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After going back and forth, I am decided that I will go for the Z07 package. Thanks for all the comments. I need to investigate this DSC Shock Controller.
One last question, if I do museum delivery, what are my best options on getting the tires replaced? Also, what about doing the clear bar or wrap on the vehicle?
(I will have a pickup where I can carry tires there and back)
It's makes no economic sense to spend the money for just the CCM's, when for a little bit more you can purchase the rest of the FE7 package. IF you ever were to take the car to it's natural habitat, the road course, the slightly increased spring rates and different MRC calibration, along with the 3rd stage aero, makes the car more stable and faster.
So do this:
Get the FE7 option;
Replace the MPSC2s with the MPSS's;
Drop the psi to 28 F & R;
Purchase and install the DSC V2 shock controller.
You will have an incredibly comfortable street car, that can tear it up on a road course whenever you're ready.
Bish
I agree 100% When I order mine (probably a 2018 at this point given the new paint shop/process) I'll get the Z07 because it is the value pkg... CC's alone is not a good value proposition.
One last question, if I do museum delivery, what are my best options on getting the tires replaced? Also, what about doing the clear bar or wrap on the vehicle?
(I will have a pickup where I can carry tires there and back)
It's going to take someone with connections to get that done in Bowling Green if you're looking to drive it home ! It has been said many times on this forum, when installing expel or a similar product, it's all about the guy doing it ! I'm a big expel guy-- same installer for the last six years. Has done six of my cars, and all of them , U can't tell it's on! Great product!
It's makes no economic sense to spend the money for just the CCM's, when for a little bit more you can purchase the rest of the FE7 package. IF you ever were to take the car to it's natural habitat, the road course, the slightly increased spring rates and different MRC calibration, along with the 3rd stage aero, makes the car more stable and faster.
So do this:
Get the FE7 option;
Replace the MPSC2s with the MPSS's;
Drop the psi to 28 F & R;
Purchase and install the DSC V2 shock controller.
You will have an incredibly comfortable street car, that can tear it up on a road course whenever you're ready.
Bish
I went with the z06 package and have the DSC controller and tractive shocks on the way. Get the ceramic brakes if you really want them and they will probably last forever on the street. If you actually track it the Ceramic brakes may not be the best option. I think the z06 with iron brakes and the complete DSC package will outperform the z07. You won't be saving any money going this route though.
After going back and forth, I am decided that I will go for the Z07 package. Thanks for all the comments. I need to investigate this DSC Shock Controller.
I went back and forth A LOT myself. I ended up buying my Z06 with the Z07 package and all of my concerns have been dispelled. I am comfortable in the car and love what the Z07 package ads to the overall appearance and "meaning" of the car.
One last question, if I do museum delivery, what are my best options on getting the tires replaced? Also, what about doing the clear bar or wrap on the vehicle?
(I will have a pickup where I can carry tires there and back)
I did semi-exactly (the wheels/tires issue) what you are suggesting. Bought my "street" wheels/tires from Daniel @ Finspeed. He and his lovely wife brought them to BG and installed them there. They shipped my stock MPSC2's and OEM wheels to my home in California. I installed the Novi Stretch mask, GM splash guards (found out later that the NCM would have installed them for me). Not a nick or chip in the return ride home. This photo was taken by Daniel at the COTA outside Austin, TX on our return trip home.(Z07 pkg)
Last edited by foreverfuelie; 03-27-2017 at 12:50 PM.
I am looking at ordering a new car. I am leaning toward getting the Z07 package only for the brakes. I am not real excited about the Cup 2 tires. As I understand, there are other differences in the suspension. Could someone please explain what the detailed differences the Z07 package brings to the vehicle.
Thanks!!
Sort of funny. The reason I didn't order the Z07 package is the CCBs don't compliment the way I use the car.
My car is only driven in the twisties out in the middle of nowhere or on the track. Myself, and many other "serious" track guys do not like CCBs for track work. The modulation on CCBs is not linear and just doesn't work well. I drove a C7Z car on track with SRF and the brake pedal went way long on me before I could even run 30 minutes.
The rotors are consumables and very expensive as are the pads. Same in the Porsche world. The first thing serious trackers do on a 911 P car with CCBs is take them off and install iron rotors.
Some state they want them for cosmetic purposes which is fine. I personally don't think they look as good as iron brakes.
The only positive performance aspect they offer is lower rotating mass. Not enough to offset the cons.
To each his own but if you're really going to exercise the car hard "most" don't want CCBs. If they were a no cost option on the car I would check the iron rotor brakes box....
I think my 1LZ Z06 with iron brakes will run with any Z07 package car on the track. I run Castro SRF and Raybestos ST43 pads. I installed Stage 3 aero bought from ACS except the spoiler which I bought OEM off eBay. Aftermarket dark tint wickerbill off eBay as well. Also running the DSC Sport shock controller which results in a better handling car than a Z07 car.
Rick
P.S. On second thought, if they were free I would take them. However, I'd remove them before driving the car and install iron then sell the CCBs.
^^^ Rikhek, you like the looks of iron rotors? Rusted hunks of metal behind the rims? Oh well...... I'm thrilled with the looks of the ccb rotors along with the street performance.
Last edited by Jus Cruisin; 03-27-2017 at 01:35 PM.
^^^ Rikhek, you like the looks of iron rotors? Rusted hunks of metal behind the rims? Oh well...... I'm thrilled with the looks of the ccb rotors along with the street performance.
FWIW, mine don't show any rust. I they did, one good brake application and it would be knocked off.
I drove the Z07 with MPSS tires at Spring Mountain and then drove my Z06 (non Z07) on track about 2 weeks later. I'm pretty in tune with feeling out a car and honestly with the same tires on both there were VERY minimal differences. The Z07 felt maybe 5% stiffer to me than my Z06. Braking felt the same; people go nuts over the carbon brakes but the standard Z06 brakes are absolutely amazing. And much cheaper to replace.
I wasn't running at 10/10 in either instance so I'm sure if I had driven to that level the differences would've been more noticeable, but I think the tires are the biggest noticeable difference with the 2 setups.
They are all setup at different heights from GM...there seems to be no spec for the suspension height / adjustment when leaving the factory. So yes and no...will depend on who adjusted your suspension on the line.
But you can't lower a Z07 suspension to anything close to the non-Z07. To do that, you need to spend some bug bucks. Non-Z07 suspension can be done on the stock bolts in about 90 minutes or less for all 4 corners...with no special tools.
My Z06 with the Z07 option ks/was sitting high from the factory. Probably the reason my taller tires have not caused any clearance / rubbing issues.
Just wondering if the Z07 suspension height will allow the front splitter to suffer less road rash in exiting my driveway to the street than the stock Z06 suspension.
I didn't want the front Z07 Aero winglets downforce pieces as I prefer the look in photo.
Ordered the ceramic brakes as I'll never have to replace them in my lifetime and they leave very little dust. I ordered the aero package to be installed by dealer which finishes out the rest of the Z07 rear aero enhancements.
I do like the lowering capability the Non-Z07 cars give you.
03-26-2017, 05:54 PM
This photo was taken by Daniel at the COTA outside Austin, TX on our return trip home.(Z07 pkg)
love every second I drive the car !!!
