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Old 10-12-2015, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Unreal
Other 48 states don't care? Which state are we forgetting about?

Great setup. First thing I would do if I had a c7z. Throw a F1A/X/R and let it eat.
Why put a sissy blower on it f1X or go home
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Because if you were only going to make ~950-1000 I think a R/A maybe better suited and have more low end. Not everyone wants 1400hp.
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Originally Posted by Unreal
Other 48 states don't care? Which state are we forgetting about?

Great setup. First thing I would do if I had a c7z. Throw a F1A/X/R and let it eat.
I can't remember which state it is that uses Cali laws (or is soon) so I was being generic with the 48

And yes for less then 1000HP the "A" would be a killer blower, due to the midrange boost curve it has.
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I have a question,......is the torque low on purpose because of something to do with the cylinder wall pressure? Being on the safe side. I thought I read something like that a while ago, unless I was mistaken?
I never got this question answered about the torque.
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Originally Posted by ProChargerTech
I can't remember which state it is that uses Cali laws (or is soon) so I was being generic with the 48
I think it's Washington. I know that you have to have the "California emissions legal option" on a Z06 if you want to register the car here.
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Originally Posted by tones_Z
I never got this question answered about the torque.
lol
I did answer it on post #6.....

This car literally will destroy a turned up factory blower on kill (on E85)
To the tune of over 200 ft lbs of TQ! and 300HP but on 93
In the power range that matters. (AKA, when you shift)
Nobody races from idle to 3,500 LOL.

This car makes the correct amount of TQ you would expect for a centrifugal blower on pump gas (not E85) making right at 1000 rwhp.
(like 1,200 crankshaft HP)
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What about a restricted f1x? surely that will have way more midrange than an A or an R ?

my 434 R and 434 X had near identical power curves below 5200ish
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Originally Posted by White_Lightning
What about a restricted f1x? surely that will have way more midrange than an A or an R ?

my 434 R and 434 X had near identical power curves below 5200ish

R and X are closer in relationship then an "A" to an "X"

The X takes less power to drive then the R.
So even though the boost curves likely didn't match.
The power levels likely did.
(Until the X walks away from the R up top)

But yes you could do that,
Though then your spending more money on a blower, not being used.
Just depends on the customer though.

Gotta think, there are now I believe (5) different F-1A-94's in the 7 second zone now on race cars. So yes, our little 9" blower (same size as our competitors entry level blower) is now in the 7's. Thats no small task... (pun intended)
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Old 10-13-2015, 12:34 PM
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Did somebody say Torque,https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...rbo-setup.html

~30lb boost, 1430whp, 1250wtq

The best of both worlds!

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Originally Posted by johnglenntwo
Did somebody say Torque,https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...rbo-setup.html

~30lb boost, 1430whp, 1250wtq

The best of both worlds!
We compound boosted 2003-04 cobras back in the day, as did many with turbos. However at that time it turned out at the track the factory blower ended up being a restriction when really pushing the power. And everyone just went with a single power adder.

The issue with the new C7 Z06 is the factory blower just does't have the flow path/intercooler cores to effectively support massive HP. The C6 ZR1 as you have posted has a better flow path for the compound set up. Not to mention the cost difference between modifications in the 992rwhp car I posted, and this C6 Zo6.

But then again, these cars already have traction issues in the down low RPM range. So unless its "dyno racing" those low RPM TQ numbers doesn't mean much other then bragging rights and tire smoke.

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Originally Posted by johnglenntwo
Did somebody say Torque,https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...rbo-setup.html

~30lb boost, 1430whp, 1250wtq

The best of both worlds!
you can make that power with just an f1x...

why all the crazyness?
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Default Old single screw!

Procharger even better!

Midrange!:

https://www.google.com/search?q=must...bLTzjJ5FX9o%3D


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But not wanting to detract from this post 700wtq which certainly is enough for most of us mere mortals, and perfect in a lighter rear Vette!


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Hey ProchargerTech,

How much FWHP can the F1X support? Realistically will it flow enough for 1500 FWHP?
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How well does the procharger handle partial throttle situations?

I've owned turbo cars that were basically on/off switches. This was mostly fine for straight line duties, but now that I'm much more interested in road course use, I want something that can provide smooth and consistent power at partial throttle applications anywhere in the RPM range.

The dyno looks great and I'd rather have the power over 4000 RPM.

Thanks!
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People have made 1500rwhp on F1X so 1500FWHP is cake.

Centris have very nice power curves and contrability.
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Originally Posted by EdwardETraylorIII
Hey ProchargerTech,

How much FWHP can the F1X support? Realistically will it flow enough for 1500 FWHP?
I made 1460 rwhp with more left in the tune and the blower through stock z06 catback..

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Originally Posted by johnglenntwo
Did somebody say Torque,https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...rbo-setup.html

~30lb boost, 1430whp, 1250wtq

The best of both worlds!
That reminds of this meme

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Originally Posted by johnglenntwo
But not wanting to detract from this post 700wtq which certainly is enough for most of us mere mortals, and perfect in a lighter rear Vette!

Exactly...

And look how long that TQ curve lasts.... ALL THE WAY TO THE END!
No Fade in acceleration... AKA, plant you in the seat till you shift. And REPEAT!


Originally Posted by EdwardETraylorIII
Hey ProchargerTech,

How much FWHP can the F1X support? Realistically will it flow enough for 1500 FWHP?
Your question is answered below. By White Lightning and Unreal

Originally Posted by schaibaa
How well does the procharger handle partial throttle situations?

I've owned turbo cars that were basically on/off switches. This was mostly fine for straight line duties, but now that I'm much more interested in road course use, I want something that can provide smooth and consistent power at partial throttle applications anywhere in the RPM range.

The dyno looks great and I'd rather have the power over 4000 RPM.

Thanks!
I own both a ProCharger car, and turbo car.
And one of the things I hate most (other then the lag) is the lack of part throttle. Its either all or nothing, and its super annoying.

Best thing about the ProCharger is the predictable power.
Being able to "pedal" the car, or roll out of the throttle like 15% to keep wheel spin down.

Originally Posted by Unreal
People have made 1500rwhp on F1X so 1500FWHP is cake.

Centris have very nice power curves and contrability.
Amen.

Originally Posted by White_Lightning
I made 1460 rwhp with more left in the tune and the blower through stock z06 catback..
Your car rocks, even more now that I realize its stock catback
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Originally Posted by ProChargerTech




Your car rocks, even more now that I realize its stock catback
i'm willing to bet that if actually PLANNED to make a big number with my setup.. we could have got 150 rwhp more out of it on boost alone

wait till you see some of the NEW AMP monsters coming


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