Rail-car shortages slowing car deliveries
#1
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
Rail-car shortages slowing car deliveries
Rail-car shortage discussed last June in this Toledo story:
http://www.toledoblade.com/Automotiv...to-supply.html
I suspect with the West Coast dock strike over and the backlog of containers needing to be moved and quickly that rails are even more stressed out. Weather is adding to the problems most certainly. This seems to be especially bad for the western customers that rely totally on the rails for shipping.
So, us with Corvettes sitting in Toledo can wait and wait until our turn comes. Until then get those mods ready to go so when the day arrives you can get to work on your car.
My A8/Z06 was built on Jan. 23rd (VIN 2873) and then had to wait 3 weeks for the so-called Quality Control hold. It then shipped Friday the 13th to Toledo where it has been parked ever since.
I keep hoping that it will get shipped west soon, but my hope is fading...fast.
http://www.toledoblade.com/Automotiv...to-supply.html
I suspect with the West Coast dock strike over and the backlog of containers needing to be moved and quickly that rails are even more stressed out. Weather is adding to the problems most certainly. This seems to be especially bad for the western customers that rely totally on the rails for shipping.
So, us with Corvettes sitting in Toledo can wait and wait until our turn comes. Until then get those mods ready to go so when the day arrives you can get to work on your car.
My A8/Z06 was built on Jan. 23rd (VIN 2873) and then had to wait 3 weeks for the so-called Quality Control hold. It then shipped Friday the 13th to Toledo where it has been parked ever since.
I keep hoping that it will get shipped west soon, but my hope is fading...fast.
Last edited by BOBSZ06; 02-27-2015 at 11:12 AM.
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My A8 C7Z was built on 1/29 and shipped on 2/16 to a rail yard in New Boston MI. where it's still waiting for a train ride east to NY. This doesn't make sense, since my C7 was delivered in 2 days by truck back in September 2013.
#3
Burning Brakes
This is what happens when GM wants to save a few bucks. Ultimately the customer pays the price. I don't understand how GM can sell its flagship car for 100K and during the delivery process treat it like a chevy cruze. I figure it will be at least 8 weeks to get my car delivered after it was built. that is unacceptable.
#4
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
I have checked with my dealer Kerbeck and the Corvette Manager, Dave Salvatore......
He checked the GM Workbook Order and found my railcar ID!
The car was shipped on Tuesday, 24th and is at Air line Junction, OH?
I assumed that if OnStar shows a location it is working and if an error is received then it has time out or on-board and out of sight.
I would suggest for anyone not able to get the railcar ID from GM Chat to consult with their dealer as they can get that information.
Air line Junction, OH is southwest of Toledo and definitely in a different location than what OnStar shows.
Progress?
He checked the GM Workbook Order and found my railcar ID!
The car was shipped on Tuesday, 24th and is at Air line Junction, OH?
I assumed that if OnStar shows a location it is working and if an error is received then it has time out or on-board and out of sight.
I would suggest for anyone not able to get the railcar ID from GM Chat to consult with their dealer as they can get that information.
Air line Junction, OH is southwest of Toledo and definitely in a different location than what OnStar shows.
Progress?
Last edited by BOBSZ06; 02-27-2015 at 12:40 PM.
#5
Team Owner
Rail-car shortage discussed last June in this Toledo story:
http://www.toledoblade.com/Automotiv...to-supply.html
I suspect with the West Coast dock strike over and the backlog of containers needing to be moved and quickly that rails are even more stressed out. Weather is adding to the problems most certainly. This seems to be especially bad for the western customers that rely totally on the rails for shipping.
So, us with Corvettes sitting in Toledo can wait and wait until our turn comes. Until then get those mods ready to go so when the day arrives you can get to work on your car.
My A8/Z06 was built on Jan. 23rd (VIN 2873) and then had to wait 3 weeks for the so-called Quality Control hold. It then shipped Friday the 13th to Toledo where it has been parked ever since.
