Leather conditioner on Napa Leather?
#1
Leather conditioner on Napa Leather?
I have never really focused on my leather interiors before, but the leather dash on my 3LZ baking in the sun has me wondering if I should protect it, and my though would be if I put conditioner on the dash, I should do the other leather surfaces as well. I have some Adams "GM" leather conditioner. Has anybody used this on their 3LZ interior? Does it make the leather shiny or slippery? I am just interested in protecting and preserving the leather....I don't want that armorall shininess/slipperiness.
First world problems.....
Thanks in advance.
First world problems.....
Thanks in advance.
#3
Le Mans Master
https://www.goldeagle.com/tips-tools...her-upholstery
"The protective, plastic surface of vinyl-coated leather makes it virtually care-free. There’s no need to use a leather conditioner, since it won’t be absorbed."
"The protective, plastic surface of vinyl-coated leather makes it virtually care-free. There’s no need to use a leather conditioner, since it won’t be absorbed."
Last edited by BOBSZ06; 08-01-2016 at 10:09 AM.
#4
https://www.goldeagle.com/tips-tools...her-upholstery
"The protective, plastic surface of vinyl-coated leather makes it virtually care-free. There’s no need to use a leather conditioner, since it won’t be absorbed."
"The protective, plastic surface of vinyl-coated leather makes it virtually care-free. There’s no need to use a leather conditioner, since it won’t be absorbed."
Thanks. It is my understanding that the "Mulan" leather of the 2LZ is vinyl coated/bonded leather, but that the Napa leather of the 3LZ is "real" leather and is not plastic or vinyl coated.........thus my question. I could be wrong, though....
#5
Drifting
Both versions of C7 leather are coated.
#6
And yet treatment with Zaino leather in a bottle leaves the leather softer, more flexible, looking great and the interior smelling like new leather. I really don't care if its coated or not. The product works as intended on the leather seats, dash steering wheel and console. I've seen what 5 year old C6s look like that have not been treated....yep, time for a new vette. Exactly what GM wants.
Just because its 'coated' does not make it sealed or that a good conditioner will not be absorbed. It plainly does.
Just because its 'coated' does not make it sealed or that a good conditioner will not be absorbed. It plainly does.
#7
Drifting
From an automotive leather manufacturer: http://www.eagleottawa.com/about-leather/leather-care/
And yet treatment with Zaino leather in a bottle leaves the leather softer, more flexible, looking great and the interior smelling like new leather. I really don't care if its coated or not. The product works as intended on the leather seats, dash steering wheel and console. I've seen what 5 year old C6s look like that have not been treated....yep, time for a new vette. Exactly what GM wants.
Just because its 'coated' does not make it sealed or that a good conditioner will not be absorbed. It plainly does.
Just because its 'coated' does not make it sealed or that a good conditioner will not be absorbed. It plainly does.
#8
From an automotive leather manufacturer: http://www.eagleottawa.com/about-leather/leather-care/
I am telling you what works and how from first hand specific experience.
Vinyl is a plastic material as well and yet protectant / conditioners of the correct type keep it working and looking new for many years even in direct sunshine.
Last edited by jcthorne; 08-01-2016 at 11:34 AM.
#9
Drifting
I worked as a program manager for an OEM seat manufacturer for several years. The supplier of the leather stated to me several times that conditioners are ineffective and to use the cleaning method recommended by them and the OEMs. If you want to spend money and put in effort to apply conditioners that is certainly your prerogative. I will go with what the leather manufacturer recommends.
And your point? You are spouting web sites about generalities.
I am telling you what works and how from first hand specific experience.
Vinyl is a plastic material as well and yet protectant / conditioners of the correct type keep it working and looking new for many years even in direct sunshine.
I am telling you what works and how from first hand specific experience.
Vinyl is a plastic material as well and yet protectant / conditioners of the correct type keep it working and looking new for many years even in direct sunshine.
#10
I worked as a program manager for an OEM seat manufacturer for several years. The supplier of the leather stated to me several times that conditioners are ineffective and to use the cleaning method recommended by them and the OEMs. If you want to spend money and put in effort to apply conditioners that is certainly your prerogative. I will go with what the leather manufacturer recommends.
#11
Drifting
Sorry, I don't believe the OEMs are downgrading the maintenance instructions in order to sell replacement parts, sell new cars or to reduce maintenance costs. When I worked on seats there was constant pressure from the OEMs to make the seating surface more robust. This is the reason coated leathers were invented. There is much better wear and resistance to staining with the coated leathers. I know of no OEM or leather manufacturer who commends anything but mild soap and water for cleaning.
Last edited by Boiler_81; 08-01-2016 at 04:39 PM.
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#12
Sorry, I don't believe the OEMs are downgrading the maintenance instructions in order to sell replacement parts, sell new cars or to reduce maintenance costs. When I worked on seats there was constant pressure from the OEMs to make the seating surface more robust. This is the reason coated leathers were invented. There is much better wear and resistance to staining with the coated leathers. I know of no OEM or leather manufacturer who commends anything but mild soap and water for cleaning.
