GM working on advanced new cylinder deactivation system
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GM working on advanced new cylinder deactivation system
Imagine boosting fuel economy in a V-8-powered large SUV by as much as 21%. General Motors (GM) is currently working with Delphi Automotive, a major global automotive supplier and also a key GM supplier, to do just that. This significant fuel-economy improvement may be possible in the near future using a new technology that can deactivate most of an engine’s cylinders during highway cruising. At the same time, the new technology could reduce emissions by nearly the same percentage.
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St. Jude Donor '13-'14-'15
The current AFM or DOD system GM is using has been troublesome---They have had many lifter failures from deactivation-- Not only does it shut off the fuel to those cylinders and spark but also solenoids in the lifter valley shuts the oil OFF to the hydraulic lifters so the valves don't open or close-- This is where the problem occurs as lubrication is compromised in the lifter bores and the lifters break---
Reading the article I see that they have a valve train engineer involved which tells me they are trying to correct the failures--- and even attempting to shut more cylinders off.
Using today's technology in my opinion and shutting off even more cylinders would create even more chances of failures unless they find a way to prevent the lubrication problem---
Reading the article I see that they have a valve train engineer involved which tells me they are trying to correct the failures--- and even attempting to shut more cylinders off.
Using today's technology in my opinion and shutting off even more cylinders would create even more chances of failures unless they find a way to prevent the lubrication problem---
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My son's 09' G8 GT had a DOD failure at 26K and just before the 5 yr engine warranty expired. Realize there have been many advancements since then, but basic system is the same.
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Worst thing is these failures almost all happen after the warranty has expired !!!! so a full price on repairs--
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As a tuner I deal with almost all the performance shops in my immediate area as well as repair shops and even dealers--Of course GM would not let this cat out of the bag but I can tell you from talking to all my customers-- they have at least 1 LS based car or Silverado a week that has had lifter failures with DOD---It seems to be worse on heavier vehicles like trucks but I've seen several cars with similar issues--- Worst case scenario--complete engine refresh-- and best case an engine flush and all new lifters/solenoids----
Worst thing is these failures almost all happen after the warranty has expired !!!! so a full price on repairs--
Worst thing is these failures almost all happen after the warranty has expired !!!! so a full price on repairs--
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If you do a cam swap, keeping DoD is pure madness.
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I have a 2013 Silverado with a 6.2L and am starting to get lifter noise.
I also am not getting the milage that i was when new.
I think I better get it to the dealer quick.
I also am not getting the milage that i was when new.
I think I better get it to the dealer quick.
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DOD just does not belong on a Corvette
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We turn off the DoD function in our tunes, due to the reasons of failure listed above. (The customer is more then welcome to turn it back on if they wish) However no MPG reduction has been found by turning the DoD system off, but the piece of mind is high knowing its disabled.
ON A PERSONAL NOTE: I used to make good side money replacing failed lifters, cams, rockers, and engines in cars/trucks that suffered DoD related failures. I can't say what the true number of failures is, but I can say that I no lack of side work for a long while, till I finally just stopped doing them.
ON A PERSONAL NOTE: I used to make good side money replacing failed lifters, cams, rockers, and engines in cars/trucks that suffered DoD related failures. I can't say what the true number of failures is, but I can say that I no lack of side work for a long while, till I finally just stopped doing them.