johnssss

Hey guys

I currently have a 2011 Grandsport and am looking at getting a new Z06. I recently drove a auto Zo6 and it felt very fast. I want to get a manual but have driven two and they just don't feel as fast as the auto. I realize the auto is faster due to transmission but the manual felt considerably slower Did GM tune the manuals differently. Any of you guys that have tested both notice this too?

Thanks. John

3 Z06ZR1

The difference is the gearing. The A8 has a 10.99 over all low in first
The M7 has a 7.96 in 1st. The A8 is going to win the 0-60.

It is a trade off the A8 quicker 0-60
vs the manual much more a driver experience.

Then you have to remember we are talking .2-.3 tenths of second.
Then once going 60 or so the 0-60 advantage goes away with the advantage back to the M7.

Go drive both decide for yourself no one can decide for you which to buy.
Both great.

Rjhctrapp

There is no automatic that can replace the connection between you and a manual transmission car. I love the feeling of me and the car working together. I also have a grand sport, manual transmission, unless I was to loose an arm or leg, I'll always choose the extension of the car to me through a manual transmission.

mowe

Raced an auto from 50 roll... Stock for stock and I won. For what it's worth.

DRLC5

Raced a stick both of us have cai, I won all 3 runs, Two from 50 to 120ish and 1 from 40..It has alot to do with the driver behind the stick, also the auto should have "Performance Shift Active" when roll running, makes a big difference. Both great cars. Drive both the choice is up to you..

7.0ltrpower

M7 fur sure....

..But..... nice to have a choice too.

davester

My only experience with my M7 Vs A8 on a Z07 a few weeks back at RPM Raceway, Pacific Jct, Iowa. Last turn coming onto main straight is a fairly tight right hander with speed at apex normally 40 mph or so. I was down shifting to 2nd for the turn and was tailing the Z07 going in. We both cleared the apex and came onto straight door to door and my M7 left him in the dust. Perhaps he was moving paddles manually or something, but I sure liked the way my car pulled. Not really a driver experience discrepancy since it was basically a drag race.

sTz

I am certain that any difference in speed or/and acceleration would not be noticeable as it's only a few 10ths of a second. If you noticed that it felt "considerably" slower, then you're not driving it properly.

b4i4getit

Its all in the gearing. I would be wary of the A8 with all the transmission problems they have been facing. Also if you have any desire to track I think the manual would be a better choice.

bradc6

Here we go again.

thrilled

A8 0-60 2.9 sec. M7 0-60 3.1 seconds. I can't feel the difference in 2/10's of A second.

Bill Dearborn

In manual mode the shifting experience is pretty much the same between the two. You are just as involved in controlling the car through the paddles as you would be through a stick coming up from the tunnel the only difference is the location of your hand and the fact you aren't pumping a clutch pedal with your left foot. Deciding what gear to be in and how much to hit the throttle is still the driver's choice which is all you do with the manual. The driver can still screw up the selection. Since the A8 has a better selection of gears it kills the manual in acceleration off from slow corners. Once the cornering speed increases into the 50s and above they are pretty much equally matched. At cornering speeds above 80 or 90 mph the only thing that matters is how big the Cajones are.

There are tracks where you can enter a series of turns at over 100 mph and exit them at over 140. While you are doing this you are pulling some high lateral Gs and need to be aware of car balance as you go from left to right and back. If a shift is required in that kind of a sequence I suspect it would be easier to do it in the A8 than the M7. The A8 wouldn't interrupt the power flow to the rear wheels as severely as pushing in the clutch, moving the shifter and releasing the clutch which can really change car balance if not done at the correct time.

Bill

thrilled

The biggest problem is when going around A turn using the paddles
Might be trying to find them because of the turn of the steering wheel.
I would have liked to have all 8 gears on the floor.T way it
wouldn't bother me what position the steering wheel was at.

jaden61

One of the first things taught at Corvette Owner School is that on the track you would generally select your gear (brake/shift) before the corner whether it be a manual or an automatic.
Here are your 8 steps in cornering.

rrm

No way! I have tried everyway I can to beat 3.6 0-60 in my A8. Can't do it and it's driving me nuts. My wife has a 2014 GTMC Mazi with 445hp and I can just beat her.
I know you guys will say its me and maybe it is but this is how I a doing it.
floor the break,,,floor the accelerator...engine backs down to about 2k on the tack...let fly...3.6 to 3.8 according to the car.
I am in track mode with the double punch on the button. I get 0 wheel spin, none. I couldn't do a burn out if I wanted to. So what am I doing wrong!!!! rrm

thrilled

I believe only A true professional can get times like that.I watch motor week and they say they get the same times as the manufacturer does.
Motortrend also.Don't feel bad most of us can't reach those times.

docb

You think that's hard. Try to match EPA fuel mileage numbers.

ZoratZ06

That's surprising in an A8...I can regularly get 3.5 in my M7 on normal streets and slightly better on the strip. I think there are a couple guys on here at 3.0 in the M7. Unless the surface is crap and the weather is harsh I would think low 3s would be fairly easy in an A8. I'm also very surprised there is zero wheel spin...the only car I've ever seen do that and still launch hard is the tesla! Maybe you're not getting all of the power down.

conlaurant

Road conditions, ambient temp, settings, tires etc all play a role. I get some wheel spin ( dry) almost all the time.

punky

What are "all the transmissions problems" they are facing?