Z06 ~$72K (an exercise in math & logic)
#1
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Z06 ~$72K (an exercise in math & logic)
Since Tadge has stated that a fully optioned Z06/07 will not exceed $100K, many of you are neglecting a key piece of logic:
*** because a fully optioned C6Z is about $105K, if you subtract out all confirmed options from C6Z and C7 it is mathematically impossible for the C7Z base price to exceed $80,000***
Let's confirm this with some math:
1. First, let's add up all the main non-packaged options using existing GM pricing: premium paint $995, chrome wheels $1995, automatic $1350, micro-suede $995, calipers $595, competition seats $1995, dual roof option $995 = $8,920
2. Secondly, let's add also the existing option packages we know about: 3LZ interior $8860, carbon package $3995 (roof, trim, splitter, rockers) and Z07 $7500 (ceramic brakes, PS2 cup tires, spoiler) = $20,355 + $8,920 options = $29,275
*** Assuming these option prices remain the same, this gives us a base price of $100,000 - $29,275 = $70,725 (add in delivery, $72K). For the base price to exceed this figure, the option packages must/probably will be cheaper, which I predict. We can also deduce that "Z51" $2800, exhaust $1195, stinger stripe $500 & magnetic shocks $1795 will all be included in the base price, so you're really paying an incremental $12K for a supercharger, carbon fiber shaft, forged engine parts & wide-body with larger wheels. What a bargain, made possible by reusing the same chassis (and my deposit is already placed!).
The only way for the base price to exceed $80K is if Tadge is wrong. Remember, besides stating that all options checked won't exceed $100K, it was also mentioned that us corvette fans "will be quite pleased with the pricing of the Z06" and that "if you can afford the previous Z06 you can afford this one." And finally, should you decide this math is no good corroborated by three statements from GM, please contest it with something sensible rather than the often redneck logic spewed in these forums.
*** because a fully optioned C6Z is about $105K, if you subtract out all confirmed options from C6Z and C7 it is mathematically impossible for the C7Z base price to exceed $80,000***
Let's confirm this with some math:
1. First, let's add up all the main non-packaged options using existing GM pricing: premium paint $995, chrome wheels $1995, automatic $1350, micro-suede $995, calipers $595, competition seats $1995, dual roof option $995 = $8,920
2. Secondly, let's add also the existing option packages we know about: 3LZ interior $8860, carbon package $3995 (roof, trim, splitter, rockers) and Z07 $7500 (ceramic brakes, PS2 cup tires, spoiler) = $20,355 + $8,920 options = $29,275
*** Assuming these option prices remain the same, this gives us a base price of $100,000 - $29,275 = $70,725 (add in delivery, $72K). For the base price to exceed this figure, the option packages must/probably will be cheaper, which I predict. We can also deduce that "Z51" $2800, exhaust $1195, stinger stripe $500 & magnetic shocks $1795 will all be included in the base price, so you're really paying an incremental $12K for a supercharger, carbon fiber shaft, forged engine parts & wide-body with larger wheels. What a bargain, made possible by reusing the same chassis (and my deposit is already placed!).
The only way for the base price to exceed $80K is if Tadge is wrong. Remember, besides stating that all options checked won't exceed $100K, it was also mentioned that us corvette fans "will be quite pleased with the pricing of the Z06" and that "if you can afford the previous Z06 you can afford this one." And finally, should you decide this math is no good corroborated by three statements from GM, please contest it with something sensible rather than the often redneck logic spewed in these forums.
Last edited by Ching Ho; 02-11-2014 at 01:35 PM.