#13
Drifting
I am not an expert on leather, I am passing information from the leather suppliers I worked with. I do know they insisted the best care for automotive seats was keeping the surfaces clean with mild soap and water.
#14
Melting Slicks
Mulan leather could never be sold as leather, only marketed through car seat sales. They are garbage leather strips chewed up and bonded together and, if you look real close, they do not have a leather grain. It would be similar to weiners being marketed a true beef. It can also be described as spam.
Having said that, I have heard and read many complaints where people didn't like the wear of their NAPA leather after awhile, or even the suede inserts, whereas mulan leather appears to wear very well.
I had this exact conversation at a car show yesterday, in fact, where a 3LZ owner showed me how loose the leather on his seat had become where he sits... I wonder if this is really common? At first, I was a bit pissed I never knew what Mulan was as I would have went with NAPA...but not so sure anymore. Obligatory interior pik... 20k miles...
Having said that, I have heard and read many complaints where people didn't like the wear of their NAPA leather after awhile, or even the suede inserts, whereas mulan leather appears to wear very well.
I had this exact conversation at a car show yesterday, in fact, where a 3LZ owner showed me how loose the leather on his seat had become where he sits... I wonder if this is really common? At first, I was a bit pissed I never knew what Mulan was as I would have went with NAPA...but not so sure anymore. Obligatory interior pik... 20k miles...
Last edited by AllFlash; 08-01-2016 at 09:12 PM.
#15
Le Mans Master
The leather used today is coated. Nothing can penetrate the top coat. Don't believe it ? Place a few drops of water of your seats and watch it sit there. All the fancy conditioners you apply are a huge waste of money. If it makes you feel good spend your money on these things but they do nothing but add a nice smell to the plastic coated top.
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#16
Mulan leather could never be sold as leather, only marketed through car seat sales. They are garbage leather strips chewed up and bonded together and, if you look real close, they do not have a leather grain. It would be similar to weiners being marketed a true beef. It can also be described as spam.
Having said that, I have heard and read many complaints where people didn't like the wear of their NAPA leather after awhile, or even the suede inserts, whereas mulan leather appears to wear very well.
I had this exact conversation at a car show yesterday, in fact, where a 3LZ owner showed me how loose the leather on his seat had become where he sits... I wonder if this is really common? At first, I was a bit pissed I never knew what Mulan was as I would have went with NAPA...but not so sure anymore. Obligatory interior pik... 20k miles...
Having said that, I have heard and read many complaints where people didn't like the wear of their NAPA leather after awhile, or even the suede inserts, whereas mulan leather appears to wear very well.
I had this exact conversation at a car show yesterday, in fact, where a 3LZ owner showed me how loose the leather on his seat had become where he sits... I wonder if this is really common? At first, I was a bit pissed I never knew what Mulan was as I would have went with NAPA...but not so sure anymore. Obligatory interior pik... 20k miles...
The Napa leather in my 3LZ looks and feels like the upgraded leather in my two Cadillac CTS-V's. Smoother and more supple, and wore very well for the 5-6 years of ownership of each CTS-V (about 35K miles on each car when sold). Much better than the cheaper Suburban LT leather. I hope the Napa wears the same as the CTS-V leather.
I am small and light and don't squirm around in the seat, so maybe that has something to do with it, but the cheaper leather showed wear after a few years where the upgraded leather did not.
YMMV.
#17
Le Mans Master
The leather used today is coated. Nothing can penetrate the top coat. Don't believe it ? Place a few drops of water of your seats and watch it sit there. All the fancy conditioners you apply are a huge waste of money. If it makes you feel good spend your money on these things but they do nothing but add a nice smell to the plastic coated top.
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Boo yah!
I have never really focused on my leather interiors before, but the leather dash on my 3LZ baking in the sun has me wondering if I should protect it, and my though would be if I put conditioner on the dash, I should do the other leather surfaces as well. I have some Adams "GM" leather conditioner. Has anybody used this on their 3LZ interior? Does it make the leather shiny or slippery? I am just interested in protecting and preserving the leather....I don't want that armorall shininess/slipperiness.
First world problems.....
Thanks in advance.
First world problems.....
Thanks in advance.
There is a product called boo yah leather conditioner, it will leave your leather feeling soft and moisturized - 3lz corvette leather comes a bit dry from the factory - compared to P-cars, put this stuff on - be a bit generous with it like a pea sized amount per square foot and work it into the leather a bit in circular motions then let it dry, you will see the results the next day , really cool product leaves leather soft to the touch , no gloss or oily look or feeling - just perfectly moisturized leather.
Interesting , as I'm writing this , the product has a different name now I liked the name boo yah better... Link below
https://www.amazon.com/Kevian-Clean-...ywords=Boo+yah
Last edited by JonaOhana; 08-02-2016 at 05:27 AM.
#19
Burning Brakes
One point that has not yet been raised is the fact that Adam's Leather Conditioner has UV protection so if you believe that at least some of the sun damage to leather over time is from UV, the applying this conditioner should help.
#20
Le Mans Master
Won't matter since as soon as you sit in the seat if will rub off on your clothes since it will not be absorbed in the plastic coating.