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Old 07-15-2015, 02:41 AM
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Default Looking for advice on centrifugal Superchargers

I think my mind is made up on putting a centrifugal supercharger on my 2016 Stingray when it arrives. There are numerous choices, anyone care to offer advice. I see comments about noisy blow off valves, burning oil smells, overheating etc. Anyone care to share their experiences, good or bad? Sounds like A+A and ECS are the best choices. How about Procharger? Appreciate the help.
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Before anyone eats you alive, here's a good (recent) thread that will give you a good amount of information about your different centrifugal supercharging choices:

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...g-options.html
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I have a P1sc1 on mine and it's nice. Car like stock till about 3500 then it comes alive. Better have it pointed in the right direction cuz she's covering some ground. I'm running some meth to because Alaska only get 90 octane here. Put Down 603hp with headers and x pipe. The headers dropped the boost down to 5psi so I'm going with a smaller pulley to get it up to the 7psi the system runs when there is stock manifolds on the motor. Should be around 650 rwhp.
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Originally Posted by xcpilot
I think my mind is made up on putting a centrifugal supercharger on my 2016 Stingray when it arrives. There are numerous choices, anyone care to offer advice. I see comments about noisy blow off valves, burning oil smells, overheating etc. Anyone care to share their experiences, good or bad? Sounds like A+A and ECS are the best choices. How about Procharger? Appreciate the help.
I think you may be reading the issue of high fan noise with overheating. I do not think anyone with any kit is overheating. The fan cycle is different to keep the cooling system in check, big difference between the two.

My T-stat from Summit will be here today and we'll see what that does for the fan noise.

The oil odor can be fixed with a catch can at about $1,000...in a week of driving I may notice it once or twice. There are reasons it happens and none of them are really bad.

BOV the noise is your choice, you can get loud, quieter, or dead silent.

I was told by another vendor that the ECS kit was also the quietest SC head unit which was very important to me and except for a light whistle at idle which is hard to hear there is no mechanical noise at all.
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Originally Posted by xcpilot
I think my mind is made up on putting a centrifugal supercharger on my 2016 Stingray when it arrives. There are numerous choices, anyone care to offer advice. I see comments about noisy blow off valves, burning oil smells, overheating etc. Anyone care to share their experiences, good or bad? Sounds like A+A and ECS are the best choices. How about Procharger? Appreciate the help.

Feel free to give us a call if you would like to speak in depth as to why we feel we have the most complete, properly put together, most components included, and highest TQ per HP centrifugal supercharger kit on the market today.
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Originally Posted by xcpilot
I think my mind is made up on putting a centrifugal supercharger on my 2016 Stingray when it arrives. There are numerous choices, anyone care to offer advice. I see comments about noisy blow off valves, burning oil smells, overheating etc. Anyone care to share their experiences, good or bad? Sounds like A+A and ECS are the best choices. How about Procharger? Appreciate the help.
I had a procharger installed this spring. it took my 2014 z51 m7, to a whole new level. I did not do headers or any thing else- just the procharger and the intercooler. stock my car was making 434 hp to the rear wheels on test day. after the install it did 610 hp to the rear wheels. under 3500 rpm the car acts very stock with no jerky starts. another thing I really appreciate is how quiet the unit is at idle. I'm very happy.
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My advice is don't get one. Next thing you know, you will be building the engine, buying rims/drag radials and a bunch of other stupid stuff
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We would love to answer any questions you have, having done many forced induction C7's we can give you sound advice on the system that best works for you and go over each offering out there and the pro's and con's of each.
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Originally Posted by Bucknut2006
My advice is don't get one. Next thing you know, you will be building the engine, buying rims/drag radials and a bunch of other stupid stuff
interestingly i was just in Bowling Green this weekend. Factory tour/track etc.(drove the car 1400 miles in 4 days!) during the tour i struck up a nice conversation with engineering student who was our guide. we visited for some time about the attributes of the engine and how well it takes to supercharging. later in the day i had several factory folks look at the installation- all thumbs up. prior to my purchase i also toured the Procharger headquarters in KC. a super nice group with a lot of science behind their product.
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I had a procharger installed this spring. it took my 2014 z51 m7, to a whole new level. I did not do headers or any thing else- just the procharger and the intercooler. stock my car was making 434 hp to the rear wheels on test day. after the install it did 610 hp to the rear wheels. under 3500 rpm the car acts very stock with no jerky starts. another thing I really appreciate is how quiet the unit is at idle. I'm very happy.
That is very interesting. I have not seen many 600hp cars with only a supercharger. I hope to get there too.
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Originally Posted by Joe@CPR
We would love to answer any questions you have, having done many forced induction C7's we can give you sound advice on the system that best works for you and go over each offering out there and the pro's and con's of each.
Hi Joe
I have a home in Scottsdale so my plan is to drive the car down from Canada this fall and leave it there for the winter. I will give you a call so we can discuss what my options are.
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Hi Joe
I have a home in Scottsdale so my plan is to drive the car down from Canada this fall and leave it there for the winter. I will give you a call so we can discuss what my options are.
Sounds like a solid plan sir!
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Originally Posted by xcpilot
Hi Joe
I have a home in Scottsdale so my plan is to drive the car down from Canada this fall and leave it there for the winter. I will give you a call so we can discuss what my options are.