#2
Melting Slicks
Since Tadge has stated that a fully optioned Z06/07 will not exceed $100K, many of you are neglecting a key piece of logic:
*** because a fully optioned C6Z is about $105K, if you subtract out all confirmed options from C6Z and C7 it is mathematically impossible for the C7Z base price to exceed $80,000***
Let's confirm this with some math:
1. First, let's add up all the main non-packaged options using existing GM pricing: premium paint $995, chrome wheels $1995, automatic $1350, micro-suede $995, calipers $595, competition seats $1995, dual roof option $995 = $8,920
2. Secondly, let's add also the existing option packages we know about: 3LZ interior $8860, carbon package $3995 (roof, trim, splitter, rockers) and Z07 $7500 (ceramic brakes, PS2 cup tires, spoiler) = $20,355 + $8,920 options = $29,275
*** Assuming these option prices remain the same, this gives us a base price of $100,000 - $29,275 = $70,725 (add in delivery, $72K). For the base price to exceed this figure, the option packages must/probably will be cheaper, which I predict. We can also deduce that "Z51" $2800, exhaust $1195, stinger stripe $500 & magnetic shocks $1795 will all be included in the base price, so you're really paying an incremental $12K for a supercharger, carbon fiber shaft, forged engine parts & wide-body with larger wheels. What a bargain, made possible by reusing the same chassis (and my deposit is already placed!).
The only way for the base price to exceed $80K is if Tadge is wrong. Remember, besides stating that all options checked won't exceed $100K, it was also mentioned that us corvette fans "will be quite pleased with the pricing of the Z06" and that "if you can afford the previous Z06 you can afford this one." And finally, should you decide this math is no good corroborated by three statements from GM, please contest it with something sensible rather than the often redneck logic spewed in these forums.
*** because a fully optioned C6Z is about $105K, if you subtract out all confirmed options from C6Z and C7 it is mathematically impossible for the C7Z base price to exceed $80,000***
Let's confirm this with some math:
1. First, let's add up all the main non-packaged options using existing GM pricing: premium paint $995, chrome wheels $1995, automatic $1350, micro-suede $995, calipers $595, competition seats $1995, dual roof option $995 = $8,920
2. Secondly, let's add also the existing option packages we know about: 3LZ interior $8860, carbon package $3995 (roof, trim, splitter, rockers) and Z07 $7500 (ceramic brakes, PS2 cup tires, spoiler) = $20,355 + $8,920 options = $29,275
*** Assuming these option prices remain the same, this gives us a base price of $100,000 - $29,275 = $70,725 (add in delivery, $72K). For the base price to exceed this figure, the option packages must/probably will be cheaper, which I predict. We can also deduce that "Z51" $2800, exhaust $1195, stinger stripe $500 & magnetic shocks $1795 will all be included in the base price, so you're really paying an incremental $12K for a supercharger, carbon fiber shaft, forged engine parts & wide-body with larger wheels. What a bargain, made possible by reusing the same chassis (and my deposit is already placed!).
The only way for the base price to exceed $80K is if Tadge is wrong. Remember, besides stating that all options checked won't exceed $100K, it was also mentioned that us corvette fans "will be quite pleased with the pricing of the Z06" and that "if you can afford the previous Z06 you can afford this one." And finally, should you decide this math is no good corroborated by three statements from GM, please contest it with something sensible rather than the often redneck logic spewed in these forums.
#3
Good logic. Hope you are correct.
#4
Who would want one not fully optioned??? Not this guy.
#6
Burning Brakes
I only have one objection- stinger stripe will be an option. If maxed out is less than $100k, it will be a super great value. I might check off on all the options except the 3lz!
Everyone who claims pricing comparable to the ZR1 are ignorant turds!!! Please stop the ignorance.
Everyone who claims pricing comparable to the ZR1 are ignorant turds!!! Please stop the ignorance.
Last edited by G352C6; 02-11-2014 at 06:06 PM.
#8
Melting Slicks
#9
Its gonna start mid 70's. I was told buy someone who knows. He also told me all the details about the z06 a couple months before it was revealed in detroit. He was right about all of it. MID 70's to start. its a fact.
