Order constraints - beware
#1
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
Order constraints - beware
Unfortunately, there is too much misinformation circulating about orders, and whether they're actually being processed. Without getting into a sordid discussion about it, every buyer should recognize that the GM ordering software system is NOT first in/first out.
Once every dealer gets their allocation letter/quantity off the GM website they will then have to be watching carefully every two weeks during their product consensus so as to not miss the week when the allocated Z06 will be available to have placed for production. So, whether the order was put in the system (and order number generated) yesterday or 3 months ago really doesn’t matter.
The real issue that everyone should be concerned about is the 100% random individual option constraint situation that we face when ordering cars. For example let’s say that your Z06 gets allocated to order the second week of Feb 2015. That week, the dealer must order a Z06 or they will lose the allocated unit, period. During that week of ordering, GM may have certain options on a constraint due to a number of reasons; like supplier capacity, etc. So, if you want an automatic and that week they are not building automatics the dealer must either order a manual or lose the unit. Then the dealer's next chance would be when his/her next Z06 is allocated, with the hope that they are building automatics then.
This was the same issue with the Z51 option all thru 2014 ordering. So, a dealer who gets 10 may end up not getting an option they want for each of the ten orders depending on how the constraints fall. The constraint situations can be 100% luck of the draw…….
Unfortunately for me, luck is seldom on my side.
Once every dealer gets their allocation letter/quantity off the GM website they will then have to be watching carefully every two weeks during their product consensus so as to not miss the week when the allocated Z06 will be available to have placed for production. So, whether the order was put in the system (and order number generated) yesterday or 3 months ago really doesn’t matter.
The real issue that everyone should be concerned about is the 100% random individual option constraint situation that we face when ordering cars. For example let’s say that your Z06 gets allocated to order the second week of Feb 2015. That week, the dealer must order a Z06 or they will lose the allocated unit, period. During that week of ordering, GM may have certain options on a constraint due to a number of reasons; like supplier capacity, etc. So, if you want an automatic and that week they are not building automatics the dealer must either order a manual or lose the unit. Then the dealer's next chance would be when his/her next Z06 is allocated, with the hope that they are building automatics then.
This was the same issue with the Z51 option all thru 2014 ordering. So, a dealer who gets 10 may end up not getting an option they want for each of the ten orders depending on how the constraints fall. The constraint situations can be 100% luck of the draw…….
Unfortunately for me, luck is seldom on my side.
Last edited by Glenn Quagmire; 08-29-2014 at 04:29 PM.
#2
Pro
Unfortunately, there is too much misinformation circulating about orders, and whether they're actually being processed. Without getting into a sordid discussion about it, every buyer should recognize that the GM ordering software system is NOT first in/first out.
Once every dealer gets their allocation letter/quantity off the GM website they will then have to be watching carefully every two weeks during their product consensus so as to not miss the week when the allocated Z06 will be available to have placed for production. So, whether the order was put in the system (and order number generated) yesterday or 3 months ago really doesn’t matter.
The real issue that everyone should be concerned about is the 100% random individual option constraint situation that we face when ordering cars. For example let’s say that your Z06 gets allocated to order the second week of Feb 2015. That week, the dealer must order a Z06 or they will lose the allocated unit, period. During that week of ordering GM may have certain options on a constraint due to a number of reasons; like supplier capacity, etc. So, if you want an automatic and that week they are not building automatics the dealer must either order a manual or loose the unit. Then the dealer's next chance would be when his/her next Z06 is allocated, with the hope that they are building automatics then.
This was the same issue with the Z51 option all thru 2014 ordering. So, a dealer who gets 10 may end up not getting an option they want for each of the ten orders depending on how the constraints fall. The constraint situations can be 100% luck of the draw…….
Unfortunately for me, luck is seldom on my side.
Once every dealer gets their allocation letter/quantity off the GM website they will then have to be watching carefully every two weeks during their product consensus so as to not miss the week when the allocated Z06 will be available to have placed for production. So, whether the order was put in the system (and order number generated) yesterday or 3 months ago really doesn’t matter.
The real issue that everyone should be concerned about is the 100% random individual option constraint situation that we face when ordering cars. For example let’s say that your Z06 gets allocated to order the second week of Feb 2015. That week, the dealer must order a Z06 or they will lose the allocated unit, period. During that week of ordering GM may have certain options on a constraint due to a number of reasons; like supplier capacity, etc. So, if you want an automatic and that week they are not building automatics the dealer must either order a manual or loose the unit. Then the dealer's next chance would be when his/her next Z06 is allocated, with the hope that they are building automatics then.
