Question about fees
#5
Drifting
You can always try to negotiate that fee out of the price. I bought mine from MacMulkin a forum dealer with no added fees. I did the museum delivery so didn't need a courtesy dealer delivery.
#7
Turn 12!
Mine charged me $500 for Delivery from an out-of-state dealer for PDI. It is what it is....
#8
Melting Slicks
It's a typical screw tactic. I told dealers I'd walk away if they charge it and they wouldn't budge. Two dealers said they'd drop it to $75.
#9
Le Mans Master
Bought a Stingray Z51 from Harchelroad Motors in Imperial Nebraska in 2014, no fee. Bought a 2015 Z06 from Rimrock Chevrolet in Montana last year and was charged $500.00. Ordered a 2016 Z06 from Masid Chevrolet in Morrill Nebraska, get it end of June, no fee. Depends on the dealer.
#10
Le Mans Master
No doc fee on mine. Keep in mind that leasing companies can charge such a fee and unless the dealer is going to eat it for you, that's usually non-negotiable and not up to the dealer. That doesn't apply to purchases, just leases.
#11
$299 processing fee.... but the dealer agreed to go ahead and lower the negotiated price another $300 so it was a wash. Paperwork still says $299 processing fee though. They had to have it in there.
I have no idea why dealers do this. They end up losing sales over a measly couple hundred bucks. As a dealer you know what your bottom line is, just negotiate accordingly. There is no reason to leave your buyer with a bad taste in their mouth....
I have no idea why dealers do this. They end up losing sales over a measly couple hundred bucks. As a dealer you know what your bottom line is, just negotiate accordingly. There is no reason to leave your buyer with a bad taste in their mouth....
#13
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
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I brought it up where I bought My Z three weeks ago. The response was to try and sell me a bunch of high priced warrantees.
not too happy when I did not buy a roughly $500 package.
if they would have applied the $300 dealer fee to that I may have gone for it. No deal! The ZO6 is great though
not too happy when I did not buy a roughly $500 package.
if they would have applied the $300 dealer fee to that I may have gone for it. No deal! The ZO6 is great though
#14
Race Director
$299 processing fee.... but the dealer agreed to go ahead and lower the negotiated price another $300 so it was a wash. Paperwork still says $299 processing fee though. They had to have it in there.
I have no idea why dealers do this. They end up losing sales over a measly couple hundred bucks. As a dealer you know what your bottom line is, just negotiate accordingly. There is no reason to leave your buyer with a bad taste in their mouth....
I have no idea why dealers do this. They end up losing sales over a measly couple hundred bucks. As a dealer you know what your bottom line is, just negotiate accordingly. There is no reason to leave your buyer with a bad taste in their mouth....
The way I figure it, the so-called "mandatory doc fee", regardless of the amount, is nothing more than a means for a dealership to sell cars at prices that are higher than advertised, plain and simple. I'm embarrassed every time I have to present the fee to a customer. The fact that most dealers now stoop to this practice in no way justifies it IMO.
The best advice I can offer is, when comparing prices among dealers, compare the sum of selling price + doc fee; that's the only way to do a fair price comparison.
#15
Pro
Paid $ 80.00 last year for Document Processing Fee when I bought my Z but here in Calif they also nickel and dime you to death. Along with ;
Calif.Tire Fee $ 7.00
Smog Abatement Fee $ 20.00
Reg. Title Fee $ 81.00
Elect. Trans Fee $ 29.00
License Fee $ 573.00
And last but not least Calif sales tax that I paid $ 6950.87
Calif.Tire Fee $ 7.00
Smog Abatement Fee $ 20.00
Reg. Title Fee $ 81.00
Elect. Trans Fee $ 29.00
License Fee $ 573.00
And last but not least Calif sales tax that I paid $ 6950.87
#16
Dealer perspective
First off I hate "blue sky" fee's of any time-on home mortgages, anything. But as a boat dealership owner I may have a bit of a different perspective. We have to license boat trailers at the Department of Motor Vehicles and boats at Texas Parks and wildlife. We used to not charge a documentation fee. Here's our exact experience a few weeks ago:
-Drove 27 miles to TPW. New requirement-they now have to have a copy of the buyers drivers license. Registration aborted.
-Drove 4 miles to the satellite DMV station. Computers were down. Registration aborted.
-Two days later-repeat process-successfully registered boat.
-Drove to satellite DMV for trailer registration. They changed policy-they now only process dealers after 3pm. I was there at 2:35 pm. Had to be somewhere else at 3pm. Repeated process yet a third time.
Plus I have to buy a dealers license at $500/year, etc. Dealers insurance, yadda, yadda.