#10
Team Owner
I do hope you (and your 'connection') are right, but I'm quoting your post for future reference just in case you're not (ya know, because we ALL love those 'egg on the face' call out moments and such LOL ).
#11
Le Mans Master
Since Tadge has stated that a fully optioned Z06/07 will not exceed $100K, many of you are neglecting a key piece of logic:
*** because a fully optioned C6Z is about $105K, if you subtract out all confirmed options from C6Z and C7 it is mathematically impossible for the C7Z base price to exceed $80,000***
Let's confirm this with some math:
1. First, let's add up all the main non-packaged options using existing GM pricing: premium paint $995, chrome wheels $1995, automatic $1350, micro-suede $995, calipers $595, competition seats $1995, dual roof option $995 = $8,920
2. Secondly, let's add also the existing option packages we know about: 3LZ interior $8860, carbon package $3995 (roof, trim, splitter, rockers) and Z07 $7500 (ceramic brakes, PS2 cup tires, spoiler) = $20,355 + $8,920 options = $29,275
*** Assuming these option prices remain the same, this gives us a base price of $100,000 - $29,275 = $70,725 (add in delivery, $72K). For the base price to exceed this figure, the option packages must/probably will be cheaper, which I predict. We can also deduce that "Z51" $2800, exhaust $1195, stinger stripe $500 & magnetic shocks $1795 will all be included in the base price, so you're really paying an incremental $12K for a supercharger, carbon fiber shaft, forged engine parts & wide-body with larger wheels. What a bargain, made possible by reusing the same chassis (and my deposit is already placed!).
The only way for the base price to exceed $80K is if Tadge is wrong. Remember, besides stating that all options checked won't exceed $100K, it was also mentioned that us corvette fans "will be quite pleased with the pricing of the Z06" and that "if you can afford the previous Z06 you can afford this one." And finally, should you decide this math is no good corroborated by three statements from GM, please contest it with something sensible rather than the often redneck logic spewed in these forums.
*** because a fully optioned C6Z is about $105K, if you subtract out all confirmed options from C6Z and C7 it is mathematically impossible for the C7Z base price to exceed $80,000***
Let's confirm this with some math:
1. First, let's add up all the main non-packaged options using existing GM pricing: premium paint $995, chrome wheels $1995, automatic $1350, micro-suede $995, calipers $595, competition seats $1995, dual roof option $995 = $8,920
2. Secondly, let's add also the existing option packages we know about: 3LZ interior $8860, carbon package $3995 (roof, trim, splitter, rockers) and Z07 $7500 (ceramic brakes, PS2 cup tires, spoiler) = $20,355 + $8,920 options = $29,275
*** Assuming these option prices remain the same, this gives us a base price of $100,000 - $29,275 = $70,725 (add in delivery, $72K). For the base price to exceed this figure, the option packages must/probably will be cheaper, which I predict. We can also deduce that "Z51" $2800, exhaust $1195, stinger stripe $500 & magnetic shocks $1795 will all be included in the base price, so you're really paying an incremental $12K for a supercharger, carbon fiber shaft, forged engine parts & wide-body with larger wheels. What a bargain, made possible by reusing the same chassis (and my deposit is already placed!).
The only way for the base price to exceed $80K is if Tadge is wrong. Remember, besides stating that all options checked won't exceed $100K, it was also mentioned that us corvette fans "will be quite pleased with the pricing of the Z06" and that "if you can afford the previous Z06 you can afford this one." And finally, should you decide this math is no good corroborated by three statements from GM, please contest it with something sensible rather than the often redneck logic spewed in these forums.
#12
Drifting
So they are actually LOWERING the price versus the 2013 C6 Z06, a car that's TWO model years older?! Fact?
I do hope you (and your 'connection') are right, but I'm quoting your post for future reference just in case you're not (ya know, because we ALL love those 'egg on the face' call out moments and such LOL ).
I do hope you (and your 'connection') are right, but I'm quoting your post for future reference just in case you're not (ya know, because we ALL love those 'egg on the face' call out moments and such LOL ).