I keep hoping that it will get shipped west soon, but my hope is fading...fast.
http://www.toledoblade.com/Automotiv...to-supply.html
I suspect with the West Coast dock strike over and the backlog of containers needing to be moved and quickly that rails are even more stressed out. Weather is adding to the problems most certainly. This seems to be especially bad for the western customers that rely totally on the rails for shipping.
So, us with Corvettes sitting in Toledo can wait and wait until our turn comes. Until then get those mods ready to go so when the day arrives you can get to work on your car.
My A8/Z06 was built on Jan. 23rd (VIN 2873) and then had to wait 3 weeks for the so-called Quality Control hold. It then shipped Friday the 13th to Toledo where it has been parked ever since.
I keep hoping that it will get shipped west soon, but my hope is fading...fast.
add mine add then head west.
#6
Burning Brakes
I have checked with my dealer Kerbeck and the Corvette Manager, Dave Salvatore......
He checked the GM Workbook Order and found my railcar ID!
The car was shipped on Tuesday, 24th and is at Air line Junction, OH?
I assumed that if OnStar shows a location it is working and if an error is received then it has time out or on-board and out of sight.
I would suggest for anyone not able to get the railcar ID from GM Chat to consult with their dealer as they can get that information.
Air line Junction, OH is southwest of Toledo and definitely in a different location than what OnStar shows.
Progress?
He checked the GM Workbook Order and found my railcar ID!
The car was shipped on Tuesday, 24th and is at Air line Junction, OH?
I assumed that if OnStar shows a location it is working and if an error is received then it has time out or on-board and out of sight.
I would suggest for anyone not able to get the railcar ID from GM Chat to consult with their dealer as they can get that information.
Air line Junction, OH is southwest of Toledo and definitely in a different location than what OnStar shows.
Progress?
#7
Le Mans Master
This is what happens when GM wants to save a few bucks. Ultimately the customer pays the price. I don't understand how GM can sell its flagship car for 100K and during the delivery process treat it like a chevy cruze. I figure it will be at least 8 weeks to get my car delivered after it was built. that is unacceptable.
Advice to anyone deadset on getting your car as quickly as possible:
1. Buy from dealer stock.
2. Order it from a dealership within truck transport distance from BG then pay to have it trucked to your house from said dealership (or fly in to take delivery).
3. Select the museum delivery package.
Last edited by Kracka; 02-27-2015 at 12:59 PM.
#8
Burning Brakes
This is happening across all commodities, across all railroads, not just Corvettes. Automotive will always take a backseat with the railroad vs. other commodities such as oil, grain, etc. Be glad your car is at least made in the US rather than having to take a boat ride, then train, then truck before it finally arrives at your dealership. If you think any of brand of car takes priority over Chevrolets (high-end luxury or base model econobox), you are mistaken; the railroad could careless.
Advice to anyone deadset on getting your car as quickly as possible:
1. Buy from dealer stock.
2. Order it from a dealership within truck transport distance from BG then pay to have it trucked to your house from said dealership (or fly in to take delivery).
3. Select the museum delivery package.
Advice to anyone deadset on getting your car as quickly as possible:
1. Buy from dealer stock.
2. Order it from a dealership within truck transport distance from BG then pay to have it trucked to your house from said dealership (or fly in to take delivery).
3. Select the museum delivery package.
#9
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
I am not sure what they do at the nearby locations. My car has been in Bellevue OH for the last two day which is due east of Toledo and then at some point in the future will be heading to Mira Loma CA. Did you contact the train and get an ETA? They should provide it when you call in.
The voice did not provide an ETA.
But the point is that OnStar still shows it in the Toledo site and evidently is presenting the last know location. I will be tracking with the railcar ID from here.
The car was moved to Air line Junction 5PM Tuesday, so another couple of days is today...hopeful for a movement west today.