This was the same issue with the Z51 option all thru 2014 ordering. So, a dealer who gets 10 may end up not getting an option they want for each of the ten orders depending on how the constraints fall. The constraint situations can be 100% luck of the draw…….
Unfortunately for me, luck is seldom on my side.
#3
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
#4
Melting Slicks
I feel like my car should not be hit by constraints. You never know, but I don't see any of the following being an issue.
Must haves
Coupe
CF mirrors
Standard roof
Black wheels
2LZ
Painted ground effects
Batt tender
7 speed
Might order
Comp seats
Nav/PDR
CF Stinger
Must haves
Coupe
CF mirrors
Standard roof
Black wheels
2LZ
Painted ground effects
Batt tender
7 speed
Might order
Comp seats
Nav/PDR
CF Stinger
#5
The bottom line is when a dealer takes your order and deposit, and gives you a copy of the order, you will get your car. It is just a matter of when. It could be a month or it could be a year or longer. So once you have an order, sit back an relax. Your car will come. And good things are worth waiting for.
#8
Melting Slicks
Well I hope it wont be too bad. I don't want my car till spring so I figure ordering in Feb or March should be pretty safe time to order?
#9
Racer
Oh yeah, battery tender... Delayed order for sure
#10
Safety Car
Unfortunately, there is too much misinformation circulating about orders, and whether they're actually being processed. Without getting into a sordid discussion about it, every buyer should recognize that the GM ordering software system is NOT first in/first out.
Once every dealer gets their allocation letter/quantity off the GM website they will then have to be watching carefully every two weeks during their product consensus so as to not miss the week when the allocated Z06 will be available to have placed for production. So, whether the order was put in the system (and order number generated) yesterday or 3 months ago really doesn’t matter.
The real issue that everyone should be concerned about is the 100% random individual option constraint situation that we face when ordering cars. For example let’s say that your Z06 gets allocated to order the second week of Feb 2015. That week, the dealer must order a Z06 or they will lose the allocated unit, period. During that week of ordering, GM may have certain options on a constraint due to a number of reasons; like supplier capacity, etc. So, if you want an automatic and that week they are not building automatics the dealer must either order a manual or lose the unit. Then the dealer's next chance would be when his/her next Z06 is allocated, with the hope that they are building automatics then.
This was the same issue with the Z51 option all thru 2014 ordering. So, a dealer who gets 10 may end up not getting an option they want for each of the ten orders depending on how the constraints fall. The constraint situations can be 100% luck of the draw…….
Unfortunately for me, luck is seldom on my side.
Once every dealer gets their allocation letter/quantity off the GM website they will then have to be watching carefully every two weeks during their product consensus so as to not miss the week when the allocated Z06 will be available to have placed for production. So, whether the order was put in the system (and order number generated) yesterday or 3 months ago really doesn’t matter.
The real issue that everyone should be concerned about is the 100% random individual option constraint situation that we face when ordering cars. For example let’s say that your Z06 gets allocated to order the second week of Feb 2015. That week, the dealer must order a Z06 or they will lose the allocated unit, period. During that week of ordering, GM may have certain options on a constraint due to a number of reasons; like supplier capacity, etc. So, if you want an automatic and that week they are not building automatics the dealer must either order a manual or lose the unit. Then the dealer's next chance would be when his/her next Z06 is allocated, with the hope that they are building automatics then.
This was the same issue with the Z51 option all thru 2014 ordering. So, a dealer who gets 10 may end up not getting an option they want for each of the ten orders depending on how the constraints fall. The constraint situations can be 100% luck of the draw…….
Unfortunately for me, luck is seldom on my side.
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Last edited by ZL-1; 08-30-2014 at 12:52 AM.
#11
Safety Car
#14
Melting Slicks
#15
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
Thanks Glenn for the clear description of GM's ordering system. An unfortunate result of this is that if you want to be sure of getting a car built promptly with minimum hassles you need to from one of the big Corvette dealers. Then when constraints occur (as they always do) the dealer can match up his various orders with options available to him that week. Many times options are constrained to a certain percent nationwide. For example last week the standard painted roof was constrained to 35%. A big dealer gets a number of allocations each consensus. He'll be offered a few of those constrained items and can match them up with his sold orders. A small or medium sized dealer might be offered only one car that consensus and not be offered the desired option, time after time. That's why in 2014 some guys waiting for Z51 at smaller dealers never got a car.