#13
Tadge has stated the z51 package is on the base z. And I think mag ride as well.
Areo packages. I think its 2 or 3 versions?
Automatic
the new very cool track software/gps might be optional as well.
Comp seats might be standard?
That leaves
nav
Bose upgrade
leather/suade package
stripes
paint
wheels
carbon ceramic brakes
see through targa top/carbon targa
dual exhaust (probably?)
carbon fiber interior (maybe?)
cargo net
floor mats
heated/cooled seats (probably?)
Of course they will be put into packages.i know the z07 package at least comes with the full areo and carbon ceramic brakes and probably comp seats if they are not standard on the z. There will be options that can be added to the z and if we take tadge sword that a fully loaded z will be 100k that leaves the z07 package around 90k if the 3lz is still at 9k and the z07 doesn't come with it or the upgraded leather already. If indeed the base z starts at 75k that's just over 20k compared to the z51 stingray. That would get you the supercharger, bigger brakes/wheels and wide body, most likely better suspension, parts made of magnesium and carbon fiber that arnt in the stingray....seems like a great deal.
Areo packages. I think its 2 or 3 versions?
Automatic
the new very cool track software/gps might be optional as well.
Comp seats might be standard?
That leaves
nav
Bose upgrade
leather/suade package
stripes
paint
wheels
carbon ceramic brakes
see through targa top/carbon targa
dual exhaust (probably?)
carbon fiber interior (maybe?)
cargo net
floor mats
heated/cooled seats (probably?)
Of course they will be put into packages.i know the z07 package at least comes with the full areo and carbon ceramic brakes and probably comp seats if they are not standard on the z. There will be options that can be added to the z and if we take tadge sword that a fully loaded z will be 100k that leaves the z07 package around 90k if the 3lz is still at 9k and the z07 doesn't come with it or the upgraded leather already. If indeed the base z starts at 75k that's just over 20k compared to the z51 stingray. That would get you the supercharger, bigger brakes/wheels and wide body, most likely better suspension, parts made of magnesium and carbon fiber that arnt in the stingray....seems like a great deal.
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That stinger stripe better be option ! I don't like it at all. They should also offer a aero option same as c6 z06. I don't want a splitter at all they should offer bit smaller front tires including maybe smaller rims so don't have to look at the ugly wheelwell spats
and front splitter is just going to break or get damaged on my driveway.
If GM sticks me with the front splitter even on the base aero car then will likely take it off myself and also try to find a way to eliminate the spats.
Not sure if going to smaller front tire would necessitate going to different rims.
It would also be nice to see GM offer more carbon fiber interior pieces and maybe a shiny carbon fiber interior as well but there will be aftermarket of course so not too worried about that.
And pretty sure they will not have the competition seats as standard seats. I am not sure want them so nice to have option on that . Also not sure dual mode exhaust will be standard on the z06. And wonder how much that video camera option is going to be? Guess find out soon as they will be adding it to 2015 base cars maybe sooner than they release prices on the z06.
and front splitter is just going to break or get damaged on my driveway.
If GM sticks me with the front splitter even on the base aero car then will likely take it off myself and also try to find a way to eliminate the spats.
Not sure if going to smaller front tire would necessitate going to different rims.
It would also be nice to see GM offer more carbon fiber interior pieces and maybe a shiny carbon fiber interior as well but there will be aftermarket of course so not too worried about that.
And pretty sure they will not have the competition seats as standard seats. I am not sure want them so nice to have option on that . Also not sure dual mode exhaust will be standard on the z06. And wonder how much that video camera option is going to be? Guess find out soon as they will be adding it to 2015 base cars maybe sooner than they release prices on the z06.
