 AM
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No matter what you read the TSW's don't fit these cars correctly. I had a set, as well as other people have had sets of them... Custom forged wheels with proper offsets make the difference. They look better, fit better, and definitely don't rub. I'm down all the way on stock bolts and have a 305 Drag Radials on my car and zero problems rubbing!
05-19-2015, 07:47 AM
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I'm running the 375 setup with HRE P40SC and mine only rubbed once when my fat *** dad was in the passenger seat. 
kidding... They don't rub.
You won't be getting any traction what so ever with a 375/20/21 in the rear. I sure don't.
kidding... They don't rub.You won't be getting any traction what so ever with a 375/20/21 in the rear. I sure don't.
05-19-2015, 07:50 AM
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Lawerence you're running 19/20 right? I may need to do something similar when it comes down to taking my car to The runway rivals next year. So I can put something sticky out back.
No matter what you read the TSW's don't fit these cars correctly. I had a set, as well as other people have had sets of them... Custom forged wheels with proper offsets make the difference. They look better, fit better, and definitely don't rub. I'm down all the way on stock bolts and have a 305 Drag Radials on my car and zero problems rubbing!
05-19-2015, 12:44 PM
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Use this tire/wheel size calculator to help you understand all the dynamics involved in selecting a wheel and tire size:
http://www.rimsntires.com/specspro.jsp
Put in stock sized wheels and tires (front then rear) on the left side, then the play with the right side based on your desired tire or wheel size preferences. Pay close attention to the bottom left schematic as this will show you the deltas for the OEM setup versus your new desired setup. The great thing about this calculator is it will show you mounting deltas from the furthest point outboard and inboard, whether that be the tire or the wheel that is sticking out the furthest (wheel being the furthest only applicable on pretty stretched tires, so not a possibility here).
As the C7 rear wheels are concerned:
When using this calculator, understand that on the C7 guys begin to rub or not rub (varies by ride height, suspension geometry setup, car tolerance etc etc) typically around the 10mm to 14mm range of the furthest outboard (tire or wheel)from the OEM setup.
So with the TSW guys, they are around 20mm outboard as the wheel goes, however since a 285/35/19 tire has a less protruding sidewall on a 19x10.5 than the stock 285/30/20 on a 19x10, then at the furthest point (the tires) the TSW actually sticks out about 14mm further than stock, tire to tire, which seems to rub for some guys and others don't.
The guys that are running the cast XO Veronas (20x11 et.73) with OEM 285/30/20's (even those lowered to max on stock bolts, factory camber specs) are not rubbing at all. There are quite a few guys running this setup, and none have complained of rubbing, even when asked. For reference, with the XO setup mentioned above, the wheel would be around 18-19mm more outboard than stock but you would be 6mm outboard from stock setup at the furthest point (the tires). However, if you put a 305/30/20 on the same wheel, you would be 16mm outboard now from stock (at the furthest point, the tires) and would probably rub, definitely lowered, if some guys are already rubbing at 14mm outboard.
Hope this helps. It is good to learn this stuff, especially when ordering custom wheels so as to not rely on the manufacturer for proper offsets (as seen with TSW for instance) and know exactly what you are getting.
http://www.rimsntires.com/specspro.jsp
Put in stock sized wheels and tires (front then rear) on the left side, then the play with the right side based on your desired tire or wheel size preferences. Pay close attention to the bottom left schematic as this will show you the deltas for the OEM setup versus your new desired setup. The great thing about this calculator is it will show you mounting deltas from the furthest point outboard and inboard, whether that be the tire or the wheel that is sticking out the furthest (wheel being the furthest only applicable on pretty stretched tires, so not a possibility here).
As the C7 rear wheels are concerned:
When using this calculator, understand that on the C7 guys begin to rub or not rub (varies by ride height, suspension geometry setup, car tolerance etc etc) typically around the 10mm to 14mm range of the furthest outboard (tire or wheel)from the OEM setup.