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#16
Melting Slicks
No one, not even the dealer has any control over when your car will be produced!
After the order is placed it is out of the dealers hands!!
How do I know!
I was number 1 for Stingray at McMulkin!
I placed my order ASAP! There were No constraints on my order!
Cars were getting built all around me!
I didn't get my car till Oct 28th.
I had ordered in first consensus!
For whatever reason Production team hadn't selected my car to be built!
Watching others getting their car weeks ahead of me had me starting to get upset that no could answer why!
This time with the Z I know to just relax, it will get here!
Have 9400 miles on the Stingray!
The car is great!
After the order is placed it is out of the dealers hands!!
How do I know!
I was number 1 for Stingray at McMulkin!
I placed my order ASAP! There were No constraints on my order!
Cars were getting built all around me!
I didn't get my car till Oct 28th.
I had ordered in first consensus!
For whatever reason Production team hadn't selected my car to be built!
Watching others getting their car weeks ahead of me had me starting to get upset that no could answer why!
This time with the Z I know to just relax, it will get here!
Have 9400 miles on the Stingray!
The car is great!
#17
Melting Slicks
No one, not even the dealer has any control over when your car will be produced!
After the order is placed it is out of the dealers hands!!
How do I know!
I was number 1 for Stingray at McMulkin!
I placed my order ASAP! There were No constraints on my order!
Cars were getting built all around me!
I didn't get my car till Oct 28th.
I had ordered in first consensus!
For whatever reason Production team hadn't selected my car to be built!
Watching others getting their car weeks ahead of me had me starting to get upset that no could answer why!
This time with the Z I know to just relax, it will get here!
Have 9400 miles on the Stingray!...
The car is great!
After the order is placed it is out of the dealers hands!!
How do I know!
I was number 1 for Stingray at McMulkin!
I placed my order ASAP! There were No constraints on my order!
Cars were getting built all around me!
I didn't get my car till Oct 28th.
I had ordered in first consensus!
For whatever reason Production team hadn't selected my car to be built!
Watching others getting their car weeks ahead of me had me starting to get upset that no could answer why!
This time with the Z I know to just relax, it will get here!
Have 9400 miles on the Stingray!...
The car is great!
I was #3 on Les Stanford's first allocation for the 2014. I put down my deposit in August 2012 and placed my order the 1st day it opened in April.
However, I picked just about every option including Z51, Mag ride, 7-speed, FAY, exposed carbon fiber roof, clear roof, 3LT, museum delivery, etc.. I checked the status every day after they started shipping. No VIN or production date scheduled in September. I was thinking what the hell is going on? I worried they would deliver it in November when the weather turned bad in Bowling Green.
Then on October 1, I got the call my car was built. I had to wait the 2 weeks while it was in quarantine and took delivery on October 17, 2014. VIN# is 02429. In hind sight, having a higher VIN# may be a good as I have no issues except for the software updates and the average orange peel.
I was the last of the 1st allocation of 25 to take delivery. But I think it had a lot to do with the museum delivery because they started it on October 1.
The bottom line is the once the dealer submits the order to GM, they have zero control. However, the salesman said the less options and basic color is, the sooner it will be built.
#18
Melting Slicks
It would be nice if GM would prioritize sold orders vs. Dealer stock units... guess it really doesnt/shouldn't matter to them though.
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One can really go nuts trying to predict what might or might not be a constraint by the time the vehicle they ordered comes up for production and making sure their dealer is doing their job keeping tabs of their allocation.
I can neither be indifferent to it nor obsess over it. I will order the options I want and keep communicating with my dealer in the hope that they stay on top of it. After that it's up to the delivery gods. If it takes longer it takes longer, but I'm not going to sacrifice options I desire trying to time constraints, nor am I going to highjack my time obsessing about delivery time, nor am I going to place my order and never talk to my salesman again.
It's out money and they are selling their product, it's okay to be engaged but imho not okay to be stressed over it ... this is supposed to be fun, not an ordeal.
I can neither be indifferent to it nor obsess over it. I will order the options I want and keep communicating with my dealer in the hope that they stay on top of it. After that it's up to the delivery gods. If it takes longer it takes longer, but I'm not going to sacrifice options I desire trying to time constraints, nor am I going to highjack my time obsessing about delivery time, nor am I going to place my order and never talk to my salesman again.
It's out money and they are selling their product, it's okay to be engaged but imho not okay to be stressed over it ... this is supposed to be fun, not an ordeal.