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Old 10-13-2014, 12:54 AM
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Anyone import a vehicle from the US recently ( say last 3 months) and have any experience with US border services new rules. When I imported mine two years ago it was a breeze.........

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/loc...258064351.html


In particular this requirement from a potential US seller:

"....
A potential problem is that to complete the AES filing, the U.S. seller is required to have a federal tax identification number called an EIN. Private individuals in the U.S. might not have an EIN number but, under the new rule, the American seller will have to get one to comply with the AES filing.

That means taking the time to apply to the U.S. Internal Revenue Service, and some private sellers don't want to do that.

"What we're telling our customers is find out if the seller has or will get an EIN number. If the seller won't, don't buy or get your money back," Franzmann said
....."


I was considering a vehicle import but when I mentioned this EIN number requirment to the seller they talked to their beancounter and were advised NOT to get it. Thanks for any feedback.

Frank

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PM if youd like more info. Its fairly easy if you know what to you. Just need a broker who knows that they're doing. Don't attempt to do yourself, its fairly involved and not worth it. You'll need buyers tax id, address, etc ,etc. If bringing car over yourself you'll need all that info and how you paid for it. If having someone else bring it over you need all their info./
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Originally Posted by Northern Corvette
PM if youd like more info. Its fairly easy if you know what to you. Just need a broker who knows that they're doing. Don't attempt to do yourself, its fairly involved and not worth it. You'll need buyers tax id, address, etc ,etc. If bringing car over yourself you'll need all that info and how you paid for it. If having someone else bring it over you need all their info./
Do you mean SELLERS tax ID. I guess if the seller does'nt have it ( I'm guessing theis EIN tax number) or want to get it you're hooped per the article I sent.....correct?

Thanks for your response.........

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Just another way to discourage people from looking in the US for vehicles.
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Originally Posted by sami85L98
simple as that......sad, when i brought mine in 2007 it was breeze too, i guess no more.

Still i have hope some tricks will come out.
Not looking likely. You used to be able to come across Canadian side without doing the 72 hour thing and they usually didn't care. Now they go over all paperwork with fine tooth comb on BOTH sides of border before letting you import car. Its a big hassle, but looks like $50, which in the long run is pretty insignificant.
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If you can't do it yourself, like you could before, and have to use a broker, it's going to add a lot more than $50.00
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Originally Posted by hzz
If you can't do it yourself, like you could before, and have to use a broker, it's going to add a lot more than $50.00
I did 3 the other day. Broker charged $50 each for US side. You can still do Canadian side by yourself
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Originally Posted by Northern Corvette
I did 3 the other day. Broker charged $50 each for US side. You can still do Canadian side by yourself
but what if seller does'nt have or want to get their EIN tax number.....??

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Originally Posted by Northern Corvette
I did 3 the other day. Broker charged $50 each for US side. You can still do Canadian side by yourself
Can you tell me who you used please?
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Is this for new cars only or all imports no matter their age??
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Originally Posted by Kim72
Is this for new cars only or all imports no matter their age??
Age doesn't matter. I've brought in 1964 to 2008, all the same
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Originally Posted by nubrand
Can you tell me who you used please?
Send me a pm or email and I'll get there info from office Monday for you.
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Originally Posted by Northern Corvette
Send me a pm or email and I'll get there info from office Monday for you.
pm sent
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Buy vehicle in USA

Cross border with vehicle, title and proof that there are no outstanding recalls.

Pay duties and do export form only at border

Do RIV through website send them recall.

Safety

Register with completed safety, export form, RIV completed form

Vehicle on road within 24 hours registered if you are smooth.
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This is good for Canadian side, but you also have to do the USA part of things before entering Canada. Also when in Canada have to make sure vehicle conforms to all Canadian standards like daytime running lights etc.

Originally Posted by AllFlash
Buy vehicle in USA

Cross border with vehicle, title and proof that there are no outstanding recalls.

Pay duties and do export form only at border

Do RIV through website send them recall.

Safety

Register with completed safety, export form, RIV completed form

Vehicle on road within 24 hours registered if you are smooth.
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Originally Posted by AllFlash
Buy vehicle in USA

Cross border with vehicle, title and proof that there are no outstanding recalls.

Pay duties and do export form only at border

Do RIV through website send them recall.

Safety

Register with completed safety, export form, RIV completed form

Vehicle on road within 24 hours registered if you are smooth.
That's how it WAS and there are NO duties. I did it once and it was a breeze.

Originally Posted by Northern Corvette
This is good for Canadian side, but you also have to do the USA part of things before entering Canada. Also when in Canada have to make sure vehicle conforms to all Canadian standards like daytime running lights etc.
The running light stuff was a joke. Yes you needed it but when I went to Canadian Tire they were more interested in how nice the car looked. I just had the lites set to "on" and they passed.....lol

Now has anyone imported RECENTLY with US border services new rules per my questions in the first post.... IE the EIN number from a potential seller in the US.

thankyou for any help......
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I asked the same question in a different thread.






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Originally Posted by frankmp
That's how it WAS and there are NO duties. I did it once and it was a breeze.



The running light stuff was a joke. Yes you needed it but when I went to Canadian Tire they were more interested in how nice the car looked. I just had the lites set to "on" and they passed.....lol

Now has anyone imported RECENTLY with US border services new rules per my questions in the first post.... IE the EIN number from a potential seller in the US.

thankyou for any help......
By duties, I meant HST. I cannot speak to importing to the US but, as far as importing cars to Canada goes, people are making this process FAR to difficult. I have brought several over, most on weekends and I can have a vehicle on the road by the end of the business day Monday.

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Originally Posted by AllFlash
By duties, I meant HST. I cannot speak to importing to the US but, as far as importing cars to Canada goes, people are making this process FAR to difficult. I have brought several over, most on weekends and I can have a vehicle on the road by the end of the business day Monday.
Just curious....not to high jack this thread but did you stop and get clearance on the U.S. side first? I wasn't aware the U.S. offices were open on the weekend.
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Please do not follow that terrible advice. Usa offices are not open on weekend. If you do not stop and get everything stamped on the USA side, you risk fines and seizure and also risk the U.S. side denying any exports from you in the future. What used to happen before the laws officially came into effect last month isn't valid anymore. I've seen US customs agents chase down truck with trailer before they could cross and it wasn't good for them. Also unless you get extremely lucky the canadian side will not allow import without USA side stamp and approval.

Originally Posted by Norm07
Just curious....not to high jack this thread but did you stop and get clearance on the U.S. side first? I wasn't aware the U.S. offices were open on the weekend.


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