So with the TSW guys, they are around 20mm outboard as the wheel goes, however since a 285/35/19 tire has a less protruding sidewall on a 19x10.5 than the stock 285/30/20 on a 19x10, then at the furthest point (the tires) the TSW actually sticks out about 14mm further than stock, tire to tire, which seems to rub for some guys and others don't.
The guys that are running the cast XO Veronas (20x11 et.73) with OEM 285/30/20's (even those lowered to max on stock bolts, factory camber specs) are not rubbing at all. There are quite a few guys running this setup, and none have complained of rubbing, even when asked. For reference, with the XO setup mentioned above, the wheel would be around 18-19mm more outboard than stock but you would be 6mm outboard from stock setup at the furthest point (the tires). However, if you put a 305/30/20 on the same wheel, you would be 16mm outboard now from stock (at the furthest point, the tires) and would probably rub, definitely lowered, if some guys are already rubbing at 14mm outboard.
Hope this helps. It is good to learn this stuff, especially when ordering custom wheels so as to not rely on the manufacturer for proper offsets (as seen with TSW for instance) and know exactly what you are getting.
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05-19-2015, 01:42 PM
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05-19-2015, 01:55 PM
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05-19-2015, 02:02 PM
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Figure out what you want and need diameter and width wise and take a look at forgestar wheels. They have some pretty good options and you can get them in almost any offset you want. Cheap way to get a "custom" wheel.
05-19-2015, 02:17 PM
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I know what I want because it's pretty simple. I want to fit C6 Z06 size tires on my car. To do so I will go with the forgelines and have ben put together a package for me with a good tire. I don't want something that can't be driven in rain or 50 degree weather because my car is kind of a road trip car. Plenty of times I will probably be caught in the rain. No drag radials or tire that kills handling.
05-19-2015, 05:30 PM
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But in the OP's case, if he wants to go with a 12" wide wheel for a 325 wide tire or greater, he will need extremely high offsets to clear the fenders. If he wants a 325 on a 12" wide wheel, the offsets will most likely have to be somewhere in the +90's at least for the tire to clear the fenders and avoid any rubbing I would guess.
Forgestar wheels don't offer a 12" wide wheel with the high offsets he needs. You can customize to the mm with Forgestar, but only within certain ranges.
Custom forged is the way to go for his needs unless another flow formed wheel will offer that high in offsets...but I doubt it.
05-19-2015, 05:34 PM
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Typically a good route to take if you want to customize without the high price. That or the new HRE flow formed line.
But in the OP's case, if he wants to go with a 12" wide wheel for a 325 wide tire or greater, he will need extremely high offsets to clear the fenders. If he wants a 325 on a 12" wide wheel, the offsets will most likely have to be somewhere in the +90's at least for the tire to clear the fenders and avoid any rubbing I would guess.
Forgestar wheels don't offer a 12" wide wheel with the high offsets he needs. You can customize to the mm with Forgestar, but only within certain ranges.
Custom forged is the way to go for his needs unless another flow formed wheel will offer that high in offsets...but I doubt it.
But in the OP's case, if he wants to go with a 12" wide wheel for a 325 wide tire or greater, he will need extremely high offsets to clear the fenders. If he wants a 325 on a 12" wide wheel, the offsets will most likely have to be somewhere in the +90's at least for the tire to clear the fenders and avoid any rubbing I would guess.
Forgestar wheels don't offer a 12" wide wheel with the high offsets he needs. You can customize to the mm with Forgestar, but only within certain ranges.
Custom forged is the way to go for his needs unless another flow formed wheel will offer that high in offsets...but I doubt it.
05-19-2015, 05:43 PM
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Oh ok well I don't want to be difficult lol So with forgestar can I get a set up that allows be to comfortably run a 305 in the rear with no rubbing?? I'm guessing with high horsepower cars its not just the size of the tire but more importantly the quality of the rubber. Hellcats come with 275 wide tires lol