Z07 Package is a Bargain!
11-22-2014, 09:47 PM
#41
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The CCBs on my ZR are fantastic, and have none of the issues he mentioned, which goes to the work the engineers put forth in the pad formulation.
11-23-2014, 08:02 AM
#42
Melting Slicks
For less than the price of carbon ceramic brakes on any European car, you get:
– Michelin® Pilot® Sport Cup 2 ZP fitted tires1
– Carbon ceramic brakes
– Carbon-fiber ground effects
– Splitter package
The carbon-fiber ground effects alone cost $3995 so all the rest costs $4000. Truly a bargain as is the Z06.
What I'd like to know is if the ride on the Z07 is harsher than the ride is on the Z06 and if the ride on the Z06 is harsher than the ride on a Z51. Anyone know?
– Michelin® Pilot® Sport Cup 2 ZP fitted tires1
– Carbon ceramic brakes
– Carbon-fiber ground effects
– Splitter package
The carbon-fiber ground effects alone cost $3995 so all the rest costs $4000. Truly a bargain as is the Z06.
What I'd like to know is if the ride on the Z07 is harsher than the ride is on the Z06 and if the ride on the Z06 is harsher than the ride on a Z51. Anyone know?
The total cost is either $11000.00 or $12000.00 still a good deal!!! JD
11-23-2014, 08:13 AM
#43
Melting Slicks
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Question: Mike Furman steered me away from ordering Ground Effects Package 2 and made it sound like it could only be ordered with the Z07 package. I don't think that's correct so maybe I misunderstood him. Can't a non-Z07 car be ordered with either CFV or CFZ? And, will adding either cause my order to be delayed?
11-23-2014, 08:26 AM
#44
Melting Slicks
The CFZ or CFV can be ordered without the Z07 package! But whether he can put them on your order, depends on if they are on constraint when he places the order. That may be what he was referring to. JD
11-23-2014, 09:51 AM
#45
Le Mans Master
Jim, I did miss that extra ground effects option when I made the post but I agree, even with it it's still a great deal compared to the Euro cars.
Question: Mike Furman steered me away from ordering Ground Effects Package 2 and made it sound like it could only be ordered with the Z07 package. I don't think that's correct so maybe I misunderstood him. Can't a non-Z07 car be ordered with either CFV or CFZ? And, will adding either cause my order to be delayed?
Question: Mike Furman steered me away from ordering Ground Effects Package 2 and made it sound like it could only be ordered with the Z07 package. I don't think that's correct so maybe I misunderstood him. Can't a non-Z07 car be ordered with either CFV or CFZ? And, will adding either cause my order to be delayed?
CFV is only available when ordered with the Z07 Track Package option.
CFZ is available but on 20% constraint.
"Our research shows that while it is true that the Carbon Fiber Visible Package (CFV) is available on the Z06 both with and without the Z07 Package, we are restricting the CFV availability right now due to limited availability."
The Chevrolet Marketing Team
11-23-2014, 10:30 AM
#46
Melting Slicks
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I guess we'll see come Dec. 4 - 12 when the order will be placed during the second consensus. I'm only looking for CFZ which is on 20% constraint but maybe that'll be different in a few weeks when my order gets in the system.
Does anyone know if there's a constraint on EFX/EFY? My color is Shark Gray so both options apply to me.
Does anyone know if there's a constraint on EFX/EFY? My color is Shark Gray so both options apply to me.
11-23-2014, 11:56 AM
#47
Even at half the price, IF the Z07 makes the car less of a good fit for a particular buyer, it is NOT a good deal. Sadly, my gut says some Z07 buyers will live to regret the purchase.
If someone is tracking the car, or feels compelled to have the last little bit of handling/braking on a street car, and is willing to pay the price, than THAT it is a good deal.
The cost for Z07 is more than dollars. There is also the reduced handling/braking in the wet, the harsher ride, the reduced ground clearance, some shops unwilling to remove the tire/wheel assemblies on a car with carbon ceramic rotors, reduced thread wear... For SOME people, these issues add up to make the Z07 a lousy choice.
Both sides of the equation are there for all of us to see. Pick whatever floats your boat and enjoy your new C7Z!
