slushbox supercar?
01-18-2014, 10:29 AM
#161
I'll test drive the new 8 speed automatic that the chief engineer of corvette says is equal to or better than the best the competition offers.
If he is correct...I'll buy...if not...then its M7 for me.
I'm betting the A8 transmission kicks @ss and takes no prisioners.
The corvette team always delivers when it comes to performance and feel.
I have confidence in their latest efforts.
The test drive will confirm my expectations ...or not..
Time will tell. So will track times they post up when the time comes.
I'm sure all hell will break loose on this forum when those track times hit. It always does and as usual corvette will be a winner.
So are we as customers..
If he is correct...I'll buy...if not...then its M7 for me.
I'm betting the A8 transmission kicks @ss and takes no prisioners.
The corvette team always delivers when it comes to performance and feel.
I have confidence in their latest efforts.
The test drive will confirm my expectations ...or not..
Time will tell. So will track times they post up when the time comes.
I'm sure all hell will break loose on this forum when those track times hit. It always does and as usual corvette will be a winner.
So are we as customers..
01-18-2014, 10:34 AM
#162
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01-18-2014, 11:54 AM
#163
Drive a true DCT car like an M3, M6, Porsche TT and you will realize how far superior they are to a torque converted autobox. There is no time between shifts at all because the gears overlap each other. One going out and one going in. I still prefer a 7 speed manual because it' more fun but GM should not embarrass themselves by putting a traditional auto in it.
I'll ask again: What is your experience in a C7 Z06 with A8?
01-18-2014, 12:04 PM
#164
Drive a true DCT car like an M3, M6, Porsche TT and you will realize how far superior they are to a torque converted autobox. There is no time between shifts at all because the gears overlap each other. One going out and one going in. I still prefer a 7 speed manual because it' more fun but GM should not embarrass themselves by putting a traditional auto in it.
01-18-2014, 12:39 PM
#165
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Drive a true DCT car like an M3, M6, Porsche TT and you will realize how far superior they are to a torque converted autobox. There is no time between shifts at all because the gears overlap each other. One going out and one going in. I still prefer a 7 speed manual because it' more fun but GM should not embarrass themselves by putting a traditional auto in it.
and that alone makes me suggest we not knock what we don't know. Traditionally the corvette team of engineers exceed performance of its competitors. I see no reason to expect anything less.
Makes sense to wait until any of us can actually test drive the car and hopefully we would and could get information on the new C7 A8 Z06 performs on a race course....
Everything else about corvette has been award winning for 2014...
I see very little reason to expect any less from new developments on the 2015 C7 and C7 Z06...
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01-18-2014, 01:48 PM
#166
Melting Slicks
Why wouldn't GM just put a DCT in the Z06 instead of trying to make it look like one? They are obviously embarrassed about this or they wouldn't try to make it look like a DCT. I don't get it...DCTs have all the benefits of a manual and automatic at the same time. Slushboxes don't belong in supercars, period.
01-18-2014, 04:01 PM
#167
Maybe... but they were talking upshifts. Downshifts are as (or more) important for track work and that wasn't mentioned. This is also where conventional autos historically suffered.
Having said that, we is a wait and see situation and I'm personally hopeful that ALL of the performance characteristics of the 8 speed will compare to DCT transmissions and not just the upshift speed.
02-08-2014, 02:52 PM
#168
Mercedes C63 AMG, Mercedes SL65 AMG. Hall Chaparrell. The pig is turning into a cheetah. It is not a dog but, in time, will eat the dog for lunch.
A 50 pound converter weighs less than the second wet clutch and gear set in a DCT.
The planetary gear set will always be lighter and more compact than the dual clutch kludge. Porsche runs a DCT because they can't build a good TC automatic, (see Servomatic, Tiptronic). Neither can Ferrari. They are much harder to design and build correctly than a DCT. That is why GM and ZF have been building autos for almost everybody else for years.
A 50 pound converter weighs less than the second wet clutch and gear set in a DCT.
The planetary gear set will always be lighter and more compact than the dual clutch kludge. Porsche runs a DCT because they can't build a good TC automatic, (see Servomatic, Tiptronic). Neither can Ferrari. They are much harder to design and build correctly than a DCT. That is why GM and ZF have been building autos for almost everybody else for years.
@dcbingaman Dude, save your strength. It's no use here. I gave up a long time ago. (See Prov 26:4)