You would be in good hands with Joe! BTW, any of the supercharger kits can make 610 blower only, it's just not advisable IMHO without meth injection. Not enough octane in pump gas to consistently support it.
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Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
Feel free to give us a call if you would like to speak in depth as to why we feel we have the most complete, properly put together, most components included, and highest TQ per HP centrifugal supercharger kit on the market today.
3 mods for ~700 RWHP and the car still feels like it did before until you get into boost. Then, hold on!





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He Doug how much power are you guys getting out of a6 auto z51 with headers,blower,meth?? Very interested
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I have a 2014 m7 z51. And love my procharger. I have a f1a. And I think I currently hold the boost only stock shortblock record on pump gas and meth.. no nitrous. Made 908/867.


There's plenty of other on here with high hp c7 builds, vengeance, joe, ecs, procharger...

Send me a pm and il answer any questions you may have.

P.s. I honestly think ecs, procharger and A&A are all great kits, as I have buddies with c5, c6 and c7s, with different blower setups.. there all fun..

P.s. I really think the procharger setup has a really easy pulley/belt swap setup




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I'm curious, have any of the 3 mod 700+/- ECS cars dyno'd on any other dynojet or mustang? I see so many varying numbers with blower/meth/headers making 40-70 more whp than other centri blowers, meth'd, headers AND a cam. I don't understand the vast disparities.

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Originally Posted by BooSSted
I'm curious, have any of the 3 mod 700+/- ECS cars dyno'd on any other dynojet or mustang? I see so many varying numbers with blower/meth/headers making 40-70 more whp than other centri blowers, meth'd, headers AND a cam. I don't understand the vast disparities.
That's kind of hard unless you dynoed the car on both types with premod/postmod in the same weather. Both tuners would also have to tune it similarly.

With the 3 mods on Doug @ ECS's dynapack mine put out 730/640 with 13 lbs. It was really cold that day and snowing with temps about freezing in Jersey.

Then the internals were forged by Vengeance Racing plus a pulley down (+other mods). On Mike's dynojet we hit 840/750 with close to 14 lbs. This was a on really hot and humid Atlanta day.

Taking the car to ECS for some scheduled maintenance in the next few weeks and will hopefully have Doug take it on the Dynapack just for sng.

Have np sharing the results as the Stingray is a blast to drive (Doug and Mikes mods) if not downright terrifying at higher boost levels.

I should qualify that further by saying it not scary in the sense that it's unpredictable. It has excellent street manners. ECS and Vengeance Racing have really nailed that formula down
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That's kind of hard unless you dynoed the car on both types with premod/postmod in the same weather. Both tuners would also have to tune it similarly.

With the 3 mods on Doug @ ECS's dynapack mine put out 730/640 with 13 lbs. It was really cold that day and snowing with temps about freezing in Jersey.

Then the internals were forged by Vengeance Racing plus a pulley down (+other mods). On Mike's dynojet we hit 840/750 with close to 14 lbs. This was a on really hot and humid Atlanta day.

Taking the car to ECS for some scheduled maintenance in the next few weeks and will hopefully have Doug take it on the Dynapack just for sng.

Have np sharing the results as the Stingray is a blast to drive (Doug and Mikes mods) if not downright terrifying at higher boost levels.

I should qualify that further by saying it not scary in the sense that it's unpredictable. It has excellent street manners. ECS and Vengeance Racing have really nailed that formula down

Sick car you have man, I hope to follow your's and Theta's path haha...


My car has made 620+/- on several dynos on dyno days, and in between tuning. I'm not concerned on the net WHP gained I think that would be pretty constant across all dynos if they were to do a base and post install pull. My question is how is ECS blasting out 700whp cars with 3 mods; when there's cars getting cams and are 40-70whp down. (Only talking manual cars)


Essentially my question is has any ECS dyno'd car jumped on a dynojet or mustang etc...without further mods after the claimed 700+whp? I don't get to high on dyno numbers because so many variables can influence them.
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...if not downright terrifying at higher boost levels.
No, you had it right the first time - these things are sickeningly-fast past 5500 and 13-14psi.


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