If someone is tracking the car, or feels compelled to have the last little bit of handling/braking on a street car, and is willing to pay the price, than THAT it is a good deal.
The cost for Z07 is more than dollars. There is also the reduced handling/braking in the wet, the harsher ride, the reduced ground clearance, some shops unwilling to remove the tire/wheel assemblies on a car with carbon ceramic rotors, reduced thread wear... For SOME people, these issues add up to make the Z07 a lousy choice.
Both sides of the equation are there for all of us to see. Pick whatever floats your boat and enjoy your new C7Z!
11-23-2014, 12:24 PM
#48
Safety Car
Even at half the price, IF the Z07 makes the car less of a good fit for a particular buyer, it is NOT a good deal. Sadly, my gut says some Z07 buyers will live to regret the purchase.
If someone is tracking the car, or feels compelled to have the last little bit of handling/braking on a street car, and is willing to pay the price, than THAT it is a good deal.
The cost for Z07 is more than dollars. There is also the reduced handling/braking in the wet, the harsher ride, the reduced ground clearance, some shops unwilling to remove the tire/wheel assemblies on a car with carbon ceramic rotors, reduced thread wear... For SOME people, these issues add up to make the Z07 a lousy choice.
Both sides of the equation are there for all of us to see. Pick whatever floats your boat and enjoy your new C7Z!
If someone is tracking the car, or feels compelled to have the last little bit of handling/braking on a street car, and is willing to pay the price, than THAT it is a good deal.
The cost for Z07 is more than dollars. There is also the reduced handling/braking in the wet, the harsher ride, the reduced ground clearance, some shops unwilling to remove the tire/wheel assemblies on a car with carbon ceramic rotors, reduced thread wear... For SOME people, these issues add up to make the Z07 a lousy choice.
Both sides of the equation are there for all of us to see. Pick whatever floats your boat and enjoy your new C7Z!
Well said!
11-23-2014, 12:24 PM
#49
Turn 12!
Even at half the price, IF the Z07 makes the car less of a good fit for a particular buyer, it is NOT a good deal. Sadly, my gut says some Z07 buyers will live to regret the purchase.
If someone is tracking the car, or feels compelled to have the last little bit of handling/braking on a street car, and is willing to pay the price, than THAT it is a good deal.
The cost for Z07 is more than dollars. There is also the reduced handling/braking in the wet, the harsher ride, the reduced ground clearance, some shops unwilling to remove the tire/wheel assemblies on a car with carbon ceramic rotors, reduced thread wear... For SOME people, these issues add up to make the Z07 a lousy choice.
Both sides of the equation are there for all of us to see. Pick whatever floats your boat and enjoy your new C7Z!
If someone is tracking the car, or feels compelled to have the last little bit of handling/braking on a street car, and is willing to pay the price, than THAT it is a good deal.
The cost for Z07 is more than dollars. There is also the reduced handling/braking in the wet, the harsher ride, the reduced ground clearance, some shops unwilling to remove the tire/wheel assemblies on a car with carbon ceramic rotors, reduced thread wear... For SOME people, these issues add up to make the Z07 a lousy choice.
Both sides of the equation are there for all of us to see. Pick whatever floats your boat and enjoy your new C7Z!
11-23-2014, 12:56 PM
#50
Burning Brakes
11-23-2014, 01:11 PM
#51
The entire Corvette lineup is a BARGAIN!! 
11-23-2014, 01:18 PM
#52
Even at half the price, IF the Z07 makes the car less of a good fit for a particular buyer, it is NOT a good deal. Sadly, my gut says some Z07 buyers will live to regret the purchase.
If someone is tracking the car, or feels compelled to have the last little bit of handling/braking on a street car, and is willing to pay the price, than THAT it is a good deal.
The cost for Z07 is more than dollars. There is also the reduced handling/braking in the wet, the harsher ride, the reduced ground clearance, some shops unwilling to remove the tire/wheel assemblies on a car with carbon ceramic rotors, reduced thread wear... For SOME people, these issues add up to make the Z07 a lousy choice.
