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Old 12-14-2013, 01:22 PM
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GM will be using a 8 speed auto in the 2015 corvette. It can handle 725 ft/lb of torque.

Any guess or bets that the supercharged Z06 ( or Z07) might have this transmission ??

Seems likely that GM would now be able to offer an automatic for the high output Corvettes.


General Motors Rear Wheel Drive Eight Speed Automatic Transmission
Technical Paper
2014-04-01
James Michael Hart, Tejinder Singh, William Goodrich

General Motors Rear Wheel Drive Eight Speed Automatic Transmission General Motors shall introduce a new rear wheel drive eight speed automatic transmission, known as the 8L90, in the 2015 Chevrolet Corvette. The rated turbine torque capacity is 1000 Nm. This transmission replaces the venerable 6L80 six speed automatic transmission. The objectives behind creation of this transmission are improved fuel economy, performance, and NVH. Packaging in the existing vehicle architecture and high mileage dependability are the givens. The architecture is required to offer low cost for a rear drive eight speed transmission while meeting the givens and objectives. An eight speed powerflow, invented by General Motors, was selected. This powerflow yields a 7.0 overall ratio spread, enabling improved launch capability because of a deeper first gear ratio and better fuel economy due to lower top gear N/V capability, relative to the 6L80. The eight speed ratios are generated using four simple planetary gearsets, two brake clutches and three rotating clutches. The resultant on-axis transmission architecture utilizes a squashed torque converter, an off-axis pump and four close coupled gearsets. The three rotating clutches have been located forward of the gearsets to minimize the length of oil feeds which provides for enhanced shift response and simplicity of turbine shaft manufacturing. The transmission architecture features a case with integral bell housing for enhanced powertrain stiffness. A unique pump drive design allows for off-axis packaging very low in the transmission. The pump is a binary vane type which effectively allows for two pumps in the packaging size of one. This design and packaging strategy not only enables low parasitic losses and optimum priming capability but also provides for ideal oil routing to the controls system, with the pump located in the valve body itself. The transmission controller is externally mounted, enabling packaging and powertrain integration flexibilities. The controller makes use of three speed sensors which provide for enhanced shift response and accuracy. Utilization of aluminum and magnesium components throughout the transmission yields competitive mass. The dedicated compensator feed circuit, used in GM six speed designs, was supplanted by a lube-fed design in order to simplify oil routing and enhance shift response. Packaging is within that of the GM 6L80 design, allowing for ease of application integration. The overall result is a robust, compact, and cost effective transmission which offers significant fuel economy and performance benefit, over its six speed counterpart, and shall provide an attractive balance of overall metrics in the automatic transmission market.

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Originally Posted by kratedisease
GM will be using a 8 speed auto in the 2015 corvette. It can handle 725 ft/lb of torque.

Any guess or bets that the supercharged Z06 ( or Z07) might have this transmission ??

Seems likely that GM would now be able to offer an automatic for the high output Corvettes.


General Motors Rear Wheel Drive Eight Speed Automatic Transmission
Technical Paper
2014-04-01
James Michael Hart, Tejinder Singh, William Goodrich

