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Old 03-01-2015, 05:47 PM
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Default Calling on Jeremy Formato...which is really more powerful, this ZR1 or your C7Z?

Jeremy, your awesome work speaks for itself!

I'm curious how you would characterize this Fasterproms stock long-block/tuned 700+ RWHP bolt-on ZR1 https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ower-only.html that you recently did vs. your new C7Z? Times and MPH seem very comparable, however, it also appears that the dreaded over 130MPH hex of the C7Z may have given the nod to the ZR1 (1/4 mile 142 mph vs. 140 mph) but this may not be a fair comparison since the C7Z weighs ~200 lbs more! Both ET's were almost spot on as well.....C7Z 9.87 vs ZR1 9.94 in very similar DA! Is the boost much higher on the ZR1 compared to the C7Z? It also appears that the ZR1 is not running on E85 but then it also has a ported TB where your C7Z does not. I would love to hear your perspective on these two set-ups as I'm sure others would as well

I know that you're very busy making mega HP for many happy Customers but I am hopeful that you could dictate your commentary to one of your staff and they can post for you!
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Originally Posted by JMB
Jeremy, your awesome work speaks for itself!

I'm curious how you would characterize this Fasterproms stock long-block/tuned 700+ RWHP bolt-on ZR1 https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ower-only.html that you recently did vs. your new C7Z? Times and MPH seem very comparable, however, it also appears that the dreaded over 130MPH hex of the C7Z may have given the nod to the ZR1 (1/4 mile 142 mph vs. 140 mph) but this may not be a fair comparison since the C7Z weighs ~200 lbs more! Both ET's were almost spot on as well.....C7Z 9.87 vs ZR1 9.94 in very similar DA! Is the boost much higher on the ZR1 compared to the C7Z? It also appears that the ZR1 is not running on E85 but then it also has a ported TB where your C7Z does not. I would love to hear your perspective on these two set-ups as I'm sure others would as well

I know that you're very busy making mega HP for many happy Customers but I am hopeful that you could dictate your commentary to one of your staff and they can post for you!
1- ZR1 weighs 3,353lbs vs 2015 Z06 coupe 3,524
2- ZR1 has a bigger blower
3- 2015 Z06 has more downforce
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Originally Posted by NYROBZ06
1- ZR1 weighs 3,353lbs vs 2015 Z06 coupe 3,524
2- ZR1 has a bigger blower
3- 2015 Z06 has more downforce
4. The C7Z's slowest lap was faster than the ZR1's fastest lap; GM stat.

5. The Stingray is just as fast around Spring Mountain according to the 5 instructors that I asked. Much faster in the turns, but not in the straight aways.

6. The ZR1 is referred to as the "Beater" at spring mountain. The new Z06 is "far more superior".

7. The new Z06 has better handling and much better technology.
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Originally Posted by JMB
Jeremy, your awesome work speaks for itself!

I'm curious how you would characterize this Fasterproms stock long-block/tuned 700+ RWHP bolt-on ZR1 https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ower-only.html that you recently did vs. your new C7Z? Times and MPH seem very comparable, however, it also appears that the dreaded over 130MPH hex of the C7Z may have given the nod to the ZR1 (1/4 mile 142 mph vs. 140 mph) but this may not be a fair comparison since the C7Z weighs ~200 lbs more! Both ET's were almost spot on as well.....C7Z 9.87 vs ZR1 9.94 in very similar DA! Is the boost much higher on the ZR1 compared to the C7Z? It also appears that the ZR1 is not running on E85 but then it also has a ported TB where your C7Z does not. I would love to hear your perspective on these two set-ups as I'm sure others would as well

I know that you're very busy making mega HP for many happy Customers but I am hopeful that you could dictate your commentary to one of your staff and they can post for you!
Stock ZR1 has been 10.2 in the 1/4 with drag radials. The C7Z will never even come close to that
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I am the zr1 owner, we get this question a lot They are both insane cars for what little is done to both of them. I will let Jeremy chime in for the MPH/HEX/boost comments. However my car is tuned and running on E85.

-Matt
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Probably won't get the 10.2@135 but I wouldn't be surprise if that the A8 with drag radials get close to it.
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Glory run vs reality. Line up zr1 with their owners and a8 z06 and race and see what happens.

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Stock ZR1 has been 10.2 in the 1/4 with drag radials. The C7Z will never even come close to that
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Glory run vs reality. Line up zr1 with their owners and a8 z06 and race and see what happens.
lol automatic
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Originally Posted by JackTripper
4. The C7Z's slowest lap was faster than the ZR1's fastest lap; GM stat.
You left out some of the info about that quote/stat. That was specific to the VIR lap times and they conveniently forgot to mention that the track had been repaved and widened since they tested the ZR1 there. The track is now a good +2 sec a lap faster. Not really a fair comparison.