#10
Happen to me too. Sat in MI rail yard for over 2 weeks. The issue is some dealers in the Northeast are designated "truck" dealers and others are "rail" dealers and these dealers can be right next door to each other.
#11
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
Appears that OnStar is working. I had not logged out of my Android app and so I did and then login again and checked and now this is what I am getting:
This shows the initial OnStar location near the Chrysler Dr; the new OnStar location (west Toledo) and the railcar ID location (air line junction).
Take your pick
This shows the initial OnStar location near the Chrysler Dr; the new OnStar location (west Toledo) and the railcar ID location (air line junction).
Take your pick
#12
This is what happens when GM wants to save a few bucks. Ultimately the customer pays the price. I don't understand how GM can sell its flagship car for 100K and during the delivery process treat it like a chevy cruze. I figure it will be at least 8 weeks to get my car delivered after it was built. that is unacceptable.
There is no easy way to get it out west safely. Luckily our A8 vert should be in Milpitas on Sunday or sometime next week.
Last edited by 2015zo7; 02-27-2015 at 03:13 PM.
#13
Burning Brakes
Honestly I would agree with you until I saw first hand what happened to the stingrays that were shipped by truck in 2013. When they were being trucked out west the stingrays were getting all scratched up and damaged do the poor cover design. On one of the trucks I even saw one of the covers ripped apart.
There is no easy way to get it out west safely. Luckily our A8 vert should be in Milpitas on Sunday or sometime next week.
There is no easy way to get it out west safely. Luckily our A8 vert should be in Milpitas on Sunday or sometime next week.
#14
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
Here is what OnStar says about "vehicle locate" with the app.
"Please keep in mind when using RemoteLink vehicle locate with the vehicle in ignition-off state, RemoteLink will display the last know vehicle location (gathered last time the vehicle was ignition-on).
Vehicle locate will generally be accurate within 10 meters (thirty feet) of the last known location of the vehicle, where it was turned off after the last drive. Once the vehicle has been powered on, the location will update."
So, no way to check location of the car while on the railcar according to this.
I thought some had located the car on the railcar in transit?
So, why would my car on the railcar be showing where it is now in the above map unless it had been started at the location and then turned off? Doesn't appear to be a loading area...
....-The only possible answer is that it was loaded at the Chrysler railcar area; left running; and then someone onboard turned it off at that location while the train was moving to the air line railyard location it is at now.
("Vehicle locate will generally be accurate within 10 meters (thirty feet) of the last known location of the vehicle, where it was turned off after the last drive")
"Please keep in mind when using RemoteLink vehicle locate with the vehicle in ignition-off state, RemoteLink will display the last know vehicle location (gathered last time the vehicle was ignition-on).
Vehicle locate will generally be accurate within 10 meters (thirty feet) of the last known location of the vehicle, where it was turned off after the last drive. Once the vehicle has been powered on, the location will update."
So, no way to check location of the car while on the railcar according to this.
I thought some had located the car on the railcar in transit?
So, why would my car on the railcar be showing where it is now in the above map unless it had been started at the location and then turned off? Doesn't appear to be a loading area...
....-The only possible answer is that it was loaded at the Chrysler railcar area; left running; and then someone onboard turned it off at that location while the train was moving to the air line railyard location it is at now.
("Vehicle locate will generally be accurate within 10 meters (thirty feet) of the last known location of the vehicle, where it was turned off after the last drive")
Last edited by BOBSZ06; 02-27-2015 at 04:28 PM.
#15
Team Owner
This is happening across all commodities, across all railroads, not just Corvettes. Automotive will always take a backseat with the railroad vs. other commodities such as oil, grain, etc. Be glad your car is at least made in the US rather than having to take a boat ride, then train, then truck before it finally arrives at your dealership. If you think any of brand of car takes priority over Chevrolets (high-end luxury or base model econobox), you are mistaken; the railroad could careless.
