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Old 02-15-2015, 07:50 PM
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This is a pre-production view of the 2015 Z06's AFM exhaust valves just forward of the mufflers....I had my car on the hoist again today and went over every inch of the tailpipes (with a borescope for areas hidden from direct view) from the muffler to the exhaust pipe and there is nothing that resembles these valves! Does this mean they are somehow incorporated them in the muffler valve just before the chrome tips?
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Our Z06 does not have AFM exhaust valves either. Corsa has reported some that they have seen do have it. I can't figure out what option dictates whether they have them or not.
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Our Z06 does not have AFM exhaust valves either. Corsa has reported some that they have seen do have it. I can't figure out what option dictates whether they have them or not.
Wow, how strange...since the LT1 has them I wonder which cars were slated not to get them...maybe the export models???? I should have written down the P/N etched onto the tailpipe and see what model it fits...oh well!
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I have already changed the exhaust on my Z.
There are no valves forward of the mufflers.
I installed a Corsa Extreme with X-pipe and
it sounds awsum! (I did have to modify the
Corsa adapters because the Z06 mufflers
have slightly larger input pipes than a standard
C7)
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I remember early on one of the Z51 owners reported his AFM valves failed due to heat after a track day. With the extra exhaust heat from a supercharged engine I wonder if the valves are designed out of the Z06 which would make the exhaust note "interesting" when AFM is active.
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(I did have to modify the
Corsa adapters because the Z06 mufflers
have slightly larger input pipes than a standard
C7)
The stock Z06 tailpipes are 2.75" I believe and I thought the Corsa X was 3"? How does this sound now with the X?

With the extra exhaust heat from a supercharged engine I wonder if the valves are designed out of the Z06 which would make the exhaust note "interesting" when AFM is active.
Could be!
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With this information now, I wonder if the Z06 NPP valves are used in AFM mode and essentially replicate the function...

With the Stingray, NPP is optional. With the Z06 it's on every car, so maybe no need for 2 sets of valves?

JMB, you're tuned into the way it sounds and you have done the fuse #42 pull. With the fuse in, try some Eco mode driving (watch the center display when in V4 mode) to see what it sounds like. Then pull Fuse 42 and see what it sounds like in V4. There should be no doubt about if the NPP valves are replicating the function at this point as V4 with the exhaust open sounds like a$$.

Maybe also check to see if fuse 32 even exists in these cars w/o AFM valves.
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Originally Posted by JMB
This is a pre-production view of the 2015 Z06's AFM exhaust valves just forward of the mufflers....I had my car on the hoist again today and went over every inch of the tailpipes (with a borescope for areas hidden from direct view) from the muffler to the exhaust pipe and there is nothing that resembles these valves! Does this mean they are somehow incorporated them in the muffler valve just before the chrome tips?
Is there any exhaust valves on the Z06? I have a manaflow system with 2 valves in front of the mufflers. Do you know if these will work on the Z06? Thanks
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my Z06 has both valves
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Originally Posted by charliebrown266
my Z06 has both valves
Assume you mean the pair in the tips and the ones forward of the mufflers like in the OP picture?
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Wouldn't it throw a code if the AFM valve harness is there but unplugged?
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Originally Posted by soulsea
Wouldn't it throw a code if the AFM valve harness is there but unplugged?
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Originally Posted by xp800
That's what I suspected, so it's definitely not integrated with the MPP valves, cause mine is unplugged and no codes.

It has to be there somewhere though, otherwise the M7s wouldn't get through without GGT ... as I understand it that's the only reason 'eco' mode exists in a performance car like this, and 'eco' mode is the only time AFM is active. So could these valves really be somewhere between the primary cats (with sensors) and the secondary cats the X pipe deletes?

Or am I thinking about this the wrong way?
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Originally Posted by xp800
Assume you mean the pair in the tips and the ones forward of the mufflers like in the OP picture?
yes 2 in the tips and 2 before the mufflers
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JMB, you're tuned into the way it sounds and you have done the fuse #42 pull. With the fuse in, try some Eco mode driving (watch the center display when in V4 mode) to see what it sounds like. Then pull Fuse 42 and see what it sounds like in V4. There should be no doubt about if the NPP valves are replicating the function at this point as V4 with the exhaust open sounds like a$$.

Maybe also check to see if fuse 32 even exists in these cars w/o AFM valves.
Will do, I just popped the fuse box and it has a fuse #32...sure wonder what it goes to....I guess I'll find out shortly!

my Z06 has both valves
Wow....does it look like the picture?
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Is this a Z07 difference possibly? JMB and charliebrown, are yours Z07 or not?
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[QUOTE=JMB;1588978383]The stock Z06 tailpipes are 2.75" I believe and I thought the Corsa X was 3"? How does this sound now with the X?

The Corsa Xpipe fits perfect. No mods, just bolt in. Sounds awsum!
The mufflers on the other hand, are slightly different dia. so I had to
do a little welding on the Corsa adapters. But ultimately ended up with
a perfect fit
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Originally Posted by soulsea
Wouldn't it throw a code if the AFM valve harness is there but unplugged?
Not if GM programmed the ECM that way. It obviously would be a different
setup than a LT1. ( It will throw a code on a LT1 because I tried it)
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Originally Posted by AD2386
Is there any exhaust valves on the Z06? I have a manaflow system with 2 valves in front of the mufflers. Do you know if these will work on the Z06? Thanks
From my experience your Magnaflow should bolt right on, but you will not use the valves located in front of the mufflers (AFM valves)
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Originally Posted by soulsea
That's what I suspected, so it's definitely not integrated with the MPP valves, cause mine is unplugged and no codes.

It has to be there somewhere though, otherwise the M7s wouldn't get through without GGT ... as I understand it that's the only reason 'eco' mode exists in a performance car like this, and 'eco' mode is the only time AFM is active. So could these valves really be somewhere between the primary cats (with sensors) and the secondary cats the X pipe deletes?

Or am I thinking about this the wrong way?
I thought that when the Gov tested for GGT they didn't change any settings for the test, and the M7 wasn't put into ECO mode.


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