5. The Stingray is just as fast around Spring Mountain according to the 5 instructors that I asked. Much faster in the turns, but not in the straight aways.
If that is the case then why has it not been able to equal or better the ZR1's lap times at any other track (except Top gear where the ZR1 was tested in the wet)? The Stingray was 6 sec slower at VIR with Mero driving both cars.
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Originally Posted by cars
Glory run vs reality. Line up zr1 with their owners and a8 z06 and race and see what happens.
What this guy said.
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Originally Posted by cars
Glory run vs reality. Line up zr1 with their owners and a8 z06 and race and see what happens.
After seeing all of the videos posted up here of a stock Hellcat, stock Viper, and stock ZR1 each pounding the new Z from a roll I doubt most ZR1 owners are that scared of running across one on the street. Of course many ZR1's running around now are modded at 650rwhp or higher so it will just make it even more embarrassing for the waxers who decide to try their luck
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I am the zr1 owner,
Matt, your frickin' ZR1 is wicked fast, congrat's!

Can you please describe your observations between 93 Octane and the E85 on your ZR1 before/after...I was unaware that you were now on the E85! Power, times, MPH, etc.
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Originally Posted by c6z07
lol automatic
Is automatic not stock
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Originally Posted by OBSSSD
Stock ZR1 has been 10.2 in the 1/4 with drag radials. The C7Z will never even come close to that
Never say never
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Originally Posted by tail_lights
Never say never
Since all those records are on a few well prepped NE tracks why don't we wait until climate change is done for the season and see what transpires?
Oh, wait, it's that troll OBSSSSD stinking up the place again, never mind a reasonable response. It would just be wasted.
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Let's see. The c7Z06 owners have a choice of getting a c7Z06 or buy an used ZR1 and spent mod money on it to be way faster (same total price). They decided to get a C7Z06 instead of modded C6 ZR1 or Z06. I was trying to setup my friend's 2015 Z06 A8 vs. a friend's stock ZR1 (I believe it was a 2013 model) since both drag race their cars regularly. Unfortunately the reply from the ZR1 owner today was he traded his ZR1 in for a 2015 Z06 M7.
I doubt C7Z06 owners really care what ZR1 owners think and vice versa. We buy cars we can afford and like. Some like ZR1 and some like the new improvements on the new Corvette.
Personally I like the ZR1 but after being in couple C7Z06s, the interior on the C6 looks outdated. The speed freaks probably could care less about the refinement but most new car buyers do.



Originally Posted by OBSSSD
After seeing all of the videos posted up here of a stock Hellcat, stock Viper, and stock ZR1 each pounding the new Z from a roll I doubt most ZR1 owners are that scared of running across one on the street. Of course many ZR1's running around now are modded at 650rwhp or higher so it will just make it even more embarrassing for the waxers who decide to try their luck
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Originally Posted by cars
Let's see. The c7Z06 owners have a choice of getting a c7Z06 or buy an used ZR1 and spent mod money on it to be way faster (same total price). They decided to get a C7Z06 instead of modded C6 ZR1 or Z06. I was trying to setup my friend's 2015 Z06 A8 vs. a friend's stock ZR1 (I believe it was a 2013 model) since both drag race their cars regularly. Unfortunately the reply from the ZR1 owner today was he traded his ZR1 in for a 2015 Z06 M7.
I doubt C7Z06 owners really care what ZR1 owners think and vice versa. We buy cars we can afford and like. Some like ZR1 and some like the new improvements on the new Corvette.
Personally I like the ZR1 but after being in couple C7Z06s, the interior on the C6 looks outdated. The speed freaks probably could care less about the refinement but most new car buyers do.
And there is ALWAYS somebody faster!

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Originally Posted by OBSSSD
After seeing all of the videos posted up here of a stock Hellcat, stock Viper, and stock ZR1 each pounding the new Z from a roll I doubt most ZR1 owners are that scared of running across one on the street. Of course many ZR1's running around now are modded at 650rwhp or higher so it will just make it even more embarrassing for the waxers who decide to try their luck
Line up a stock C7 Z06 vs stock ZR1 and lets see what happens.

For all I care there were Hellfats destroying ZR1s @ 1/2 mile event recently. Oh snap that's gonna hurt a lot of feeling here now
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Originally Posted by c6z07
lol automatic
Lol butthurt much?
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I'm a bit less power than that ZR1 but I'd love to run Jeremy's car. I'm local to him too. I put down 640RWHP on a Mustang dyno in the C6 in my garage.


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