General Motors Rear Wheel Drive Eight Speed Automatic Transmission General Motors shall introduce a new rear wheel drive eight speed automatic transmission, known as the 8L90, in the 2015 Chevrolet Corvette. The rated turbine torque capacity is 1000 Nm. This transmission replaces the venerable 6L80 six speed automatic transmission. The objectives behind creation of this transmission are improved fuel economy, performance, and NVH. Packaging in the existing vehicle architecture and high mileage dependability are the givens. The architecture is required to offer low cost for a rear drive eight speed transmission while meeting the givens and objectives. An eight speed powerflow, invented by General Motors, was selected. This powerflow yields a 7.0 overall ratio spread, enabling improved launch capability because of a deeper first gear ratio and better fuel economy due to lower top gear N/V capability, relative to the 6L80. The eight speed ratios are generated using four simple planetary gearsets, two brake clutches and three rotating clutches. The resultant on-axis transmission architecture utilizes a squashed torque converter, an off-axis pump and four close coupled gearsets. The three rotating clutches have been located forward of the gearsets to minimize the length of oil feeds which provides for enhanced shift response and simplicity of turbine shaft manufacturing. The transmission architecture features a case with integral bell housing for enhanced powertrain stiffness. A unique pump drive design allows for off-axis packaging very low in the transmission. The pump is a binary vane type which effectively allows for two pumps in the packaging size of one. This design and packaging strategy not only enables low parasitic losses and optimum priming capability but also provides for ideal oil routing to the controls system, with the pump located in the valve body itself. The transmission controller is externally mounted, enabling packaging and powertrain integration flexibilities. The controller makes use of three speed sensors which provide for enhanced shift response and accuracy. Utilization of aluminum and magnesium components throughout the transmission yields competitive mass. The dedicated compensator feed circuit, used in GM six speed designs, was supplanted by a lube-fed design in order to simplify oil routing and enhance shift response. Packaging is within that of the GM 6L80 design, allowing for ease of application integration. The overall result is a robust, compact, and cost effective transmission which offers significant fuel economy and performance benefit, over its six speed counterpart, and shall provide an attractive balance of overall metrics in the automatic transmission market.
For the Corvette, the new 8L90 fitting in the same box as the old 6L80 transmission, is a huge benefit.
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Originally Posted by kratedisease
GM will be using a 8 speed auto in the 2015 corvette. It can handle 725 ft/lb of torque.
Old news...
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Originally Posted by Silverblue
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TRUE, old news, BUT my posting the announcement of the 8 speed transmission is NOT what this thread is about....

I am asking if anyone thinks it will be put in the the C7 supercharged Z06 model since it can handle 725ft/lbs torque ....

Opinions anyone ? anyone suspect it Z06 supercharged will offer this automatic since it has the ability to handle the torque ??


Any ideas ??
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Originally Posted by kratedisease
TRUE, old news, BUT my posting the announcement of the 8 speed transmission is NOT what this thread is about....

I am asking if anyone thinks it will be put in the the C7 supercharged Z06 model since it can handle 725ft/lbs torque ....

Opinions anyone ? anyone suspect it Z06 supercharged will offer this automatic since it has the ability to handle the torque ??


Any ideas ??
You should probably post this in the Z06 section then
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The biggest problem with getting an auto in a C7 Z06......my wife would have to drive the fast car (faster than my 427 Vert).
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The Detroit Auto show is only a few weeks away, then you'll know.
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Originally Posted by jschindler
The Detroit Auto show is only a few weeks away, then you'll know.
Amen.
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Originally Posted by kratedisease
TRUE, old news, BUT my posting the announcement of the 8 speed transmission is NOT what this thread is about....

I am asking if anyone thinks it will be put in the the C7 supercharged Z06 model since it can handle 725ft/lbs torque ....

Opinions anyone ? anyone suspect it Z06 supercharged will offer this automatic since it has the ability to handle the torque ??


Any ideas ??
Then why didn't you post this in the Z06 section ?
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Originally Posted by MikeyTX
Then why didn't you post this in the Z06 section ?
Originally Posted by sajonf
You should probably post this in the Z06 section then
Agreed - and moved.
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Isn't anyone going to question the "supercharged" Z06 statement?
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I think having a Z06 with an auto would take away from the allure of figuring out the car. I guess some guys prefer it, but not me.
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what I want to know is how much these new age fancy overly-complex transmissions will cost to repair/replace once warranty is expired...SEE GT-R...
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I will say the GTR trans makes everyone happy. If you see one launch it will make you happy just like the driver. When it breaks Nissan is very happy to hit you for over 10k to replace it!I can see GM using an auto in the Z06, it's all about sales
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Originally Posted by Paulchristian
what I want to know is how much these new age fancy overly-complex transmissions will cost to repair/replace once warranty is expired...SEE GT-R...
Are you planning on keeping it past 100k miles ?
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Originally Posted by ByByBMW
Isn't anyone going to question the "supercharged" Z06 statement?

I take it you have details to the contrary?

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Originally Posted by OnPoint
I take it you have details to the contrary?
Has he ever?
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Originally Posted by MikeyTX
Are you planning on keeping it past 100k miles ?
I'd like to know I could...without the cost of the transmission approaching the entire value of the car...
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Originally Posted by OnPoint
I take it you have details to the contrary?
As many supporting my side as he has..
Originally Posted by rcallen484
Has he ever?
And what prompted your response?

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