Top Reasons Z06 will be well under $90k
01-11-2014, 10:35 AM
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01-11-2014, 10:46 AM
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01-11-2014, 11:26 AM
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I think the car will come in under $80K (but probably JUST under!). To do that, I think they will do things like having steel brakes standard, CC's optional (Porsche does it!), Cup tires optional, etc.
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01-11-2014, 12:17 PM
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Have you all been in touch with what MRSP prices were on the C6 Z06's. My 2010 2LZ window sticker shows 81,500. A 2011 or newer Z07 equipped Z06 sticker was right around $92k to $98 depending on options. What makes you think that this C7 Z06 is going to be priced significantly cheaper. Look at the trend of corvette pricing since 1997. Every year model corvette has gone up in price. The C5 Z06 was MRSP in the mid $50K. The C6 Z06 was upper $70 to low $80's. And now everyone thinks you are going to get all this technology for the same price. Good Luck. 
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01-11-2014, 12:25 PM
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#2 is true...excruciatingly true and GM knows this. I have never considered a Corvette before this generation due to the fact that at that price point I can have German quality and performance in so many varieties the mind nearly boggles at the possibilities. For the everyman/woman $75k for an automobile is a very large investment in something that depreciates the second you drive it off the lot. We can't all drive Ferrari's and many people resign themselves to the knowledge that they will likely never know what it's like to own such cars. As a fun little game, name as many cars that GM sells in 2014 over $75k. Now name as many European cars that fit the same criteria. See...it's plain to most people that when you start talking about cars over $50k people think BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, and Audi...not to mention any other marques with exotics and such. Hell even Japan isn't really a force in the $75k plus market...the only car currently selling over $75k out of Japan is the GT-R as the LFA has sold out.
It is a much harder sell for GM to convince the person with $75k to spend it on a GM product over the European options. Look how poorly the Viper is doing, America needs to establish itself as a car manufacturer that can compete with the Europeans as far as ACTUAL quality and PERCEIVED quality and they are going to have to do this at a lower price point at first. GM has done well with Cadillac, but comparing a Cadillac to a Mercedes, the Mercedes is still perceived as the premier marque.
#5 is also very true...one look at Corvette ZR1 and Viper sales figures paints a pretty bleak picture, while Porsche has no trouble selling every one of it's GT3's or Turbo's at far higher prices. The C7 is a step in the right direction, but once again perceived quality is what is holding American cars back.
Last but not least #6 is the truest statement in the entire list. GM wants this car to sell, they want to get as many out there into the hands of people. They are not going to limit production on the Z06, if you want one and have the money they will build it. Corvette has never been meant for rich people, from the very first it was meant to be competitive with European exotics while still being attainable by the average working adult. The Z06 when introduced in the C5 generation was actually affordable, then the C6 Z06 came out and due to the necessity of so many alterations to the C6 to become a Z06 the price became much more out of reach for many people. The Z06's fully optioned out in Z07 and Carbon packages were coveted by many, but in the end were pretty limited in number sold compared to base Z06's. Then theres the ZR1, a truly remarkable car that out priced it's demand. If GM hasn't learned anything from this i would be surprised..
It is a much harder sell for GM to convince the person with $75k to spend it on a GM product over the European options. Look how poorly the Viper is doing, America needs to establish itself as a car manufacturer that can compete with the Europeans as far as ACTUAL quality and PERCEIVED quality and they are going to have to do this at a lower price point at first. GM has done well with Cadillac, but comparing a Cadillac to a Mercedes, the Mercedes is still perceived as the premier marque.
#5 is also very true...one look at Corvette ZR1 and Viper sales figures paints a pretty bleak picture, while Porsche has no trouble selling every one of it's GT3's or Turbo's at far higher prices. The C7 is a step in the right direction, but once again perceived quality is what is holding American cars back.