#16
Here's a thought to stir the pot:
When Tadge referred to a loaded Z06 for under $100K, was he thinking "Z06" and not "Z07" (and yes, I realize that to play semantics Z07 is and OPTION for a Z06.). In other words, was he, and others, referring to a loaded Z06 as the a Z06 with all the options sans Z07? Setting semantics aside, it would not be the first time someone referred to a Z07 as a different "model" than a Z06.
Call me crazy, but pricing a full tilt Z06 sans the Z07 option under $100K and than adding say $10K +/- for the Z07 option for a Z06/Z07 totaling $110K +/- might not be too far fetched.
Just think, after many more months of beating this issue to death with declarations of this or that, one announcement on the part of GM will lay this to rest.
When Tadge referred to a loaded Z06 for under $100K, was he thinking "Z06" and not "Z07" (and yes, I realize that to play semantics Z07 is and OPTION for a Z06.). In other words, was he, and others, referring to a loaded Z06 as the a Z06 with all the options sans Z07? Setting semantics aside, it would not be the first time someone referred to a Z07 as a different "model" than a Z06.
Call me crazy, but pricing a full tilt Z06 sans the Z07 option under $100K and than adding say $10K +/- for the Z07 option for a Z06/Z07 totaling $110K +/- might not be too far fetched.
Just think, after many more months of beating this issue to death with declarations of this or that, one announcement on the part of GM will lay this to rest.
#17
Scraping the splitter.
Last year people were estimating everything from $50-60k for the base C7. It ended up coming in at a base MSRP of $51,000 + $995 D&D, or $1400 more than the 2013. Base MSRP on a 2013 Z06 was $75,600 + $995 D&D. IMO the base 2015 Z06 will be ~$78,000 + $995 D&D.
There are lots of good "estimates" in various threads, but in the end it is what it is.
S
#18
Safety Car
I think the z07 package is going to be more than 7500... 7500 barely covers the cost of ccb's and the z07 has a couple more tid bits of aero... and if gm is smart they are upping the tolerances on the ccb to avoid any shake syndromes...
#19
Le Mans Master
Anyone need a good kidney for ..... $100k?
#20
Melting Slicks
That stinger stripe better be option ! I don't like it at all. They should also offer a aero option same as c6 z06. I don't want a splitter at all they should offer bit smaller front tires including maybe smaller rims so don't have to look at the ugly wheelwell spats
and front splitter is just going to break or get damaged on my driveway.
If GM sticks me with the front splitter even on the base aero car then will likely take it off myself and also try to find a way to eliminate the spats.
Not sure if going to smaller front tire would necessitate going to different rims.
It would also be nice to see GM offer more carbon fiber interior pieces and maybe a shiny carbon fiber interior as well but there will be aftermarket of course so not too worried about that.
And pretty sure they will not have the competition seats as standard seats. I am not sure want them so nice to have option on that . Also not sure dual mode exhaust will be standard on the z06. And wonder how much that video camera option is going to be? Guess find out soon as they will be adding it to 2015 base cars maybe sooner than they release prices on the z06.
and front splitter is just going to break or get damaged on my driveway.
If GM sticks me with the front splitter even on the base aero car then will likely take it off myself and also try to find a way to eliminate the spats.
Not sure if going to smaller front tire would necessitate going to different rims.
It would also be nice to see GM offer more carbon fiber interior pieces and maybe a shiny carbon fiber interior as well but there will be aftermarket of course so not too worried about that.
And pretty sure they will not have the competition seats as standard seats. I am not sure want them so nice to have option on that . Also not sure dual mode exhaust will be standard on the z06. And wonder how much that video camera option is going to be? Guess find out soon as they will be adding it to 2015 base cars maybe sooner than they release prices on the z06.
If I were you I would just get the spats painted or use vinyl tape on them. Easier solution than smaller tires which may or may not work. Or just wait for the after market to come up with a solution.
The splitter is unpainted plastic on the base Z06 and not as large as the level 2/3 splitter which is painted or exposed carbon fiber so I wouldn't worry too much if you get a base.