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C7 ZR1 at Laguna Seca today

Old 03-19-2017, 10:06 PM
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It sure is...but I wish it wasn't.
There are already 8 models of corvette for you to choose from without the tallest cowl.
Old 03-20-2017, 10:33 AM
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John, the ZO6 that was running was most likely a 2018 specification. It looked identical to the 2017 though.




And/Or

That was a baseline prototype SC only bump Z06 test that may never see production? Nothing written in stone!


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There is no way there should be any production FI sports car, let alone a Corvette, without adequate cooling for what it is intended to do, period!

Let us hope this time (2017 ZL1)!

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Maybe it doesn't mean anything, but dealers are taking deposits on the ZR1.
Old 03-25-2017, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by djnice
Maybe it doesn't mean anything, but dealers are taking deposits on the ZR1.
The current rumors and drawings of active aero on C7 with GM patent application in attachment below is likely fueling deposits.

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2017/03/...r-c7-corvette/

We’re still unsure as to what the hardcore, track-ready Corvette prototype will be called when it decides to show face, but the media at large has dubbed it the next ZR1. While the jury is out on the name, a new GM patent has spoiled a surprise for the upcoming car.
Patents, first discovered by AutoGuide, detail an active aerodynamic system for the C7 Corvette. Specifically, the patents show a basic layout of what look like the C7 Corvette ZR1 prototype we’ve spied on numerous occasions. The patent was filed on March 23, 2017, and is for “vehicle ride-height determination for control of vehicle aerodynamics.”
The patent spoils various elements involved with the Corvette’s active aero system, which includes an adjustable spoiler, an air dam, a splitter, a diffuser and shutter. These components would all adjust per data fed into the system.

Additionally, the patent goes on to state the system features “a mechanism configured to vary a position of the adjustable aerodynamic-aid element relative to the vehicle body to thereby control a movement of the ambient airflow relative to the vehicle body.” Images also detail a sensor used to detect the ride height of the vehicle and cross check it against a reference frame. A controller can then tell the system to regulate aero based on the sensor’s readings.
It’s a pretty serious system for the Corvette and it shows, whatever track-focused model this turns out to be, the car truly means business.












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Old 03-25-2017, 06:16 PM
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Default Voodoo 2 Viper out SuperVette in!

Motorweek's Viper story just aired and we see a Corvette upgrade for the future.
The Hurican Performante has this stuff so a world class response here!!!!!(A Fun 2017 Summer!)

It may be a load reducing necessity too!

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Did anyone see anything?
Old 03-25-2017, 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by NemesisC5
The current rumors and drawings of active aero on C7 with GM patent application in attachment below is likely fueling deposits.

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2017/03/...r-c7-corvette/

We’re still unsure as to what the hardcore, track-ready Corvette prototype will be called when it decides to show face, but the media at large has dubbed it the next ZR1. While the jury is out on the name, a new GM patent has spoiled a surprise for the upcoming car.
Patents, first discovered by AutoGuide, detail an active aerodynamic system for the C7 Corvette. Specifically, the patents show a basic layout of what look like the C7 Corvette ZR1 prototype we’ve spied on numerous occasions. The patent was filed on March 23, 2017, and is for “vehicle ride-height determination for control of vehicle aerodynamics.”
The patent spoils various elements involved with the Corvette’s active aero system, which includes an adjustable spoiler, an air dam, a splitter, a diffuser and shutter. These components would all adjust per data fed into the system.

Additionally, the patent goes on to state the system features “a mechanism configured to vary a position of the adjustable aerodynamic-aid element relative to the vehicle body to thereby control a movement of the ambient airflow relative to the vehicle body.” Images also detail a sensor used to detect the ride height of the vehicle and cross check it against a reference frame. A controller can then tell the system to regulate aero based on the sensor’s readings.
It’s a pretty serious system for the Corvette and it shows, whatever track-focused model this turns out to be, the car truly means business.












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Apparently GM is going to abandon leaf springs. And move the engine about 18" forward in the chassis.
Those sketches are so inaccurate and askew I doubt they're anything more than the product of some engineering grad school student's project.
The patent applications that have been discussed ad nauseum for the last several years have produced nothing that was speculated for Corvette development. This is probably something along the lines of the recently invented term of "fake news".
It is, however, comical that people will fuel speculation for months and years while sitting idle on the sidelines.
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Absolutely, is just the ticket for ACR supremacy ($135K).

Have any Vette's come with DSSV shocks and adjustable ride heights:

http://www.motortrend.com/news/2018-...z28-successor/

I hope Not!


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It is also important to remember patents don't necessarily mean something will be produced based upon them.
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Originally Posted by Snorman
Apparently GM is going to abandon leaf springs. And move the engine about 18" forward in the chassis.
Those sketches are so inaccurate and askew I doubt they're anything more than the product of some engineering grad school student's project.
The patent applications that have been discussed ad nauseum for the last several years have produced nothing that was speculated for Corvette development. This is probably something along the lines of the recently invented term of "fake news".
It is, however, comical that people will fuel speculation for months and years while sitting idle on the sidelines.
S.
It's comical how some only feel relevant when speaking negative...however it's much safer than dare risk being wrong
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Originally Posted by johnglenntwo
Did anyone see anything?
I didn't see anything that looked like active aero on either low or high winged ZR1's. They appeared to be adjustable but were still a fixed wing.
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The Hurican Performante is AWD with active aero! And the Viper is NA with that huge Aero! And:

https://www.gofundme.com/take-back-the-ring-record

The clock is ticking, and it looks like in as little as six weeks (including the weather!) the Dodge crowd could be ready!

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Old 03-27-2017, 11:33 AM
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Doing the Mazda/Ring ACR theoretical math:

1:33.92/7:12.13 = 1:28.65/6:47.88


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Originally Posted by skank
I didn't see anything that looked like active aero on either low or high winged ZR1's. They appeared to be adjustable but were still a fixed wing.
The patent application details a number of variable surfaces, sensors and controllers some or all of which may not be on the cars seen. The patent application seems to have as many ride height control mechanisms (active suspension) as it does aero surface controls. I'd be surprised if 50% of control mechanisms make it into production in upcoming ZR1's observed at track.

Rumors of Mustang with additional static aero and possibly variable control surfaces are popping up as well.
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It's the next BIG THING in performance.
F1 developed active aero decades ago, but it was outlawed.
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Originally Posted by sunsalem
It's the next BIG THING in performance.
F1 developed active aero decades ago, but it was outlawed.
Yes and also outlawed "ground effects" static tunneling on cars underside.

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Default Reinventing the wheel!? :(

Let's see, the Vette's have a transaxle type transmission and an electronic differential over the ACR, but:

http://www.hotrod.com/articles/the-2...ow-does-it-do/

; It's standard operation engineering procedure to go after and beat a competitors technology one piece at a time. The Vette's smaller aero compared to the Viper is probably evidence of that. This will yield less drag and more straight line speed! The Ediff. is more precise and considering the transaxle too nets a measure of compliance missing in the Viper. Better Corvette electronics!?
It would seem all is good, and there simply is now a Corvette very competitive to a very fast Viper!

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https://www.mercedes-benz.com/en/mer...cs-explained/#

A rumor is a ZR1 with turbos, and hey this competition Benz has active aero! (turbos in the valley!)

I'm ready!!!!

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