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Changing LT1 fuel pump to LT4 Z06 fuel pump

Old 06-23-2015, 10:35 PM
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Does this change my horsepower Levels with supercharger without using meth

Was just planing to use e85 and ecs supercharger + cam will the z06 fuel pump make this happen or do I have to go coustom
Old 06-23-2015, 10:59 PM
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With cam and zo6 pump on e85 I'd say close to 700rwhp is possible.

I even venture to say with a cam if you simply increase pressure to around 20mpa you could see the same output as above
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Originally Posted by T/A KID
With cam and zo6 pump on e85 I'd say close to 700rwhp is possible.

I even venture to say with a cam if you simply increase pressure to around 20mpa you could see the same output as above
I want more room to work with later so I figure the z06 pump will leave me lotta room and later down the road to add more boost am I on the right track or no
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The stock pump produces 2100 PSI. The Z06 pump produces 2900 PSI. However, you still need to get more fuel to either if you are going to run E-85. That means you may need to install the LPFP (Low Pressure Fuel Pump) from the Z06 in your tank. Also, you may need to use the larger DI injectors from the Z06 to keep your car from running lean and burning holes in your pistons.

My tuner who tuned my EB Flex which also has DI, told me that to have a reliable and safe E-85 engine, that I needed to increase my fuel system capacity by 50%.

Spraying methanol will help if you use 100%. Also, using a Kenne Bell Boost-A-Pump will help your stock LPFP provide some additional fuel volume. How it does this is to run your stock pump at faster speeds to push more fuel.

Ford in their EcoBoost Racing engines (also to be used in their new Ford GT) use a combination of DI and port injection, so that they can get enough fuel to provide reliable 600 hp from the 3.5 DI engine.
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Originally Posted by EcoBrick Bob
The stock pump produces 2100 PSI. The Z06 pump produces 2900 PSI. However, you still need to get more fuel to either if you are going to run E-85. That means you may need to install the LPFP (Low Pressure Fuel Pump) from the Z06 in your tank. Also, you may need to use the larger DI injectors from the Z06 to keep your car from running lean and burning holes in your pistons.

My tuner who tuned my EB Flex which also has DI, told me that to have a reliable and safe E-85 engine, that I needed to increase my fuel system capacity by 50%.

Spraying methanol will help if you use 100%. Also, using a Kenne Bell Boost-A-Pump will help your stock LPFP provide some additional fuel volume. How it does this is to run your stock pump at faster speeds to push more fuel.

Ford in their EcoBoost Racing engines (also to be used in their new Ford GT) use a combination of DI and port injection, so that they can get enough fuel to provide reliable 600 hp from the 3.5 DI engine.
So we're do I get this pump ill tell u exactly what I wanna run ecs supercharger cam and e85 I want around 700+ to the wheels also want the car to have more room
Old 06-24-2015, 08:23 AM
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The pump can be purchased from the dealer or through any number of parts houses. Shop around, They can be had for $750-800 all day long (Retail for over $1200 I think). My local dealer hooked me up pretty good. I have already installed a couple of them.
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Originally Posted by Seannyc
So we're do I get this pump ill tell u exactly what I wanna run ecs supercharger cam and e85 I want around 700+ to the wheels also want the car to have more room
You really need to talk to a shop that has built LT1 DI engines to the 800 HP range. Even if you add the LT4 DI Pump and LT4 injectors, you need to add a bigger Low Pressure Fuel Pump in your gas tank. I'm not sure that the in tank one in the Z06 is big enough to safely run E-85. You may also need to go to forged pistons. If this engine runs lean, the stock pistons can easily be damaged.

The best thing you can do is read everything written on getting 700+ HP and more safely with this DI engine. Currently there is a thread on the new forged pistons available. I would start there. You can also do a "search" for other threads on these topics.
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Originally Posted by EcoBrick Bob
You really need to talk to a shop that has built LT1 DI engines to the 800 HP range. Even if you add the LT4 DI Pump and LT4 injectors, you need to add a bigger Low Pressure Fuel Pump in your gas tank. I'm not sure that the in tank one in the Z06 is big enough to safely run E-85. You may also need to go to forged pistons. If this engine runs lean, the stock pistons can easily be damaged.

The best thing you can do is read everything written on getting 700+ HP and more safely with this DI engine. Currently there is a thread on the new forged pistons available. I would start there. You can also do a "search" for other threads on these topics.
alright thanks for helping
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What is the flow rate for the LT4 injectors and the rated PSI?
Old 06-24-2015, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by EcoBrick Bob
The stock pump produces 2100 PSI. The Z06 pump produces 2900 PSI.
I am an old school guy looking for an education, what mechanisms are inside a fuel pump that can reliably generate 2900 PSI ?

Thanks >>>> Inthered
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Originally Posted by INTHERED
I am an old school guy looking for an education, what mechanisms are inside a fuel pump that can reliably generate 2900 PSI ?

Thanks >>>> Inthered
Same technology that has been running Diesel engines for countless years.
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Originally Posted by SquatchMachining
The pump can be purchased from the dealer or through any number of parts houses. Shop around, They can be had for $750-800 all day long (Retail for over $1200 I think). My local dealer hooked me up pretty good. I have already installed a couple of them.
What's the price on the installation if u don't mind
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Originally Posted by Seannyc
What's the price on the installation if u don't mind


I did the work myself and the work was for friends as well as my personal vehicle. No cost.. Beer...


Not sure what a shop would charge to do it, its not a difficult job.
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Originally Posted by Seannyc
What's the price on the installation if u don't mind
From what I hear its a 12 - 14 hr job to drop the tank and install the low pressure pump.
Old 06-25-2015, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by EcoBrick Bob

Ford in their EcoBoost Racing engines (also to be used in their new Ford GT) use a combination of DI and port injection, so that they can get enough fuel to provide reliable 600 hp from the 3.5 DI engine.
We have something that will allow that to happen on LT-1 cars very very soon, thanks to our LT-4 project we did.
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So not considering running E85, is there a low pressure pump available right now that will work with the Z06 pump?
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the LT4 injectors are around 20% larger than LT1. I want to say its 110~lb/hr vs 140~ lb/hr

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Old 06-29-2015, 07:11 AM
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I guess it's just hard to make this car run e85 and a super charger I no this would make the car very strong I'm willing to change the Pistons and fuel pumps and injectors
Old 06-29-2015, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Louis Gigliotti
the LT4 injectors are around 20% larger than LT1. I want to say its 110~lb/hr vs 140~ lb/hr
Truck 6.2L - 118.7 lb/hr
Truck 5.3L - 96.5
C7 Vette - 121.1
C7Z06 - 140.7
Old 06-29-2015, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson
Truck 6.2L - 118.7 lb/hr
Truck 5.3L - 96.5
C7 Vette - 121.1
C7Z06 - 140.7
there we go. thanks.

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