Advice to anyone deadset on getting your car as quickly as possible:
1. Buy from dealer stock.
2. Order it from a dealership within truck transport distance from BG then pay to have it trucked to your house from said dealership (or fly in to take delivery).
3. Select the museum delivery package.
Advice to anyone deadset on getting your car as quickly as possible:
1. Buy from dealer stock.
2. Order it from a dealership within truck transport distance from BG then pay to have it trucked to your house from said dealership (or fly in to take delivery).
3. Select the museum delivery package.
They care a lot and we run Auto trains every single day.
If the rail was not transporting freight you would have clogged highways since the railroads haul millions of tons daily.
#16
Team Owner
Honestly I would agree with you until I saw first hand what happened to the stingrays that were shipped by truck in 2013. When they were being trucked out west the stingrays were getting all scratched up and damaged do the poor cover design. On one of the trucks I even saw one of the covers ripped apart.
There is no easy way to get it out west safely. Luckily our A8 vert should be in Milpitas on Sunday or sometime next week.
There is no easy way to get it out west safely. Luckily our A8 vert should be in Milpitas on Sunday or sometime next week.
#18
Racer
Here is what OnStar says about "vehicle locate" with the app.
"Please keep in mind when using RemoteLink vehicle locate with the vehicle in ignition-off state, RemoteLink will display the last know vehicle location (gathered last time the vehicle was ignition-on).
Vehicle locate will generally be accurate within 10 meters (thirty feet) of the last known location of the vehicle, where it was turned off after the last drive. Once the vehicle has been powered on, the location will update."
So, no way to check location of the car while on the railcar according to this.
I thought some had located the car on the railcar in transit?
So, why would my car on the railcar be showing where it is now in the above map unless it had been started at the location and then turned off? Doesn't appear to be a loading area...
....-The only possible answer is that it was loaded at the Chrysler railcar area; left running; and then someone onboard turned it off at that location while the train was moving to the air line railyard location it is at now.
("Vehicle locate will generally be accurate within 10 meters (thirty feet) of the last known location of the vehicle, where it was turned off after the last drive")
"Please keep in mind when using RemoteLink vehicle locate with the vehicle in ignition-off state, RemoteLink will display the last know vehicle location (gathered last time the vehicle was ignition-on).
Vehicle locate will generally be accurate within 10 meters (thirty feet) of the last known location of the vehicle, where it was turned off after the last drive. Once the vehicle has been powered on, the location will update."
So, no way to check location of the car while on the railcar according to this.
I thought some had located the car on the railcar in transit?
So, why would my car on the railcar be showing where it is now in the above map unless it had been started at the location and then turned off? Doesn't appear to be a loading area...
....-The only possible answer is that it was loaded at the Chrysler railcar area; left running; and then someone onboard turned it off at that location while the train was moving to the air line railyard location it is at now.
("Vehicle locate will generally be accurate within 10 meters (thirty feet) of the last known location of the vehicle, where it was turned off after the last drive")
#19
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
I see no way to "refresh" my remote app if that is what you are referring to? The only thing I can do is log off and then login.
No refresh feature on my Android app.
Just tried it again, and tapped the "car" icon again and maybe that "refreshed" the location as it is showing me in a different location!
Thanks
Update: OnStar does work without having the ignition turned off!!!!
I was told I simply needed to "refresh" my Remote Link. I tried tapping the "car" icon on the map for the location of the car and viola it refreshed to a new location.
OnStar CS is incorrect it appears. You can get the location at anytime.
Railcar update: Departed Air line Junction, 02.28.15 @ 0730.... no ETA
MILPITAS OR BUST!
Finally out of that ice box in Toledo
My current location:
Last edited by BOBSZ06; 02-28-2015 at 09:17 AM.
#20
Le Mans Master
Lets hear it for the Rail Roads.
Last edited by robertbruce; 02-28-2015 at 10:24 AM.