..:: 992 rwhp.....Stock LT4....(Cam + ProCharger)...WICKED::..
10-13-2015, 06:07 PM
#61
I did answer it on post #6.....
This car literally will destroy a turned up factory blower on kill (on E85)
To the tune of over 200 ft lbs of TQ! and 300HP but on 93
In the power range that matters. (AKA, when you shift)
Nobody races from idle to 3,500 LOL.
This car makes the correct amount of TQ you would expect for a centrifugal blower on pump gas (not E85) making right at 1000 rwhp.
(like 1,200 crankshaft HP)
This car literally will destroy a turned up factory blower on kill (on E85)
To the tune of over 200 ft lbs of TQ! and 300HP but on 93
In the power range that matters. (AKA, when you shift)
Nobody races from idle to 3,500 LOL.
This car makes the correct amount of TQ you would expect for a centrifugal blower on pump gas (not E85) making right at 1000 rwhp.
(like 1,200 crankshaft HP)
I see what you mean. Sorry I missed your original reply.
10-14-2015, 02:09 AM
#62
The kit removes about 25lbs off the car, with the swap.
And yes, we have LOTS of standard C7 customers enjoying our system for their road course cars, with no overheating issues at all. (well the auto trans cars, still have trans issues, but thats GM's issue, not ours) We have however had no ECT issues, or power reduction issues on tracked cars with our standard systems on stick cars.
And yes, we have LOTS of standard C7 customers enjoying our system for their road course cars, with no overheating issues at all. (well the auto trans cars, still have trans issues, but thats GM's issue, not ours) We have however had no ECT issues, or power reduction issues on tracked cars with our standard systems on stick cars.
A monkey could sell them! Lol
10-14-2015, 10:48 AM
#63
Melting Slicks
So it's lighter and runs cooler. You need to target the road race Z06 guys then! This is the ONLY current mod that's proven (get it to the track so you have the evidence) mod to keep ECT and EOT under control at the track. And it's lighter than stock to boot! Oh and it makes more power!
A monkey could sell them! Lol
A monkey could sell them! Lol
You either Turbo, or Centri.
10-14-2015, 11:11 AM
#64
Procharger Tech,
I was hoping to get more of a flow chart or compressor map answer rather than a "hey, I made 1460 rwhp!"
I'd like to know what the capabilities are. (I'm not new to building high HP rides or even building custom TT kits). I'd just like to know the limit of the F1X head unit that I just purchased for my C7Z.
I was hoping to get more of a flow chart or compressor map answer rather than a "hey, I made 1460 rwhp!"
I'd like to know what the capabilities are. (I'm not new to building high HP rides or even building custom TT kits). I'd just like to know the limit of the F1X head unit that I just purchased for my C7Z.
10-14-2015, 11:31 AM
#65
Team Owner
They are not going to share compressor maps/etc. F1X have gone mid 6s and made well in excess of 1600rwhp. 1500fwhp is cake for one if setup properly.
10-14-2015, 12:27 PM
#66
Former Vendor
Thread Starter
We have spent years and countless $$$$ and time, re-writing the book on what is possible with a Centrifugal compressor, to help our customers and racers dominate with a single power adder.
F-3R-136's doing battle against twin turbos
F-1A-94's going 7's in full weight cars
F-1X's pretty much killing the game on mega power street cars (and going 6's)
We aren't going to be giving away any of those compressor secrets anytime soon. Sorry about that.
The good news is there are LOTS of people running them, to gather data from. As well as our tech guys to point you in the correct direction. However I can say this, the "map" would only get you so far, the real guru's are the cam wizards. I have seen a 500-600hp swing in power levels on similar set ups and boost, that came down to the camshaft design. There is a big difference in the guys making 1,100 and those making 1,600 with the same blower.
F-3R-136's doing battle against twin turbos
F-1A-94's going 7's in full weight cars
F-1X's pretty much killing the game on mega power street cars (and going 6's)
We aren't going to be giving away any of those compressor secrets anytime soon. Sorry about that.
The good news is there are LOTS of people running them, to gather data from. As well as our tech guys to point you in the correct direction. However I can say this, the "map" would only get you so far, the real guru's are the cam wizards. I have seen a 500-600hp swing in power levels on similar set ups and boost, that came down to the camshaft design. There is a big difference in the guys making 1,100 and those making 1,600 with the same blower.
10-14-2015, 12:28 PM
#67
Former Vendor
Thread Starter
10-14-2015, 12:31 PM
#68
Former Vendor
Thread Starter
People always talk about F-1X's with big motors.
Figured I would leave this here.
Stock 5.3L block
Stock 5.3L crank
Rods/Pistons/Cam/Trick Flow Heads.
1400+ HP.
Figured I would leave this here.
Stock 5.3L block
Stock 5.3L crank
Rods/Pistons/Cam/Trick Flow Heads.
1400+ HP.
10-14-2015, 01:25 PM
#69
Melting Slicks
Centris like you guys make, are vastly more efficient than ANY roots period, and generate as a result a great deal less heat. Thermal conduction into a centri, is also nearly non existent (unlike a Roots).