Both sides of the equation are there for all of us to see. Pick whatever floats your boat and enjoy your new C7Z!
If someone is tracking the car, or feels compelled to have the last little bit of handling/braking on a street car, and is willing to pay the price, than THAT it is a good deal.
The cost for Z07 is more than dollars. There is also the reduced handling/braking in the wet, the harsher ride, the reduced ground clearance, some shops unwilling to remove the tire/wheel assemblies on a car with carbon ceramic rotors, reduced thread wear... For SOME people, these issues add up to make the Z07 a lousy choice.
Both sides of the equation are there for all of us to see. Pick whatever floats your boat and enjoy your new C7Z!
Z06 value = X
Z07 value = 5X
In years to come, so Z07s are definitely worth the SLIGHT discomfort, and next , your point about low traction on the road in bad weather makes NO sense because ALL Zs with the same tires will have the same bad weather traction unless you thought we would be ripping corners at 100mph in a rain or snowstorm .
Look, Nobody actually NEEDS a supercar we buy it for kicks and If I'm buying I want the best one I can get it's why people pay OVER a million bucks for a P1 or LaFerrari that are even WORSE than the Z07 in the ways you mentioned
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11-23-2014, 01:20 PM
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The Z07s will be like 67 ss Camaros or SRT Vipers they will always be 10 times the price of Z06s in years to come ..Have not heard ant complaints from SRT or SS owners ...and I'm sure there were guys like you making the same sill arguments when they came out ...so to recap
Z06 value = X
Z07 value = 5X
In years to come
Z06 value = X
Z07 value = 5X
In years to come
11-23-2014, 01:42 PM
#54
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
The Z07s will be like 67 ss Camaros or SRT Vipers they will always be 5 to 10 times the price of Z06s in years to come ..Have not heard any complaints from SRT or SS owners, have you? ...and I'm sure there were guys like you making the same silly arguments when they came out ...so to recap
Z06 value = X
Z07 value = 5X
In years to come, so Z07s are definitely worth the SLIGHT discomfort, and next , your point about low traction on the road in bad weather makes NO sense because ALL Zs with the same tires will have the same bad weather traction unless you thought we would be ripping corners at 100mph in a rain or snowstorm .
Look, Nobody actually NEEDS a supercar we buy it for kicks and If I'm buying I want the best one I can get it's why people pay OVER a million bucks for a P1 or LaFerrari that are even WORSE than the Z07 in the ways you mentioned
Z06 value = X
Z07 value = 5X
In years to come, so Z07s are definitely worth the SLIGHT discomfort, and next , your point about low traction on the road in bad weather makes NO sense because ALL Zs with the same tires will have the same bad weather traction unless you thought we would be ripping corners at 100mph in a rain or snowstorm .
Look, Nobody actually NEEDS a supercar we buy it for kicks and If I'm buying I want the best one I can get it's why people pay OVER a million bucks for a P1 or LaFerrari that are even WORSE than the Z07 in the ways you mentioned
11-23-2014, 04:02 PM
#57
Drifting
You obviously do NOT own or have driven a Zo7 with CC brakes.
1. They do not need heat to brake properly due to the extensive research done in engineering the brake pads. That was the biggest hurdle to bring them to the street. It was true of race cars with CC brakes, but not on the Zo7 or ZR1. They do brake great when hot, but the pad compound works very well cold.
2. They are not noisy at all. Steel rotors and track pads are, but not CC brakes on the Zo7.
3. Pedal modulation is not an issue at all. Some professional racers prefer steel rotors over CC for that reason but have never heard anyone else calling this an issue on the ZR1 or ZO7.
Owning a Z07 after several other Z's it is the best package ever offered by GM. It also rides better than my other C6Z. GM is warning the new Zo7 will be a tough ride?? We will see. If you track the Zo7 package cannot be beat. I hated swapping rotors and pads for the track. Now it's just change the rims and fluids for the track, a 2 hours affair. After the hype is over I too will get another ZO7!!
Last edited by seamus2154; 11-24-2014 at 10:00 AM.
11-23-2014, 05:33 PM
#58
Turn 12!
11-24-2014, 01:16 PM
#59
Melting Slicks