I asked a couple of larger boat and car dealers how they do it. One large Chevrolet dealer in Bastrop pretty much pays one person full time to run registration materials over to the DMV. They batch them up in to about 20 or more registrations at once. BTW-my dealers license states that I am an extension of the state tax office and have to, by law, execute these registrations on new boat sales-and am liable for any mis-information-even if the buyer mis-informs me (fake identity I guess).
The good news is that Texas DMV has just announced a program that we can register new owners over the computer. That will be awesome.
Long story short-we lose money on registering new boats charging a $200.00 fee-it basically eats up half a day driving around to get these registrations done. We could eat it-but margins are slim and overhead goes up with higher insurance, rent, etc. The more expensive it is to do business the more expensive our products will be for all of us. Not a good thing. Performing registrations and collecting taxes is one of the real PITA's for a dealer.
On used boats if the client is interested in saving the $200.00 fee I am happy for them to go knock themselves out! In fact I have started recommending that they do it.
-Drove 27 miles to TPW. New requirement-they now have to have a copy of the buyers drivers license. Registration aborted.
-Drove 4 miles to the satellite DMV station. Computers were down. Registration aborted.
-Two days later-repeat process-successfully registered boat.
-Drove to satellite DMV for trailer registration. They changed policy-they now only process dealers after 3pm. I was there at 2:35 pm. Had to be somewhere else at 3pm. Repeated process yet a third time.
Plus I have to buy a dealers license at $500/year, etc. Dealers insurance, yadda, yadda.
I asked a couple of larger boat and car dealers how they do it. One large Chevrolet dealer in Bastrop pretty much pays one person full time to run registration materials over to the DMV. They batch them up in to about 20 or more registrations at once. BTW-my dealers license states that I am an extension of the state tax office and have to, by law, execute these registrations on new boat sales-and am liable for any mis-information-even if the buyer mis-informs me (fake identity I guess).
The good news is that Texas DMV has just announced a program that we can register new owners over the computer. That will be awesome.
Long story short-we lose money on registering new boats charging a $200.00 fee-it basically eats up half a day driving around to get these registrations done. We could eat it-but margins are slim and overhead goes up with higher insurance, rent, etc. The more expensive it is to do business the more expensive our products will be for all of us. Not a good thing. Performing registrations and collecting taxes is one of the real PITA's for a dealer.
On used boats if the client is interested in saving the $200.00 fee I am happy for them to go knock themselves out! In fact I have started recommending that they do it.
#17
Platinum Supporting Dealership
So, in the case of Kerbeck, it's up to you if there are fees or not. It all depends on who does the DMV work.
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#18
I bought mine from MacMulkin and they don't charge a dealer fee.
A couple days earlier I was looking at a new Mazda Miata for my wife and was told the dealer fee was $899. by the manager. I told him that was crazy and his sarcastic remark was "well, how do you think we pay all these people here". That's when I walked.
A couple days earlier I was looking at a new Mazda Miata for my wife and was told the dealer fee was $899. by the manager. I told him that was crazy and his sarcastic remark was "well, how do you think we pay all these people here". That's when I walked.
Last edited by StevieK; 05-10-2016 at 02:01 PM.
#19
Mine was a MacMulkin purchase delivered at the museum and since I took care of the home state paperwork there was no dealer fee.
Filing the paperwork was fairly fast and painless except when I got home from the state facility the message light was flashing on my home phone and it was from the DMV. The clerk wanted me to return as soon as possible because he thought he had given me the wrong paperwork back. Rather than make another 50 mile round trip I called and found he thought he had given the certificate of origin back to me by mistake; fortunately another clerk found it because I knew I didn't have it. Pretty impressive that in less than 5 minutes the DMV could misplace a pretty important piece of paperwork.
Filing the paperwork was fairly fast and painless except when I got home from the state facility the message light was flashing on my home phone and it was from the DMV. The clerk wanted me to return as soon as possible because he thought he had given me the wrong paperwork back. Rather than make another 50 mile round trip I called and found he thought he had given the certificate of origin back to me by mistake; fortunately another clerk found it because I knew I didn't have it. Pretty impressive that in less than 5 minutes the DMV could misplace a pretty important piece of paperwork.
#20
Drifting
Bought a Stingray Z51 from Harchelroad Motors in Imperial Nebraska in 2014, no fee. Bought a 2015 Z06 from Rimrock Chevrolet in Montana last year and was charged $500.00. Ordered a 2016 Z06 from Masid Chevrolet in Morrill Nebraska, get it end of June, no fee. Depends on the dealer.
Next up, a 2017