Last but not least #6 is the truest statement in the entire list. GM wants this car to sell, they want to get as many out there into the hands of people. They are not going to limit production on the Z06, if you want one and have the money they will build it. Corvette has never been meant for rich people, from the very first it was meant to be competitive with European exotics while still being attainable by the average working adult. The Z06 when introduced in the C5 generation was actually affordable, then the C6 Z06 came out and due to the necessity of so many alterations to the C6 to become a Z06 the price became much more out of reach for many people. The Z06's fully optioned out in Z07 and Carbon packages were coveted by many, but in the end were pretty limited in number sold compared to base Z06's. Then theres the ZR1, a truly remarkable car that out priced it's demand. If GM hasn't learned anything from this i would be surprised..
Perhaps in some areas of the Country people think German cars are the sh*t. They probably think the neighborhood down the street from their Trailer Homes are the sh*t too and Grey Poupon is really fancy as well lol.
If you're (you in general) praying the Z06 is priced as lowest as possible so you can afford one then that's fine, but don't put down the car to justify it! The car has it's place with many other high-line cars in the World.
01-11-2014, 12:57 PM
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Have you all been in touch with what MRSP prices were on the C6 Z06's. My 2010 2LZ window sticker shows 81,500. A 2011 or new Z07 equipped Z06 sticker was right around $92k to $98 depending on options. What makes you think that this C7 Z06 is going to be priced significantly cheaper. Look at the trend of corvette pricing since 1997. Every year model corvette has gone up in price. The C5 Z06 was MRSP in the mid $50K. The C6 Z06 was upper $70 to low $80's. And now everyone thinks you are going to get all this technology for the same price. Good Luck.
Even at 89k, it still undercuts the Viper and GTR by 10k and regardless of those cars, it's still a fraction of other supercars.
People say the won't buy it but what choice will they have? A 400hp Carerra? Brand new, there is no other choice even remotely close to the same performance without going much higher.
01-11-2014, 01:23 PM
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01-11-2014, 03:07 PM
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I agree. With all the options, it will be $90k-$100K, but the entry price will be much lower. Lower than $80K. My 09 Z06 had an entry MSRP of $72,405 + $850 destination. With options, my Z06 had a total MSRP of $80,015, but I could have purchased a 09 Z06 for the entry price of $73,255, with no options.
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01-11-2014, 03:55 PM
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OP had some real good points
I agree with almost all that he says.
Please look at history.
The best C6 Z06s were between 2011 and 2013.
Sorry for the guys that bought the earlier years but that is a fact.
Those that bought early in the cycle get the thrill of being the first guys with the hot ticket car but they lose out on late improvements and pay more.
Again that is just the facts.
My 2011 Z06/0z07 listed at $88,850 and I got it for $78,000.
The exact same thing will happen with this model.
You can bet on it.
So either wait and enjoy your current Vette or wait in line and pay either full sticker and maybe more, and then crap your pants for the next 3 years as the car gets better and better.
Your choice.
Please look at history.
The best C6 Z06s were between 2011 and 2013.
Sorry for the guys that bought the earlier years but that is a fact.
Those that bought early in the cycle get the thrill of being the first guys with the hot ticket car but they lose out on late improvements and pay more.
Again that is just the facts.
My 2011 Z06/0z07 listed at $88,850 and I got it for $78,000.
The exact same thing will happen with this model.
You can bet on it.
So either wait and enjoy your current Vette or wait in line and pay either full sticker and maybe more, and then crap your pants for the next 3 years as the car gets better and better.
Your choice.
01-11-2014, 04:10 PM
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I agree. I don't understand how people can even suggest a price at or lower than the current Z. The C7 is certainly going to be more.
Even at 89k, it still undercuts the Viper and GTR by 10k and regardless of those cars, it's still a fraction of other supercars.
People say the won't buy it but what choice will they have? A 400hp Carerra? Brand new, there is no other choice even remotely close to the same performance without going much higher.
Even at 89k, it still undercuts the Viper and GTR by 10k and regardless of those cars, it's still a fraction of other supercars.
