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Old 01-14-2014, 05:20 PM   #1
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Chevrolet Corvette Chief Engineer Tadge Juechter has told Autoblog there are currently no plans to introduce a C7 Corvette ZR1. What a cop-out. This is almost as bad as hearing all future holidays are canceled. Here’s what Autoblog is reporting: “Introducing a ZR1 halo car above the upcoming Z06, which is due at the end […]

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As I said well before this article appeared......

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I think the Z07 version of the Z06 could be the ZR1 replacement for the C7 series. It may mean they will offer a different pulley w/programming upgrades, ect. to push the Z07 over the ZR1. Remember this is a car still in finalization and can still be tweaked before it starts selling early next year. It certainly would be more economical to GM not to produce a ZR1 since the C7 Z06/Z07 is already at a world class level imho.
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Chevrolet Corvette Chief Engineer Tadge Juechter has told Autoblog there are currently no plans to introduce a C7 Corvette ZR1. What a cop-out. This is almost as bad as hearing all future holidays are canceled. Here’s what Autoblog is reporting: “Introducing a ZR1 halo car above the upcoming Z06, which is due at the end […]

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He could have said, "And for all of you who might possibly be thinking of buying an optioned-out Z06/Z07 as soon as they become available, I advise you to wait for what we've got coming out later!"
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I bet something with turbos is coming in a few years.
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Old 01-14-2014, 05:34 PM   #5
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Read a statement from him saying that if sales aren't good enough, this will likely be the last Z06 as well. The sales have to be better or there won't be any big top dog style Vette a few years from now.

So, I don't doubt for a second we're not going to see a ZR1 for this gen car. If the sticker is pushing 100K for the base Z06 I wouldn't count against a mid-range car to fill the gap, but even that's going to be a stretch IMO.
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Old 01-14-2014, 05:48 PM   #6
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So, I don't doubt for a second we're not going to see a ZR1 for this gen car.
Agree.
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Chevrolet Corvette Chief Engineer Tadge Juechter has told Autoblog there are currently no plans to introduce a C7 Corvette ZR1. What a cop-out. This is almost as bad as hearing all future holidays are canceled. Here’s what Autoblog is reporting: “Introducing a ZR1 halo car above the upcoming Z06, which is due at the end […]

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Everyone understands that there are diminishing performance returns for the dollar. If they've already set their target at the price:performace sweet spot, it could start to get very expensive very quickly for consistently measurable gains.

Not many people are really truly aware of the emissions and safety requirements that the designers have to contend with. It wouldn't surprise me if they couldn't even make the old 2009 ZR1 as a 'new' model anymore.

I'm all for them investing in future achievable performance for the primary market that's 50-70k.
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The base car is getting expensive too. I feel they don't want to get too much over the 100k range.
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Old 01-14-2014, 07:18 PM   #9
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If GM wants to keep it at the Z06, I don't have an issue with that. But don't give us a BS answer that the car can't put out more performance. As they said in the article, there are Mustangs that put out over 600 and they cheaper than the Z06. Granted they wouldn't win in a race, I just saying the engine can do it.

Would it be over 100K, yes. But the ZR1 was already at 112K, and it sold, so whats the problem?
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Old 01-14-2014, 07:22 PM   #10
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Well no zr1, that's not cool... Wonder how they will sale the new z06 now that we know their game, just wait for the new c8 z51, it will be as fast or faster than the c7z06 for 30k less....
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If GM wants to keep it at the Z06, I don't have an issue with that. But don't give us a BS answer that the car can't put out more performance. As they said in the article, there are Mustangs that put out over 600 and they cheaper than the Z06. Granted they wouldn't win in a race, I just saying the engine can do it.

Would it be over 100K, yes. But the ZR1 was already at 112K, and it sold, so whats the problem?
500 cars a year is not selling....

They do NOT want to sell 500-1000 z06s.. they want to sell 8000+ I am sure... if they get higher in price it is just not an economically sustainable model. GM is not in it for the name. They are in it for the money 100%. If the car makes money they will keep it. If loosing the z06 looses overall $ earned, they will keep it. As simple as that.

But right now... a Z06 is a $100k car when the base model is 55k. In 2002 it was a $50k car. When the base model was 40k.

There is a huge difference now in price. That is why they say, that if the sales are not there (500 sales) then the Z06 is gone.

I feel that the Z06 is way over the top and I liked the distinction from the 2002... Lighter... a little more horsepower and that is it. But they want to compete with 150k up cars too. Viper is one of them. They are releasing the corvette z06 to finally beat the viper.
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It will come toward the end of the C7 lifecycle when C7 excitement has become non-existent.
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It will come toward the end of the C7 lifecycle when C7 excitement has become non-existent.
Non-existent excitement.....sounds boring...
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I bet something with turbos is coming in a few years.

There's still one thing left to supercharge: the LS7.

Not saying they will, but that would be one way to achieve 700 HP before going to turbos.
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There's still one thing left to supercharge: the LS7.

Not saying they will, but that would be one way to achieve 700 HP before going to turbos.
GM already tried that and the engine literally melted, that is why they went with the 6.2.
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GM already tried that and the engine literally melted, that is why they went with the 6.2.

When did that happen?
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Just wait. ZR1 is coming next. Sooner than later, but be prepared for a real supercar. Guessing $150,000+

Carbon fiber everywhere, yes everywhere. Many exotic changes, and power from hell and back.

Our ULZ715 will still hold an advantage over the ZR1 weight/power, but not by much.

That's all I can say.

In the meantime, the C7Z06 is a righteous Monster, but will be a heavyweight. Even with the Z07 package, which effectively does nothing to lighten the car, since the CCRs are offset by the wheel sizes.

Having said that, we are on the list #1 here in Wisconsin, so that means probably 1 to 2 months behind everywhere else, or likely Feb. 15.

I absolutely love the C7Z06 body style, and especially the front splitter.

The rear clear spoiler, not so much. Then there is always carbon fiber.
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It will come toward the end of the C7 lifecycle when C7 excitement has become non-existent.
The C6 carried a very long production run, as GM bankruptcy put real development of the C7 on the back burner. Once the excitement died down over the C6 Z06, the ZR1 was a way to continue the new, halo car excitement. The upside was that it is still an amazing super car that can compete with the best and the costliest. The downside over time was that there were still ideas from 2005 in a 2013 car.

If the C7 Z06 sells well enough and if C8 development progresses, there may not be a case for the ZR1...
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Just wait. ZR1 is coming next. Sooner than later, but be prepared for a real supercar. Guessing $150,000+

Carbon fiber everywhere, yes everywhere. Many exotic changes, and power from hell and back.

Our ULZ715 will still hold an advantage over the ZR1 weight/power, but not by much.

That's all I can say.

In the meantime, the C7Z06 is a righteous Monster, but will be a heavyweight. Even with the Z07 package, which effectively does nothing to lighten the car, since the CCRs are offset by the wheel sizes.

Having said that, we are on the list #1 here in Wisconsin, so that means probably 1 to 2 months behind everywhere else, or likely Feb. 15.

I absolutely love the C7Z06 body style, and especially the front splitter.

The rear clear spoiler, not so much. Then there is always carbon fiber.
So Jim we barely saw the Z06 unveiled and you're saying there will definitely be a ZR1? I would hate to invest in a Z06 to find out GM releasing a ZR1 one year after.

Now on a sidenote do you think its even possible to get the weight of the c7 Z06 down to 3000lbs?
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