Leather conditioner on Napa Leather?
08-02-2016, 03:54 PM
#21
The leather used today is coated. Nothing can penetrate the top coat. Don't believe it ? Place a few drops of water of your seats and watch it sit there. All the fancy conditioners you apply are a huge waste of money. If it makes you feel good spend your money on these things but they do nothing but add a nice smell to the plastic coated top. 
Keep repeating what you have heard and ignore what actually works.
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08-03-2016, 01:02 PM
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The leather used today is coated. Nothing can penetrate the top coat. Don't believe it ? Place a few drops of water of your seats and watch it sit there. All the fancy conditioners you apply are a huge waste of money. If it makes you feel good spend your money on these things but they do nothing but add a nice smell to the plastic coated top.
Rubber gaskets don't soak water either but they get hard and the PB2 will soak in and soften it the same thing with the seats.
You can take a 1967 Corvette dash board rock hard . It will ALSO brings back hard stiff WIPER BLADES just soak in the PB2 on for 1 week spraying on the PB2 every day and the material softness will return
The coated leather story doesn't matter the PB2 product DOES
soak in. I was turned to it by a leather and vinyl shop 30 years ago.
The shop bought it by the drum.
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08-04-2016, 08:57 AM
#24
Le Mans Master
You must sell the stuff. If it won't absorb water molecules it won't absorb an oil product either. Its either porous or its not. Read your manual.
11-06-2016, 03:06 PM
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Racer
I see all the back and forth...the only fact that I can discern is that the leather is cheap. Undisputed.
I have two products that I used for the interior of my vehicles and they are both excellent: Vinlex for vinyl and Lexol for leather. But our leather has a vinyl coating. So my question is this:
Which one or combination of the two should I use on my 3LZ interior seats, dash, door panels etc?
I have two products that I used for the interior of my vehicles and they are both excellent: Vinlex for vinyl and Lexol for leather. But our leather has a vinyl coating. So my question is this:
Which one or combination of the two should I use on my 3LZ interior seats, dash, door panels etc?
11-06-2016, 03:27 PM
#26
they do not "dry out and crack"
over time, they develop creases from weight/pressure and then those cracks fill with dirt, which sands its way through the coating then leather.
Keep them clean and it won't happen.
Last edited by Spacewalker; 11-06-2016 at 03:27 PM.
11-06-2016, 04:52 PM
#27
Le Mans Master
And yet treatment with Zaino leather in a bottle leaves the leather softer, more flexible, looking great and the interior smelling like new leather. I really don't care if its coated or not. The product works as intended on the leather seats, dash steering wheel and console. I've seen what 5 year old C6s look like that have not been treated....yep, time for a new vette. Exactly what GM wants.
Just because its 'coated' does not make it sealed or that a good conditioner will not be absorbed. It plainly does.
Just because its 'coated' does not make it sealed or that a good conditioner will not be absorbed. It plainly does.
01-18-2017, 12:22 PM
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anyone who thinks conditioners get absorbed into your seat skins or dash should do a simple test. Take a single drop of water, and put it anywhere on any leather or vinyl surface of your interior. The water drop should remain a drop of water. If it is absorbed into the leather or vinyl, you have already destroyed the waterproof sealer that all C5 interiors are protected by. If you use a disulfide product, many are, it will remove that coating over time. I asked maguires to release an MSDS REPORT, they did not comply..I could make them release one but because they refused, I won't even attempt to test one of their products on my car. Silicones and disulfides ( which are acid anhydride ). and automotive leathers and vinyls are not the best product to use on your car. Lots of marketing and hype.. these manufacturers want to get that coating ( seat ) off your leather and vinyl so your car will be dependant on their product, which look great after you reapply them.
Sorry for the long winded post... just some things you should know.
Bill aha ET
Sorry for the long winded post... just some things you should know.
Bill aha ET
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01-18-2017, 07:41 PM
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Le Mans Master
And yet treatment with Zaino leather in a bottle leaves the leather softer, more flexible, looking great and the interior smelling like new leather. I really don't care if its coated or not. The product works as intended on the leather seats, dash steering wheel and console. I've seen what 5 year old C6s look like that have not been treated....yep, time for a new vette. Exactly what GM wants.
Just because its 'coated' does not make it sealed or that a good conditioner will not be absorbed. It plainly does.
Just because its 'coated' does not make it sealed or that a good conditioner will not be absorbed. It plainly does.
Clif
01-18-2017, 09:33 PM
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Question about Suede like inserts in my C6 GS
Hi, I just got a C6 Grand Sport with the two tone seats. The outer edges are shiny leather but the seat and back inserts are like a brushed/suede material. How do I clean this and what if anything should I put on it to protect it from stains and wear? I live in FL so I'm a little worried that sweating will cause stains that I can't get out.
01-18-2017, 10:47 PM
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I have never really focused on my leather interiors before, but the leather dash on my 3LZ baking in the sun has me wondering if I should protect it, and my though would be if I put conditioner on the dash, I should do the other leather surfaces as well. I have some Adams "GM" leather conditioner. Has anybody used this on their 3LZ interior? Does it make the leather shiny or slippery? I am just interested in protecting and preserving the leather....I don't want that armorall shininess/slipperiness.
First world problems.....
Thanks in advance.
First world problems.....
Thanks in advance.
With a sun shade or car cover. (or a dash cover, but they are tacky).
You can clean all the "leather" surfaces with a damp cloth . (I use distilled water in a spray bottle).
Stubborn stains, Adams leather/interior cleaner is great, especially the steering wheel and shift ****.
For carpet, I use Folex.
Last edited by Florida2000; 01-18-2017 at 10:47 PM.
04-08-2019, 05:47 PM
#33
I'll stick with what the manufacturer says and I will also ignore the tin hat "GM wants you to ruin your interior by using a damp cloth" conspiracists.
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04-08-2019, 09:40 PM
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Gentlemen, this is an age-old argument! At the end of the day, you must make your own decision that you're most comfortable with. There are MANY great suggestions in this thread. Read it and decide what is best for you and your car.
04-09-2019, 11:10 AM
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Drifting
My issue with my Kalahari interior (and that of my BMW's Cognac) leather is Blue Jean dye transfer. Has any found something really good to clean this off? I have used Lexol and I believe that warm water with a little mild soap would work as well. But it still is difficult to get all off completely. Once clean I use a cheap auto parts store tan seat cover. Not pretty but it does minimize the dye transfer. Take it off for shows. --Bob