People say the won't buy it but what choice will they have? A 400hp Carerra? Brand new, there is no other choice even remotely close to the same performance without going much higher.
01-11-2014, 05:17 PM
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LOL at the people in this thread come Monday. 75K for a Z28 and 79K for a Z06
01-11-2014, 05:31 PM
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01-11-2014, 05:34 PM
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1. Pricing the Z06 at $100k leaves open a $40,000 window of opportunity for the Z51 aftermarket.
2. When people see prices above $75,000 they are thinking Mercedes and Porsche, not Chevrolet.
3. A $90,000 car is not one that Chevy can sell a lot of. Look at the ZR1 sales figures compared to the C6 Z06.
4. There is no possible way that the Z06 could cost GM $30,000 more than a Z51, even with Supercharger, DCT, and liberal use of carbon fiber (which is already in use in the Z51), a material that GM can now source for far cheaper than it could even 5 years ago. These are not exotic components.
5. A 911 Carrera S and Nissan GT-R both have base prices right around $100,000. The number of people who would spend that kind of money on a Corvette than either of those cars is excruciatingly small.
6. The Corvette is the working man's car. GM wants this vehicle accessible to people who aren't millionaires.
7. The base price of the standard Corvette went up a whopping $2000 from 2013 to 2014 when there was clearly a ton of new technology built into the 2014 car. Why would the Z06 be any different?
As I have said before in other threads, I would bet real money this car will be priced right around $78k and might be optioned up to $90k for the full leather treatment. As is typical with GM, the car will within 6 months be sold for chunks off MSRP and by winter 2015 they will be sitting on lots and dealers will be begging you to come take them off their hands. Used ones will be had for the $60k range with low LOW miles and that is when the smart money will come grab one up.
2. When people see prices above $75,000 they are thinking Mercedes and Porsche, not Chevrolet.
3. A $90,000 car is not one that Chevy can sell a lot of. Look at the ZR1 sales figures compared to the C6 Z06.
4. There is no possible way that the Z06 could cost GM $30,000 more than a Z51, even with Supercharger, DCT, and liberal use of carbon fiber (which is already in use in the Z51), a material that GM can now source for far cheaper than it could even 5 years ago. These are not exotic components.
5. A 911 Carrera S and Nissan GT-R both have base prices right around $100,000. The number of people who would spend that kind of money on a Corvette than either of those cars is excruciatingly small.
6. The Corvette is the working man's car. GM wants this vehicle accessible to people who aren't millionaires.
7. The base price of the standard Corvette went up a whopping $2000 from 2013 to 2014 when there was clearly a ton of new technology built into the 2014 car. Why would the Z06 be any different?
As I have said before in other threads, I would bet real money this car will be priced right around $78k and might be optioned up to $90k for the full leather treatment. As is typical with GM, the car will within 6 months be sold for chunks off MSRP and by winter 2015 they will be sitting on lots and dealers will be begging you to come take them off their hands. Used ones will be had for the $60k range with low LOW miles and that is when the smart money will come grab one up.
01-11-2014, 05:37 PM
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Current Z06(2013) has a MSRP of $75,600 + $975 destination charge. My 09 Z06 had a MSRP of $72,405 + $850 destination charge. MSRP went up $3,320 over a five year span. That is for a base Z06 with zero options(AKA entry level). Why do you feel that a two year span(2013 to 2015) of the Z06 will have a huge jump in the MSRP?
I think it's also worth noting that the increase you mentioned was within the same generation. This is a completely new and far better model relative to the dollar so I don't think you can use the same thought process. Bigger jumps happen from generation to generation; small increases happen throughout the product cycle.
01-11-2014, 05:39 PM
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Current Z06(2013) has a MSRP of $75,600 + $975 destination charge. My 09 Z06 had a MSRP of $72,405 + $850 destination charge. MSRP went up $3,320 over a five year span. That is for a base Z06 with zero options(AKA entry level). Why do you feel that a two year span(2013 to 2015) of the Z06 will have a huge jump in the MSRP?
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