jdmdohcpower

So this question is relevant to the people who already have finalized orders and purchase orders showing exact amounts based on those amounts at the time of ordering and agreed to when signed. if there's a new tax implemented don't you think the dealer should be responsible for that since they agreed to a set price already and put it in writing. I would understand if they told me this prior but there was nothing said about it. I'm in sales also I want to place an order for product if the MSRP changes before I get it to delivered to the client I could never go to the client and ask him to pay more we agreed on a price already. Now I fully understand the dealers sold his car before it came outand that's all fine and dandy but really who's fault is that? I asked how much it was they told me I agreed to it now if they're pricing was incorrect isn't that their fault? Let's me fair, I'm paying full MSRP. They're doing just fine

harley2

Good luck!

ChucksZ06

I bet the dealers contracts cover that possibility. It is called fine print. They should definitely split the difference but I bet they will not.

jdmdohcpower

Wouldn't doubt. Just talking about principle

JDIllon

????IT'S A TAX!! MSRP does not cover taxes. They didn't know any more than you did that it was going to have GGT. Give it a go! and good luck with that plan. I love a buck as much or more that the next guy! but even I am not unrealistic enough to think the the dealer will eat all or part of it. If you get your dealer to buy into that plan, let me know I want you to call mine and sell him on the idea. JD

fasttoys

BOBSZ06

The GGT is included in the MSRP.
My po specifies that fact and that I have agreed to MSRP.
So I will be paying the GGT.

FiremanC7

This has been discussed before. Some ZR1's had the GGT and it was not part of the MSRP. Several threads on the subject here that included images of the window stickers as proof. Search is your friend.

BobD

harlold

lmao yeah let us know how refusing the pay the GG tax will work out for you.

As others have said, generally it is part of the MSRP. You'll pay it.

UTZ06

I am not at all happy about my out the door price changing! I had no idea there would be a gas guzzler tax, but shouldn't dealers have know this was a possibility and they should have mentioned this possibility? I'm not sure, but don't think this is anything new? When I was given MSRP I asked for a total, including tax, title, fees, and was given what I was told was a firm price. I hope there are no more bad surprises!

jdmdohcpower

That's not true. My PO shows the price of the car (MSRP) and then all taxes including an additional 1% tax because I own property in the state the dealer is located and then it shows a total and final cost which was signed be he and I. It also list that if I back out I lose my 10k. That sounds like a contact if I've ever seen one. Now I'm realistic to the fact that there must be some fine print BS protecting them and I'll check that tomorrow. If not, I'm not paying it. If so, I'll put up a good fight and expect to lose that battle but at the end of the day the GG tax is not included anywhere. This was not an estimate, it's a final purchase order that I've paid against already.
Now I'm not trying to start a pissing match or be an a$$hole about it but GM knows the deal long before the epa, it's not the first time for them. It should have been included as a possibility otherwise all I'm saying here it's really just not fair for them to change the price after you already committed and have no other choice.

racerns

Then don't buy the car. I'm sure they will find someone who will.

jdmdohcpower

100% agree

harlold

I imagine the dealer will just refund your deposit and tell you to get lost.

GG is part of the game, deal with it.

jdmdohcpower

Again not going to back out over 1300 bucks otherwise I couldn't afford the car to begin with. And yes in sure that's the option that they will provide. But you say it's all part of the game.. I didn't know about that rule. Why would I if the dealer didn't warn me about it. Normally when you have a final PO, that's pretty much it.
You sound pretty eger to thow away that GG tax money. Sure wish I had your money. Wait, I will never be ok with wasting money. Don't mind spending it thou

harlold

Yeah you got me, I love paying more in taxes.

Dealers didn't know there was a gas guzzler - seeing as it was speculation all up until what last week?

It isn't some big conspiracy. They don't see a dime of it so why would they care?

fdxpilot

It was not included in the base price, but it was included on the sticker and the total MSRP.

jdmdohcpower

Understood and I'm sure they don't. Simply saying why issue a final PO when they don't have final pricing? It would make sense that if GM allowed orders with out proper pricing, maybe they should absorb it since it's by not fault of the consumer rather GM trying to sell the car too soon

jdmdohcpower

Not on my PO it wasn't. If it was part of MSRP they should have included it months ago when they took the order and gave me the MSRP of the car. You're showing a window sticker, this isn't available for the z06 or they would have out the tax on the PO lol. That's the whole point here. It wasn't included. If it was or I was told about it I wouldn't care. It's the fact that they are not honoring the deal they agreed to. I understand they didn't know about it but GM knows they car has to get tested and will get hit with it. Without that final info, the MSRP or tax they listed on the contract is invalid
I've said how I felt about this, if you don't agree I respect that. Guess I'm just a deal's a deal kinda guy and at the end of the day it's not gonna stop me. It just rubs me the wrong way because they know know we're all going to pay it anyway

fdxpilot

And your PO has what to do with a ZR1 window sticker, which I was replying to. FWIW- if you pull your act, the dealer will tell you to,take a hike.

Took me a couple minutes to find supporting image.