I used to be just a turbo guy, but you guys, and paxton (with the Novi 2k and up) pretty much won me over. On any build at this point my first thought is usually "am I going to centri supercharge it or not"
All the power....half the hassle. And in cases like your company's kits (Which are by far the most complete out there that I've seen), not something that has to be cobbled together and mocked out more than a dozen times to make sure it'll fit. Best of all is unlike a roots, when you run up the rpms on the supercharger with a pulley swap it doesn't necessarily mean it's going to generate a ton more heat either.
Runs cooler, makes more power, better fuel economy than a roots. That's all the fun without the Suck factors of a roots.
Last edited by MavsAK; 10-14-2015 at 01:28 PM.
10-14-2015, 01:44 PM
#70
Former Vendor
Thread Starter
They drive Fords they're already one foot in the bucket.
Centris like you guys make, are vastly more efficient than ANY roots period, and generate as a result a great deal less heat. Thermal conduction into a centri, is also nearly non existent (unlike a Roots).
I used to be just a turbo guy, but you guys, and paxton (with the Novi 2k and up) pretty much won me over. On any build at this point my first thought is usually "am I going to centri supercharge it or not"
All the power....half the hassle. And in cases like your company's kits (Which are by far the most complete out there that I've seen), not something that has to be cobbled together and mocked out more than a dozen times to make sure it'll fit. Best of all is unlike a roots, when you run up the rpms on the supercharger with a pulley swap it doesn't necessarily mean it's going to generate a ton more heat either.
Runs cooler, makes more power, better fuel economy than a roots. That's all the fun without the Suck factors of a roots.
Centris like you guys make, are vastly more efficient than ANY roots period, and generate as a result a great deal less heat. Thermal conduction into a centri, is also nearly non existent (unlike a Roots).
I used to be just a turbo guy, but you guys, and paxton (with the Novi 2k and up) pretty much won me over. On any build at this point my first thought is usually "am I going to centri supercharge it or not"
All the power....half the hassle. And in cases like your company's kits (Which are by far the most complete out there that I've seen), not something that has to be cobbled together and mocked out more than a dozen times to make sure it'll fit. Best of all is unlike a roots, when you run up the rpms on the supercharger with a pulley swap it doesn't necessarily mean it's going to generate a ton more heat either.
Runs cooler, makes more power, better fuel economy than a roots. That's all the fun without the Suck factors of a roots.
Truth be spoken.
Thanks for the kind words, I will pass them onto the guys in Engineering. They don't get enough credit for the hard work they put in.
10-27-2015, 03:55 PM
#72
Former Vendor
Thread Starter
Since its a SEMA booth car, and SEMA is just days away.
I doubt much has been touched on the car.
Nothing gets companies more cranky, then a car not making it to the show. I am sure after the show more will be seen of this ride.
The "D-1SC" car down in TX I hear is making over 800rwhp, with NO CAM, on just boost, and headers and exhaust. So thats killer news.
I doubt much has been touched on the car.
Nothing gets companies more cranky, then a car not making it to the show. I am sure after the show more will be seen of this ride.
The "D-1SC" car down in TX I hear is making over 800rwhp, with NO CAM, on just boost, and headers and exhaust.
So thats killer news.
10-27-2015, 06:07 PM
#73
Former Vendor
Since its a SEMA booth car, and SEMA is just days away.
I doubt much has been touched on the car.
Nothing gets companies more cranky, then a car not making it to the show. I am sure after the show more will be seen of this ride.
The "D-1SC" car down in TX I hear is making over 800rwhp, with NO CAM, on just boost, and headers and exhaust. So thats killer news.
I doubt much has been touched on the car.
Nothing gets companies more cranky, then a car not making it to the show. I am sure after the show more will be seen of this ride.
The "D-1SC" car down in TX I hear is making over 800rwhp, with NO CAM, on just boost, and headers and exhaust.
So thats killer news.
10-27-2015, 07:52 PM
#74
Team Owner
Amp just posted 1020rwhp with the stock lt4 and F1X on facebook.
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10-27-2015, 08:48 PM
#76
Team Owner
822.
10-27-2015, 10:26 PM
#77
Safety Car
So stout for pump gas.
10-28-2015, 04:28 AM
#78
How long does the blower last at that psi? The f1r on my 96 lt-1 has gone bad on me twice now and you guys charge a arm and a leg to fix them. This last one was the last. I'm converting to single turbo and never looking back.
10-28-2015, 09:37 AM
#79
Former Vendor
Thread Starter
So reliable its been pretty much unchanged over the course of its life.
For nearly a decade it was a the "go to" race blower, until new higher HP models came out. (the C6 Forced induction section of this site is filled with them)
Its been a long long time since I have talked to you last, since I have worked here since nearly the day you purchased that blower, long long long ago. (over a decade?) That was pre-wide body kit, my memory is a bit fuzzy... LOL
Please feel free to send me a private message to discuss further.
Thanks
